test-drb October 2001

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New aquisitions: PCjr (minus power supply) and Amstrad PC 6400

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

The IBM PS/1 models 2011 and 2121 both use the same monitor with power supply inside. I get several emails from people that buy the CPU but didnt get the display with it. PCjr power supplies show up every once in a while around here, especially at hamfests. In fact, I bought a jr a few months back with a second story floppy drive that connects to the main unit. I'd like to hook up my PCjr hard drive to it also. In a message dated 10/17/2001 11:43:23 AM Central Daylight Time, lgwalker(a)mts.net writes: << The 1640 reminds me of the IBM 2011 with the power supply in the monitor unit. There was an informative thread a while back on the mail list in the spring of 1999 regarding the 1640. I have one but alas no K-B. I did win one on e-bay but was never able to get a reply from the seller. I also have a PCjr and like you don't have the PSU. They come up on e-pay occasionally but either I haven't had the money at that time or else the seller wouldn't ship to Canada. I have managed to acquire some manuals for it, including the IBM one, however, as well as some cartridges but they are buried somewhere among my stuff which is still in disarray due to my move this summer. When I run across them I'll let you know. Lawrence > Went to a new thrift store this week. Ended up with way more stuff > than I expected to. The big items were a complete Amstrad PC 6400 > (8-bit PC clone, dual half-height floppies, 3 ISA slots, proprietary > monitor that powers the base through a monster DIN connector, > proprietary keyboard with 9-pin joystick connector) and a nearly complete > PCjr w/128K and parallel port sidecars (got non-chicklet keyboard w/cable > and CPU, but no PSU). How much should a PCjr PSU run me? What cartridges > were there for it? The company I used to write kids games for (Software > Productions - makers of "Alphabet Beasts and Company, Micro Mother Goose, > Micro Habitats, etc.) did support it, but I was the C-64 dude, not the > PeeCee dude. (ob digression: when the company closed, we _did_ hold the > door open with the PCjr - it really was a doorstop ;-) > > The scary part is that the Amstrad was about triple the cost of the Peanut > (~$6 (after markdown from $11) vs ~$2). I guess size does matter. > > So far in my digging, I've found that the Amstrad PC 6400 is the > American name for the Amstrad PC 1640, and I found a good Amstrad > resource at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/index.htm > Any other good tips? > > -ethan > >>

23 years, 6 months

Hard Card (was Re: IIgs using hard disk 20)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> Could it have Been a Plus Systems HardCard? I know that they did a PC > hardcard, I don't know about an apple II version... they were acquired? by > quantum many years ago I just dug out my 2 "hard drive on a card" units (not to be confused with a "hot dog on a stick"). One is a Plus Hardcard (says so right on it), I have NO idea what kind of a drive is connected to it (4 small ribbon cables marked R/W, Encoder, Motor, Rotor... don't know what kind of drive connects that way), nor do I know anything about the size (40mb?, see below) or setup of the drive. But the specs may be available on Quantum's (well, now Maxtor's) web site... I do know I have seen Hardcard info there before. The other one doesn't have a name per se on in. The physical drive is marked Kalok, Octagon Disk Drive by the Kalok Corporation. Model# KL330. However, I think that might just be the OEM drive the unit manufacturer used. It looks like maybe an MFM drive (2 card edge connectors that look like 5.25 drive connectors). On the back of the unit is a sticker marked Part#: (blank), Model#: CARD30R, Serial# 9790, Date: 1/90. If the date is right, then this thing is WAY newer than I thought it was. At one point I must have had some specs on it, as I have penned onto the drive the setup of it (616c, 4h, 26s, 32mb). I flipped thru my binders of tech notes, and I didn't find anything on the Kalok drive, but I found a page of notes on the Plus hardcard... tells me how to change the IO and IRQ settings, as well as how to repartition it as one drive. Seems it comes as 2-20mb drives, but needs a device driver to work, repartitioning it as one 40mb allows it to work under DOS 6.22 without drivers. I don't think I have the drivers, and I don't think this is originally my page (it is dot matrix printed and that doesn't jive with the rest of my notes), so my guess is, I found it in a closet somewhere and clipped in into my binder. Well... hopefully some of you cared about all that... if so, there is a picture of the two drives at <http://www.mythtech.net/hardcard.jpg>. If not... sorry to waste the bandwidth. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 6 months

