test-drb January 2001

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181 participants
415 discussions

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Iggy Drougge <optimus(a)canit.se> >ajp166 skrev: > >>Also for those that dont know or havent tried, the image the mop loader >>sends >>out does nto have to be VMS. We used it for ELN and other toys at DEC. > >ELN? ELN was a real time framweork for stand alone applications that was somewhat compatable with VMS filesystem. MDM {microvax diagnostic monitor} is written on the ELN framework. Allison

25 years, 4 months

Tektronix 4051 for sale on E-bay.

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

"http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1208941360"

25 years, 4 months

VAX-11/780 boot disk

by cfandt＠netsync.net

Upon the date 11:37 AM 1/23/01 -0600, Richard W. Schauer said something like: >Hi everybody- > >I just recently acquired a whole bunch of stuff out of a company's >basement, including a VAX-11/780, VAX-11/750, 4 RA81's, a TU80, a <snip> Nice basement! What a great haul Richard! >phase on it. I figure this would about balance the draw at 40 amps, 220 >volts, which isn't too unreasonable. Not if you live in California nowadays! :-) Have fun with all of it! That's what can be great about our hobby (a.k.a. affliction) ;-) -Chris -- -- Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

25 years, 4 months

Sun monitor cables

by alex＠linuxhacker.org

Hi, does anyone know where I can get hold of Sun monitor cables (ideally in the UK)? I have four SS2 pizza boxes, an IPX, monitors, keyboards, mice, and lots of external drives, but no monitor cables! I did get one of them running after wiring the monitor with individual soldered wires from connector to connector, and I have also had a couple of them running over a serial console, but I'd like to get some proper monitor leads so that I can set them up and sell them as full systems (I want to keep one for my collection, but the rest are just taking up space that could be used for other junk, er, classic hardware). They use 13W3 D type connectors, and I did actually manage to get hold of the connector shells from Farnell, but they don't seem to be able to get hold of the signal pins for them. Also, about half of the external SCSI boxes use a weird oversized-D SCSI connector (I think it might be an early SCSI 1 format) that I haven't been able to find cables for either. I'm not as bothered about those, but if anybody knows where I can find them (and adapters to SCSI2, which is what all the controllers use) cheaply, that would be cool too. -- ------- Alex Holden ------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ http://www.robogeeks.org/

25 years, 4 months

VAX 4000/200

by joseph.gaspard＠gensiasicor.com

I am actively looking for a working DEC VAX 4000/200 with Open VMS, drives, SCSI capable and in good repair. It will be used to support an existing VAX in our system. If anyone has one or can tell me where to find one, I would appreciate it very much. Joseph Gaspard Senior Systems Engineer GensiaSicor Pharmaceuticals Irvine, California.

25 years, 4 months

VAX-11/780 boot disk

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 23, Richard W. Schauer wrote: > I just recently acquired a whole bunch of stuff out of a company's > basement, including a VAX-11/780, VAX-11/750, 4 RA81's, a TU80, a > pdp-11/44, 4 RL02's, an RP06, a TS11, and spare parts and printsets > galore. (Yes, John Foust, the little pdp-11/44 in Milwaukee led to all > that.) All the equipment was brought up a flight of carpeted stairs by a > refrigerator dolly and human power, except the RP06 and the 780 where we > used a come-along and a lifting frame I made. Heavy! Wow...that's an excellent haul! -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

applicationDEC 433MP

by gregorym＠cadvision.com

I spent an enjoyable weekend dissassembling, cleaning, and re-assembling a 433MP (introduced 1990, so just on-topic). It came from an industrial environment, and was one of the filthiest computers I've ever seen. I didn't get any manuals, and there's very little info about these machines on the Web (Compaq, as usual, pretends these machines never existed), so I was hoping one of list DECkers could help with a few questions: - the machine has 2 memory boards, which give a maximum of 32 megs of ECC RAM, with 40 x 1 meg SIMMs. Can the system use more than 2 memory boards, to go to 64 megs? Or can the 1 meg SIMMs be replaced by 4 meg SIMMs? - on powerup, the system BIOS reports 640K of main memory, and 13312K of extended memory; there are 25 x 1 meg SIMMs installed, so I'm expecting 20 megs after subtracting the ECC SIMMS. Any ideas why the BIOS isn't seeing all of the available RAM? - the system has 2 x 486/33 processor cards installed - one base CPU card, and one CPU/SCSI card. The system can hold up to 4 processor cards; were there any OSes that could use 4 processors at a time? Is it worth hunting down two extra CPU cards? - there's a TZK10-AA tape drive in the system. What tape cartridges does this drive use? - the processor cards use Intel 80486 DX chips at 33 Mhz. I dimly recall that the 80486DX2/66 is a drop in replacement for the 80486DX33. Can I get a quick speed boost by swapping the processor chips? - finally, how popular were these machines? They're nicely built and engineered, but I had never heard of them before I found this one, and the MicroPDP-11 that I got with it ... but that's another story. Thanks a lot for any help. Mark Gregory

