>> On the other hand, who knowsif history had been different, perhaps
>> Apple and Microsoft would have gone away, Linux and other free UNICEs
>> would never have come into existence, and most of us would now be
>> using MP/M-IX with a GUI, many security features and long upper-case
>> filenames, using 64-bit 300MHz CPUs descended from the Z80.
I. The Pentium is related to the z80 by way of the 8088 based on the
8080!
II. Before DOS there were people developing OSs, Flex, Unix, OS/9,
NS*dos,
And an assortment of CP/M clones.
III. There were 16 bit decendants of 6502, they had potential.
Allison
FWIW:
Last weekend, Staples had an ad in the local paper for a 20Gb drive for
$99 and they'd give you a free 32 Mb SIMM with it. I bought one of the
drives (a Maxtor 32047) and just finished installing it in my daughter's
Pentium II box that's running WinBlows 98. The software that came with the
drive copied everything (about 17 Gb of files) from the old drive to the
new one with no difficulties in about an hour. The only problem that I had
was that the copy program wouldn't work with both drives on the primary
disk controller channel. I had to put one on the secondary channel and one
of the primary. After it finished copying, I removed the old drive and
installed the new one in it's place, reconnected the two CD drives to the
secondary channel and rebooted the machine with NO changes or problems.
Joe
>It uses the serial port. I seem to remember utilities for
>the PC that pretend to be a disk drive for an M100 in this
>fashion, as well as tools that would let the drive connect
>to the PC. I think the drive came with a disk containing
>a utility or two.
TS-DOS, available from Club 100, can be either disk or ROM based.
Desklink, available on the Club 100 web site as 'DL-ARC.EXE', also includes
limited RAM based versions that can be transferred to the 100/102 using a
null modem cable. The Desklink archive is what I use to turn my 486 laptop
or Mac clone into a fileserver for my Model 102. Once you use Desklink to
transfer the RAM-based TS-DOS loader into the 100/102, you should then be
able to access the portable disk drive.
Jeff
--- Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> >I've got an Amiga external SCSI drive made by Tecmar that has a 37-pin
> >connector...
> Is this the Tecmar T-disk? I've got a 20meg version and it
> requires a sidecar for the A1000, which also provides a 1meg memory
> expansion.
That's the one.
> It has it's own CPU that branches off to both the sidecar
> and the disk drive and there are a number of files that have to be
> added to the A1000's Workbench disk in order to access it. It won't
> boot from the Tecmar.
That was absolutely typical of Amiga 1000 disk interfaces. I had a "WEDGE"
for a long time - an 8-bit ISA adapter that came with drivers for the Western
Digital WX-1 interface. It was replaced with a Microbotics StarBoard - mine
was fully loaded - clock, 2Mb RAM and SCSI (the "StarDrive"). I was able
to go from two ST225 drives (40Mb) to one Maxtor LXT213S (200Mb drive from a
SPARCstation) with that upgrade. Between the two interfaces, I was set from
about 1987 until I replaced the A1000 with an A3000 in 1993 (it lasted until
I brought an A4000 home with me from N.Z. after replacing the 220/50Hz PSU
with the guts from a PC PSU, around 1996)
I still have my premiere copy of _Amiga World_ that has the T-Drive and the
rest of the peripherals advertised *months* before they were ready to ship.
They were billed as the first Amiga hard disks, but ISTR they took so long
to finalize their product that there were several offerings out there when
you could _finally_ buy one. Infamous vaporware in the early Amiga days.
-ethan
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In a message dated Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:19:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> writes:
<<
I've got one. I was so cool in 1987 or so, carrying the
M100 and a disk drive, writing articles on airplanes.
I even remember using CompuServe via the M100.
It uses the serial port. I seem to remember utilities for
the PC that pretend to be a disk drive for an M100 in this
fashion, as well as tools that would let the drive connect
to the PC. I think the drive came with a disk containing
a utility or two.
- John
>>
Wish I did! I just got my first M100 this week! Picked up a 32k m100 in pristine condition with the manual (no case or drives though) for $10. 4 AA bateries later and it was running great. Have to say these are really cool little computers!