IIgs using hard disk 20

by lgwalker＠mts.net

This didn't seem to get thru last time. Sorry if it's a duplicate post. L. Here's some gleanings from my database of a2gs inf. I believe it was supplied by Supertimer on the csa2 newsgroup. --------------------------------------------------------------------- There are two things you need to do to get the IIGS usable. First, get a hard drive for it. http://www.allelec.com/ Alltech Electronics sells an internal hard drive for the IIGS that is a hard drive on a card. No extra controller needed. It is an IDE controller plus notebook mechanism. It costs $59. For that price, you also get the most modern Apple IIGS System Software, GS/OS (System 6.0.1), which is normally on six separate floppy disks (a hard drive is needed to get the most out of it). You also get tons of freewares and sharewares. The hard drive is called the Focus hard drive card. Look for it on the Alltech site. The other thing is memory. Alltech (see above for web site) also sells the Sirius RAM card. They are revising their web site, so this product may not yet be on there, but just call them and ask. It is a 0-8MB memory card that can be expanded in 1MB increments using 1MB 30 pin SIMMs. I'm sure you have an old 386 lying around that you can gut. Only the IIGS can run a graphical OS somewhat similar to MacOS. The IIGS' OS can, with the proper software, generate printed pages on high resolution ink-jet printers and laser printers with TrueType fonts, an Apple (same as Mac) style GUI, and the use of the same keyboards and mice as the Mac (in fact, ADB was first used in the IIGS before being used on Macs...pre-GS Macs used "telephone" style keyboard cables). The IIGS has built in support for 15Khz analog RGB color. The IIGS itself has a 4096 color palette and is capable of theoretically throwing up to 3200 of those on screen at once. The monitor the IIGS uses will also work on the Amiga and Atari ST and their monitors will work on the IIGS. some URLS http://www.allelec.com/ http://www.sequential.com/ Sequential Systems. http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/ I believe the A2 FAQ by Rubywand and a bunch of other stuff is still on this site or you can find it regularly on the csa2 n-g. There used to be older FAQ by one Nathan Mates a notorious csa2 flamer who, in a snit, removed it from circulation. If you contact me off-list I MIGHT be able to tell you what was in it. Since I've had an A-gs monitor for years and by the Law of Affinity knew that a GS would eventually find it's way to me (thanks Rich) I've kept this info and even the GS manual. Lawrence SNIP > I was hoping maybe they used the same ports, and I might be able to use > the HD 20 with my IIgs so I can add a hard drive to it. > > Anyone info would be great. > > > > -chris > > <http://www.mythtech.net> > ------- End of forwarded message ------- Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net

23 years, 6 months

Toshiba T300 - last call, Toronto area

by mhstein＠usa.net

One gone, one awaiting its fate: T300 dual floppy PC semi-compatible, no monitor (but std RGB OK), spare KB, 2 sets of 3 manuals, 123 & dBII, diskettes & some tech info; also service info & schematics for T100. Good for converting 360 to/from 600 Kb diskettes. Headed for landfill if no interest. mike

23 years, 6 months

IIgs using hard disk 20

by mythtech＠Mac.com

Does anyone know if an Apple IIgs can use an old Macintosh Hard Disk 20. The Mac HD is NOT scsi, but rather uses the disk drive port on a Mac. It was designed to work with older non scsi macs (128k 512k), and could be daisy chained thru the disk drive ports (at one point, I think I had 3 HD 20s and a 400k drive connected to my 128k Mac). The IIgs has a disk drive port, and visually, the 3.5" drive I have for it looks just like the 3.5" drive I have off an old Mac Classic (I have to go off visual, as the one from the Classic has no labels or other markers beyond the apple logo... don't know why, that is the way it was when it was given to me). I was hoping maybe they used the same ports, and I might be able to use the HD 20 with my IIgs so I can add a hard drive to it. Anyone info would be great. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 6 months

Available in NJ: BYTE magazines, 1982 and 1983 complete

by ysgdhio＠yahoo.com

In the process of reclaiming basement space for other hobbies, I have unearthed a box containing two complete years of BYTE magazines, specifically 1982 and 1983. They are in very nice condition. If you want them, please reply to me directly to arrange pickup in central New Jersey, just off the Garden State Parkway. At a later date, I might also be uncovering at least one complete Sony SMC-70 (CP/M) system, perhaps up to two more system units and a number of add-on cards. These probably won't be free, but certainly not eBay prices. (I'd work a trade, but I really really need the space) Again, reply directly if you'd be interested. Thanks.

