test-drb January 2001

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181 participants
415 discussions

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

At least in the UK anyway. The recent flurry of DECUS complaints on here made me wonder what had happened to my own membership - sure enough it expired last month so they're wanting another 25 english pounds off me. Thing is, is it still worth it to be a member? I haven't been to the seminars etc for *years* and don't have a requirement for hobbyist kits or anything like that...... thoughts? -- Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP C CAT Limited Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home) <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum) 0/0

23 years

ldb4401 can be replaced by .....?

by General＠cyber.net.pk

dear sir please address the issue regards nasir

23 years, 1 month

Who collects (reads the mailing list...?) vintage computers in Quebec

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

Claude <claudew(a)sprint.ca> wrote: > Sometimes I think I may be the only vintage computer collector in > Quebec, Canada. Look on the bright side, at least the competition is slim. Some guy here locally had overheard me talking to someone else about a stash I knew of and had already contacted the organization. He went there pretending to be me and made arrangements to haul some stuff off. By coincidence I called the place later the same day as his initial visit. My contact was all confused until she realized that she was being duped by this person. I ended up telling her to let him have the first stash (old intel boxes) to which she replied she would and save the other (and better) stash for me. She let him load the junk and then gave him a piece of her mind and sent him packing. In a sense he did me a favor, saved me from having to haul the junk along with the good stuff. > When I mention I collect vintage computers, people look at me like I am > due for a trip in the "wacko wagon"... Hey, they thought the same thing of the dude who collected bottlecaps, now they wished they had picked them up off the ground themselves. > Those who feel sad for me can send me their Lisa's, TRS model IIIs and > Next boxes ;-> NeXT: You want Cube or Slab, Plain or Turbo? Mike

23 years, 2 months

storage media

by Scott.Miller＠vandenberg.af.mil

I was thinking about the possibility of building a miniature C-64... you could probably squeeze the whole thing into an FPGA, but the VIC II and SID chips might be a problem. It'd probably be easier to use an off the shelf embedded controler and adapt the VICE emulator. A 2 or 3 inch color LCD would make a nice monitor, but fabricating the miniature keyboard could be difficult. You could always use a cheap membrane-style keyboard, I guess. How about a 1541 disk drive that takes smartmedia cards? Speaking of VICE, in a fit of boredom I set up an AlphaStation with VNC to launch remote C-64 emulation sessions, sort of a C-64 ASP. You just fire up your VNC client, point it at the server, and you get an emulated C-64 with a bunch of old game disks. I haven't had it running since I moved over the summer, but if anyone's interested I can fire it up and publish the address. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Megan [mailto:mbg@world.std.com] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:52 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: storage media >"IBM used to send out its salesmen with little 1/24 > models of their Mainframe installations to do site > planning on the desktop first before bringing in the > actual HW. With Moore's Law and the progress of > miniaturization, you could Build a system that big > now that actually works." > >Only with more power. Imagine putting together a little model of, say, the PDP-10 system on the back cover of one of the PDP-10 reference manuals, but build an imbedded x86 machine into the model, with one serial line... run linux on the the embedded machine and Timothy Stark's pdp-10 emulator running TOPS-10... :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 3 months

Moving data to an Apple II

by eweidenh1＠hotmail.com

I have two apple II computers, a IIgs (Rom 0- no operating system)and an Apple IIc. Both have floppies and both have the latest 8 bit apple DOS. Neither have modems or any communication software. I am trying to get software from my PC to the apples using a Mac Classic II as a bridge. I can get Shrinkit and BinCSII to work on the apples but I need .txt files to work with. Unfortunately, somewhere between the PC and the apples, the resource fork designating the file type gets garbled so BinSCII can't recognise the .txt files. Does anybody know where I can find a Macintosh image file of an Apple II disk with Fazz or another attribute changer on it? Does anyone know of another way to get files onto the Apples with the tools I have? Also, where can I find a copy of an early OS for a Rom 0 IIgs? Thanks all, Erich _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 3 months