25 years, 4 months

Apple Floppy Controller schematic - anyone?

by philpem＠btinternet.com

Hi, I'm currently designing and building a 6502-based computer system for my own use. Right now, everything is done. Except the damn floppy controller. I read about the Apple floppy controller on the 'net (woz.org) and I would like to get hold of some schematics. Anyone got any idea where I could get these? Better yet, anyone mind scanning and e-mailing me it? Thanks. -- Phil. http://www.philpem.f9.co.uk/ philpem(a)bigfoot.com PGP Key Fingerprint: 1FA6 6C7F A2FD BB15 84BF 4993 2B27 0628 E54E 33B1

25 years, 4 months

VAX-11/780 boot disk

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Yup, definetly a decent haul... I think my record is 3 Interdata 7/32C's, 3 Perkin-Elmer 3210's, a Perkin-Elmer 3205, 2 Perkin-Elmer 3203's, 5 terminals, 3 tape drives, 16 or so hard disks, some graphics terminal with a joystick, and an entire pallet of manuals. All together: 14 pallets of stuff... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 4 months

VAX-11/780 boot disk

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 11:37 AM 1/23/01 -0600, Richard W. Schauer wrote: >I just recently acquired a whole bunch of stuff out of a company's >basement, including a VAX-11/780, VAX-11/750, 4 RA81's, a TU80, a >pdp-11/44, 4 RL02's, an RP06, a TS11, and spare parts and printsets >galore. (Yes, John Foust, the little pdp-11/44 in Milwaukee led to all >that.) Wow, so does this mean you'll deliver the 45 to me? :-) Congratulations on a great haul! - John

25 years, 4 months

KIM-1 restoration advice sought

by archer＠topnow.com

I have a partially-functional KIM-1 (date code 0378) I'd like to restore. (And if anyone has one in good condition to sell, I'm also interested.) Currently, there are two things wrong, and I'm looking for general advice on what if anything can be done to fix them: 1. The keypad is pretty flakey. Several keys register erratically, and when they do, they bounce and report multiple times. The '0' key is particularly bad in this respect. The 'PC' key is utterly caved in. But all but the PC key registers in with varying degrees of retries and effort. I'm handy with soldering, and could remove the keypad, but don't have any idea how to clean / fix a keypad, let alone repair any broken springs, contacts, etc. Can it even be done? Has anyone here even seen the inside of one of these? 2. The cassette interface doesn't read. It writes fine, the +12 supply is showing up where it's expected (pin 8 of LM311) and +11-ish on the 565 PLL, but I have no idea what the "normal" voltages on each pin are to assist in further troubleshooting. All I'm sure about is that the output of the LM311 is not anything like what's expected, and the trimpot doesn't affect the PLL frequency one iota according to my scope. Any thoughts on how to tell what section is bad? Thanks for any ideas out there. In the meantime, I am thinking of wiring an outboard keypad and hooking it to the application connector. Hand-wired, of course. Where else would you find a 3x7 matrix? .

25 years, 4 months

Hyperion on eBay

by hellige＠mediacen.navy.mil

It's not labled as such, but there's a Hyperion currently on eBay with the 'purchase now' option set at $40. It's got the canvas carrying case as well. It's URL is: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1209583008 Again, I have no connection to the seller. Just thought I'd pass this on since a number of people have mentioned being on the look-out for this machine. Jeff

25 years, 4 months

Getting desparate for TRS-80 serial card

by vcf＠siconic.com

Ok, I have not had any responses on my request to buy a TRS-80 Expansion Interface serial board. I am really getting desperate now. I don't need to keep the board so if anyone is willing to lend or even RENT me one then that would be fine. $$$ Please reply to <sellam(a)vintage.org>. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