23 years, 6 months

looking for documentation for 1963 minuteman missile computer

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On October 17, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Two stage weapons physics is really weird. The first time I read > > the phrase "photon gas" my head spun. > > Photon gas. Say WHAT? :) I get that when I eat too much Mexican food. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

23 years, 6 months

Blame Microsoft! (in bad taste)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Speaking of bad taste, > Did anyone notice that there was a picture of the WTC > expolsions published in 'Wired' before the 11th? > (apologies in advance) Fact. The October issue has > no Written reference to the event because it was obv. > made before 11-Sep. However, on p.170 there is a > very realic picture from an ultrabad taste (now) > CD called Party Music of The Coup. where the artwork > depicts two tower explosions. > > So... blame Wired? Blame 'Wired' for the cover design of The Coup's album? -dq

23 years, 6 months

Epson Equity LT-286 setup

by mouch＠imv.au.dk

Hi I just got a Epson Equity LT - 286 but I need the setup disk and cant find on Epson site - can you help me ? please

23 years, 6 months

Blame Microsoft! (in bad taste)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Where did the idea come from? One way or another, we always knew that > there would be a way to blame Microsoft. > > > At Foothill, along with some other stuff, I got a 1988 copy of Microsoft > Flight Simulator. The picture on the box is very stylized view of a > [small] jet flying in front of WTC! The text on the back of the box goes > on to suggest trying to fly your plane between the towers (they missed?) Until just recently, either in the sim docs, or on the web page associated with the sim, there is a table of famous landmarks by GPS coordinates, in case you want to fly into one of them. WTC is at the top of the list. -dq

23 years, 6 months

Redactron WP

by CAA007216＠mail.ono.es

Ahem... What is this thing ? :-) Sergio ----- Mensaje Original ----- Remitente: M H Stein <mhstein(a)usa.net> Fecha: Mi?rcoles, Octubre 17, 2001 8:42 am Asunto: Redactron WP > Redactron dual mag card WP (with one card), schematic, no printer. > Can I assume there's no interest and I can finally toss something > without feeling guilty? > > mike >

23 years, 6 months

looking for documentation for 1963 minuteman missile computer

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I'm looking for documentation for a 1963 minuteman missile navigation > > computer. Any leads would be appreciated. > > > *spits coffee on monitor* > > You're kidding, right? I saw one sold on E-Bay a year or so ago, there must be gobs of them in the surplus/salvage channels... Let's hope they're all bought up by domestic hobbyists... ;-) -dq

23 years, 6 months

Redactron WP

by spedraja＠ono.com

>Right you are, Don; later became Burroughs. Picture at: >http://communities.msn.com/TeachingComputerUseandProgramming/teaching.msnw? action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9 > >And another buenas dias, Sergio, but even without the printer I don't think you'd want to ship this baby to Spain... I see it. Oh, my God !! Regards Sergio

23 years, 6 months

epson Q150A , i need a hard disk :)

by mouch＠imv.au.dk

Hi I am Danish Ive got a epson portable Q150A just like you. the former owner had delted the BIOS, so I whanted to know if the floppies you got is the BIOS or diagnostic software ? - and if it is meybe i could get a copy The Harddisk in my coomputer is a: JVC HARD DISK DRIVE MODEL JD3824R00-1 20MB my regards Jonas MIkkelsen

23 years, 6 months

HP-UX items

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Everything except the CORE INSTALL. SteveRob >From: Bob Brown <bbrown(a)harper.cc.il.us> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: HP-UX items >Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:10:32 -0500 > >Looks like enough for someone wanting to run hpux 10.20 on a server (not >w/s) >box to get started! > >-Bob > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

23 years, 6 months

SCSI problems

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I have been using one since I got it new @ $200. Great card. They > should be <$25 now. I see them all the time at the Dayton > ComputerFest. Picked up a 1542CF almost two years ago at a MarketPro show for $19.95. -dq

23 years, 6 months

IIgs using hard disk 20

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 10/17/2001 5:10:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, geoffr(a)zipcon.net writes: << Could it have Been a Plus Systems HardCard? I know that they did a PC hardcard, I don't know about an apple II version... they were acquired? by quantum many years ago >> Applied Engineering had an internal hard drive for the GS. I forgot what it was called though.