First computer singing

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 19, 23:18, Sellam Ismail wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, John Foust wrote: > > > Some .ram files merely reference an .rm file via http://, > > such as a .ram that contains: > > > > http://streams2.vortex.com/rmf/daisy.rm > > > > which would allow you to just enter that URL directly, > > or save-as, and then you'd have the .rm file. > > Sheer genius. But it didn't work :( I used the audio hardware on one of my SGI machines to snarf the stream as it played and uploaded it to http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/temp/daisy.wav for you (about 3MB). I was intrigued by the recording, and I knew I'd seen a reference somewhere else, so I spent a while hunting for more information. Interestingly, the first reference I found was in the classiccmp archives, from two years ago! But the following may be of interest: http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/INST/mar98/histquiz.html (a little background) http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/20001109_Musical_main… (several recent informative Usenet posts) http://korova.com/kmr98/kmr8002.htm (near the bottom, explains that "Daisy" was useful because it contains all the notes in an octave) http://www.mindspring.com/~dmaxey/ssshp/ss_btl1.htm (relevant published papers and archive tapes at BTL, including the one from which "Daisy" is taken) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

23 years, 4 months

$3551 Sol???

by bills＠adrenaline.com

Ok, I'm stumped. I bought a Sol on ebay back in September for $385.16 including shipping and insurance. I think the one I got is in better shape and it has a lower serial number. Why did this one go for so much? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201894666&ed=9771987 70 Bill

23 years, 4 months

Searching for PS/2-E (9533-DB7) reference diskette

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

I know it's not _quite_ 10 years old, but it's getting there. The principle of attraction has worked and my IBM quad-PCMCIA card has attracted a couple of hosts - a PS/2-E that it originally came out of. I have been to the IBM support site - no concrete references to the PS-2/E. I have located reference diskettes for all sorts of IBM-brand products, but not the 9533. It's distinguishing features include a low-power design with one ISA slot for this quad-PCMCIA card to minimize peripheral draw. Additionally, it uses a 2.5" laptop disk (120Mb) and only has one serial port. As shipped from IBM, there was an LCD panel for a monitor, but I've never seen that part in person, only in old ads. Does anyone have a disk image they can ship me, or a pointer to an image somewhere? I'm thinking of turning this into a router box. I have the PCMCIA NICs to do it with. Thanks, -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

23 years, 4 months

Dayton Hamvention?

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

I had meant to put this up earlier this month, but better late than never. Is anyone here planning on being at the Dayton Hamvention? It is this weekend (I'll be there Friday at 08:00 if I can help it). If yes, please write me off-line and maybe we can make arrangements to have a classiccmp get-together. My memories of this question from last year was a collective and deafening "No". -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

23 years, 4 months

Old SGI's?!

by LFessen106＠aol.com

Can anyone on the list help me out with my SGI's? I made a trade a trade for 2 Personal Iris 4D/35's. Cool lookin' computers, however, I have a few problems..... Neither one has a KB, Mouse or Monitor, and although a decent SVGA works fine, I can't for the life of me find the KB/Mouse for these anywhere (they have the ps2 style connector, but are *not* ps2 compatable). After hooking them up to a Dumb Terminal I find that they both work (at least up to the prom) and 1 actually will boot into Irix 4.0.2... The other has no detectable OS. The one that *does* boot to Irix has a root password that I don't have (of course). Is there any way to gain root access on that machine other than removing the drive and mounting it on another box to change the passwd / crack it? After I do actually get the one box running can I somehow transfer the OS >from one to the other? I read somewhere there was a prom command to duplicate hard drives??? Is there someone on the list willing to part with an old copy of Irix? These machines will only run up to 5.0.3 I think.. Anyone have a spare KB/Mouse for these machines? I can run them (when I get them working) from a Dumb Terminal, but would rather experience the famous SGI GUI. Any other hints / tips / suggestions would be greatly appreciated! -Linc F.

23 years, 4 months

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test-drb January 2001