25 years, 4 months

ICEbox, AppDEC, KIM, Communicator

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:57:30 -0800 > From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> > Subject: Re: Intel ???? rescued, weekend finds > > This is "The ICEBox" an in-circuit emulator for Intel > processors. It is a > great way to bring up new designs and defeat copy protection > schemes :-) I've got a similar beast manufactured by Amtron. It's a 386PC with a specialized interface card that you plug these bloody huge and heavy boxes into that you must piggyback over a CPU or something. It came with pods for 8086, 8088, 286, 386SX, 386DX, 486 and 68K chips. Haven't powered it up yet, and some of the pods have never been taken out of their rather large boxes. No docs though. > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:17:44 -0500 > From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: Machines I'm looking for... > > According to an ex-Commodore engineer I used to correspond > with, they were one and the same thing, as Commodore never did Have you still got his details? Could you ask him about the European P500? :) > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:02:00 -0500 > From: Gene Ehrich <gehrich(a)tampabay.rr.com> > Subject: TI Expansion Unit > > I have the following that I am selling for an acquaintance. > > Let me know if you know anyone who is interested. > > Texas Instruments Home Computer Peripheral Expansion System > Model No. PHP1200 in Original Box > > Never used <puts hand up>. I'm interested but I guess I'm in the wrong country :( > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:40:04 -0500 (EST) > From: "r. 'bear' stricklin" <red(a)bears.org> > Subject: Re: Windes ME > > And the N9000 Communicator uses a pair of 80386 CPUs. The 9110 uses an > 80486. I know, I was there. (: Does it? Ooo - I've got a 9110 right next to me ATM, but it looks a bit dead :( > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:26:14 -0700 > From: "Mark Gregory" <gregorym(a)cadvision.com> > Subject: applicationDEC 433MP > > - - the machine has 2 memory boards, which give a maximum of > 32 megs of ECC > RAM, with 40 x 1 meg SIMMs. Can the system use more than 2 > memory boards, to > go to 64 megs? Or can the 1 meg SIMMs be replaced by 4 meg SIMMs? These things top out at 16mb and only report 14mb available...... > there any OSes that could use 4 processors at a time? Is it > worth hunting down two extra CPU cards? The only OS to use the dual CPU was a SMP version of SCO U**x 3.x, but I could never see the point of a dual CPU machine with so little RAM available! > - - there's a TZK10-AA tape drive in the system. What tape > cartridges does this drive use? Off the top of my head I can't remember, so I'll go downstairs and get the DEC bumf for it. > engineered, but I had never heard of them before I found this > one, and the > MicroPDP-11 that I got with it ... but that's another story. We only ever sold 1 (the mini version) to a local college to run some financials on, we used one internally for SCO development (ack - what a terrible OS), another one ended up with NT on it as a server and it ended its days as a humble fax server - the other one ended up with Winduhs 95 on running as a Quake server :o)) I think they were eclipsed 'cos that was around the time the PC market started exploding..... > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:16:55 -0700 > From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com> > Subject: Re: KIM-1 restoration advice sought > > switch matrix to match what's on the KIM. I've built memory > circuits, etc, > for the KIM, but never paid much attention to the KIM itself, > hence, I can't > remember anything specific about the keypad, except that it Do you know anything about memory modules for the KIM made by "The Computerist"? My Kim's got one and I was told it's also an EPROM blower.... Ross: > Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't think it > has anything like standard parts. Everything about it looks > custom-molded to fit the > unusual key shape (curved keytops with painted legends and > smoothly-rounded key edges), unusual key layout (slide switch > + two independent buttons and 3 x 7 matrix of scanned buttons). > > The way it's put together suggests to me a very well-designed > custom keypad that would only make sense if sold in the > thousands. > > Of course, as always, I could be wrong. :) I think that the keypad for the KIM is actually from one of the CBM calculators of the day since they'll have had one or two lying around! Certainly from a looks point of view its identical to the keypad on one of my non-scientific calcs from around '76/'77, both layout and power switch are the same. Back on me head :o) -- Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP C CAT Limited Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home) <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum) 0/0

25 years, 4 months

HP 95LX at a good price

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

eBay's prices for HP 95LX's are ridiculous. It doesn't have to be the 1MB model but I need another one to do some hardware hacking on. Does anyone have a source for these, or would be willing to sell? Also, I came up with an Aquarius 4K memory pack this weekend. Seems to be in good condition. If anyone's after one of these, let me know and we'll work out something. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- The optimum committee has no members. -- Norman Augustine ------------------

25 years, 4 months

OT: Jokes -- New One-Liners.......