23 years, 6 months

IIgs using hard disk 20

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > Anyone know where I can get one of these tiny adapters? > > Doug, what size was the OMTI bridge controller? I have several of the > 3.5" form factor. If that size, do you have the model number? Yeah, they're 3.5 inch format, ISTR it had a Z-80 controller... 50-pin ribbon cable header at one end, one 34-pin control header and two 20-pin data headers at the other... I'll check the model number tonight, and get back to you tomorrow. -dq

23 years, 6 months

looking for documentation for 1963 minuteman missile compute r

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Kryten is correct and it was a cleaning robot. I happen to > have two of the 'Red Dwarf' series books here. 'Red Dwarf: Better > Than Life' is one of my favorite sci-fi books, alongside '2001' and > Heinlein's 'Friday' and 'Have Spacesuit, Will Travel'. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Awesome book; the ever-present terminals in this future provide functions much like the Web does today. Quite visionary. I also think his vision of a fragmented United States will come to pass (many are ready for The Republic of California, but I dread the Midwest Kingdom). -dq

23 years, 6 months

Toshiba T300 - last call, Toronto area

by CAA007216＠mail.ono.es

Hello, Mike. I'm interested about the software, mainly. If the CPU is not heavy it could be send by mail, I think. Thanks ! Sergio Pedraja Santander Spain ----- Mensaje Original ----- Remitente: M H Stein <mhstein(a)usa.net> Fecha: Mi?rcoles, Octubre 17, 2001 8:40 am Asunto: Toshiba T300 - last call, Toronto area > One gone, one awaiting its fate: T300 dual floppy PC semi- > compatible, no monitor (but std RGB OK), spare KB, 2 sets of 3 > manuals, 123 & dBII, diskettes & some tech info; also service info > & schematics for T100. Good for converting 360 to/from 600 Kb > diskettes. > Headed for landfill if no interest. > > mike >

23 years, 6 months

Looking for TC01 drawings/manual

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Can anyone point me to a scan of the DEC TC01 tape > controller? This is the > early dectape controller used with very early PDP8 machines at least. There is a maintenance manual here: http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/dec/pdp8/ And docs for a TC01 exerciser are here: http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8docs/maindec-08-ditca-a-d.tif Antonio

23 years, 6 months

Redactron WP

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Redactron dual mag card WP (with one card), schematic, no > printer. Can I assume there's no interest and I can finally > toss something without feeling guilty? and >One gone, one awaiting its fate: T300 dual floppy PC semi-compatible, no monitor (but std >RGB OK), spare KB, 2 sets of 3 manuals, 123 & dBII, diskettes & some tech info; also >service info & schematics for T100. Good for converting 360 to/from 600 Kb diskettes. Hi, If there are no other (or nearer) takers for these items, could I have the tech manuals and schematics (and maybe diskettes?). I'll scan them if there is sufficient interest. Obviously I'll pay for shipping (surface mail). I'm in the UK otherwise I'd be interested in the hw too! Thanks Antonio carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org

23 years, 6 months

Looking for TC01 drawings/manual

by kevin＠xpuppy.freeserve.co.uk

Can anyone point me to a scan of the DEC TC01 tape controller? This is the early dectape controller used with very early PDP8 machines at least. Kevin Murrell -------------

23 years, 6 months

Dark Tower - any internals info out there?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> I am pretty sure TI published a datasheet on the chip. It > gave at least > the pinout and the pin functions, it may have included the > instruction > set. I may hae some data on the chip in old TI databooks, I can check. The only reference within TI's own site (that I can find) is that the chip debuted in 1974. freetradezone has a two page sheet which has little technical information. It does say that software simulators were available for customer use as were hardware simulators. Antonio

23 years, 6 months

IIgs using hard disk 20

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I have a card in my 512 which increases memory and gives a SCSI port. > It's called a MacSnap by Dove computer, dated 1985. It actually consists of > 2 cards. One contains the memory chips aand circuitry and the other has > the SCSI socket and also 2 large chips labelled upper and lower ROMs. I'm > even able to boot off the external HDD. Great product, I used mine with a Cutting Edge 30MB external drive until the drive's piggyback OMTI SCSI <=> MFM adapter went south. Anyone know where I can get one of these tiny adapters? -dq

23 years, 6 months

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