-Linc Fessenden.
I remember reading somewhere that Gates' last real project was the BASIC in
the Radio Shack Model 100 (1983??)
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From: THETechnoid(a)home.com [mailto:THETechnoid@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:41 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Interact (was Death by Poking)
Thanks! Bill talks kind of like Tonto.
I've never really known what Gate's personal contribution to coding has
been. Did he write on Mbasic, Msdos, or any of the Windos's?
When did he quit coding?
Regards,
Jeff
In <200101181442.GAA10586(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu>, on 01/18/01
at 10:40 AM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu> said:
>http://www.tcp.com/%7elgreenf/bill.htm
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> In <8763AE987517D2118C0500A0C9AB234C509D72@TEGNTSERVER>, on 01/17/01
> at 04:54 PM, Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com>
> said:
>
> Yea! Object Desktop is GOD'S OWN TOY. I love it! They ported it to
> Windos, but it caused lots of stability problems. The OS/2 version runs
> beautifully and I've been addicted to it for years.
I have to agree with the others in this thread... Windows is inherently
not stable, while OS/2 is.... thus Object Desktop on Windows doesn't
CAUSE instability, it merely illuminates it. I am biased, however, as
I'm a Stardock Avatar.
> My favorite component is the virtual desktop feature. I couldn't live
> without it.
>
> The Windows version is a program. The OS/2 version is not. It is a
> collection of Workplace Shell objects simply taking advantage of the OS/2
> Gui's object inheritance and polymorphism. Pretty darn impressive.
True, Windows doesn't provide the underpinnings to do what was possible
under OS/2.
My two most-used features are ObjectDrivescan and ObjectEdit; however,
I really do love the eye candy (Windowblinds, WindowFX, DesktopX, and
ObjectBar).
Regards,
-dq
--- THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
> In <3.0.5.32.20010117183929.007bf6f0(a)yellow.ucdavis.edu>, on 01/17/01
> at 10:18 PM, "Edwin P. Groot" <epgroot(a)ucdavis.edu> said:
>
> > 37 pins? What an oddball number. I have seen floppy cables with 50,
> >34 or 20 pins. 5-1/4" MFM hard drives have 34 pin plus 20 pin. SCSI hard
> >drives have 50 pins.
I've got an Amiga external SCSI drive made by Tecmar that has a 37-pin
connector. Don't have the interface to go with it, though. It's a
modular extruded aluminum case (like some modems) with a 3.5" MFM drive
inside and some flavor of SCSI<->MFM bridge card to do the dirty work.
Mine came from university surplus, so I have never seen it operate, FWIW.
-ethan
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At 11:09 PM 1/17/01 -0700, Bill wrote:
>Sounds about like a first generation DC-9 revving up for roll out?
Yup.
>I've had very good luck shutting up XT2190's and RD54's simply by turning
>them upside-down. In my particular set up (old pee cee cases) they also
>run _much_ cooler. That might present mounting and cabling
>complications in your situation. YMMV.
Actually this is a VAXStation 2000 so turning it upside isn't a problem
(nothing else cares about orientation) but alas it did not noticeably
change the whine.
I'm really torn by this little machine. On the one hand I sort of swore off
MFM drive based systems and was sticking to Q-bus based VAXen in the
collection, but now with the VS2000 I've got a bunch of the workstation
versions as well (KA41 - KA49). Fortunately for me the desktop VAXes take
up _much_ less room than the deskside variety, also the drive has Ultrix32
on it and its my only Ultrix based VAX (I've got Ultrix media for MIPS but
not for VAX). I'm guessing that if I moved the jumper back I'd see it has
some sort of frame buffer as well, perhaps it would bring up X even.
--Chuck
From: Doug Stalker (doug(a)notme.com)
Date: 07/21/99-11:37:42 PM Z
Reply:
Maybe This Applies...............
HDS 7 setup access is bottom row of num. pad.
- CTRL-, (comma) Setup
left hand corner (gray key)
- CTRL-. (period)Test Loop
bottom row
- CTRL- - (minus) Screen Test
right hand corner
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