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

>Subject: New One-Liners....... > > 1. Home is where you hang your @ > > 2. The E-mail of the species is more deadly than the mail.. > > 3. A journey of a thousand sites begins with a single click.. > > 4. You can't teach a new mouse old clicks.. > > 5. Great groups from little icons grow.. > > 6. Speak softly and carry a cellular phone.. > > 7. C:\ is the root of all directories.. > > 8. Don't put all your hypes in one home page.. > > 9. Pentium wise; pen and paper foolish.. > > 10. The modem is the message.. > > 11. Too many clicks spoil the browse.. > > 12. The geek shall inherit the earth.. > > 13. A chat has nine lives.. > > 14. Don't byte off more than you can view.. > > 15. Fax is stranger than fiction.. > > 16. What boots up must come down.. > > 17. Windows will never cease.. > > 18. In Gates we trust.. > > 19. Virtual reality is its own reward.. > > 20. Modulation in all things.. > > 21. A user and his leisure time are soon parted.. > > 22. Know what to expect before you connect.. > > 23. Oh, what a tangled Web site we weave when first we practice... > > 24. Speed thrills.. > > And, finally... > > 25. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; > teach him to use the Web and he won't bother you for weeks............. > >

25 years, 4 months

1.1 million Atari 2600 and 7800 game cartridges available

by jfoust＠threedee.com

http://www.gamecenter.com/News/Item/0,3,0-5168,00.html?st.gc.inc..gn - John

25 years, 4 months

HP 9000

by optimus＠canit.se

Last night, at the user group, we tried to fire up an old HP 9000/822 (I trust this falls inside the classic frame?). Unfortunately, the key has been lost somewhere along to road, so we had to hotwire it (is this the correct term?). We have two large sets of manuals, but they only cover HP-UX and various monitors, so we have no idea what all the error codes at the front panel might mean. Also, where do we connect a console? We've got two serial muxes at the back, as well as ethernet, but that's all the I/O we've been able to find. Any pointers to useful beginners' HP?

25 years, 4 months

WEBROW/1.1 (RT-11; PDP11/45)

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

OK, here is the question of the day. I was just doing a search on RT-11 and came up with the following: Browser Statistics for Monday 17/Jul/2000 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/bstats/days/00-07/000717.html The line of interest reads as follows: 1 WEBROW/1.1 (RT-11; PDP11/45) Anyone know what this is? This could just be someone having their system setup to report as being something else. In searching on just WEBROW I'm guessing this might be a piece of Russian software (most of the hits were Russian web pages). Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

25 years, 4 months

OT: Lego Mindstorm

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

Hi all, I just scored a Lego mindstorm 1.5 this week end unfortunately I am missing the CD any one around got one and can make a copy? Pleas contact me off line. To bring it back to charter I also found an Atari Videon Touch Pad for the 2600. Were there many games that made use of it? Thanks Francois

25 years, 4 months

Large hard disk

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

At 11:23 22-01-2001 +0000, Alex Holden wrote: <snip> >Does anybody know what this drive is, how old it is, what type of machine >it was used with, what capacity it is, how much it cost when new, etc. That sounds an awful lot (and the part number format bears this out) like the HDA from a Fujitsu 'Eagle' or 'SuperEagle' drive. Any other guesses? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

25 years, 4 months

Large hard disk

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:23:44 +0000 (GMT) Alex Holden <alex(a)linuxhacker.org> writes: > position sensor). The mounting frame is shock mounted to the base > via four rubber bushes. On the mounting frame is a label which says > "B030-4840-T031A". On the top cover panel next to the head ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This looks like a Fujitsu number to me . . . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

25 years, 4 months

Making an Atari 400/800 Basic cartridge Eprom type?

by hellige＠mediacen.navy.mil

>> One reason I would think Atari BASIC would be a bit larger is >> the fact that it included support for all the advanced features of >> the Atari hardware, such as collision detection and player-missle > >Jeff, keep in mind that Microsoft BASIC came from the same source tree no >matter what the target CPU. The interpreter was written in a kind of >macro language and run through a post processor for the target platform. >Because of this there was very little, if any space optimizing done unless >the OEM either got the generated source to work on, or they paid MS for >the task. A couple of years ago someone posted a bit of this macro like >code to alt.folklore.computers with a brief description of how it all >went together. A dejanews hunt might even find it. But that has little to do with my comment since Atari BASIC is not Microsoft BASIC. MS BASIC was available seperately. Atari did thier own interpreter which was written specifically for the 400/800 series machines and incorporated functions specific to the hardware. Commodore on the other hand did not build this same level of functionality into thier variants of BASIC for the C-64 and I was just wondering if anyone knew if the MS BASIC available for the Atari had any of it included. By your comments above, I would assume not. Jeff (replying to this from work)

25 years, 4 months

TRS-80 Model II on eBay

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Folks, A few days ago, someone mentioned a dutch auction on eBay for four TRS-80 Model II computer systems (#1208570093), but there was some confusion as to whether or not the seller actually had four systems. I've just exchanged email with the seller, and he says that he does indeed have four units for sale. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

SMD cabling information / Symbolics know-nothings

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

The CDC drive of which RDD speaks has auto-parking heads... no head clamp/shipping lock there... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 4 months

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