>Smile, and keep your eyes open for a better system. As has been pointed
out
For 40$ thats not bad but it's incomplete unless the disks are there then
it's
much more.
If you were seriously into PDP11 and shipping it didn't cost a bomb
$40-50
isn't much for spares.
>it doesn't have any serial port boards and it took Allison's note to get
me
>to wondering if there are even any on the CPU board... There are on my
>/23+'s, but not on my /23. There is a good chance that isn't a usable
>system.
Serial cards are gotten cheap. The M8189 (11/23 and 11/23+ <or B>)
has two serial ports and the equvilent of the M8012 on it, the M8186
does not have anything but basic CPU so you need the M8012
and a serial line card or two. Either CPU can be used in the same
box.
Besides if that is a complete system it's probably in a 4' 19" rack!
With RL01/2, RX01/2 and BA11S or N box that could be stuffed into a 36"
small office rack, likely it's a 40, 48" or larger one.
Allison
Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com> said:
> The //c disk controller is for all reasonable intents and purposes the same
> as the Disk ][ controller used in the Apple ][ and ][+, simply with a
> different connector pinout (D-subminature 19 pin instead of a 2x10 header).
> It's reduced from seven chips to one, but functions the same.
In fact I remember about 1988, buying a small connector from Jameco. It
had
pins on both sides almost like a wire wrap header. (I seem to me that
the pins
were straight through). One side plugged into the //c floppy port and
the
other side plugged into the ribbon cable from the Apple ][ drive. And
it
cost two or three dollars. I couldn't find it on their web site just
now,
but I was surprised to see that they still sell power supplies for the
Apple ][,][+,][e.
--Doug
====================================================
Doug Coward
Curator
Analog Computer Museum and History Center
http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog
====================================================
> Well, since you're into Linux, you might want to take a look at:
> http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/
> I'm not sure though if you'd be able to get any form of UNIX up on this
> system.
There's a binary V6 system in the PUPS Unix archives that will run on a 11/23
with 64K and attached RL02 drives. I rescued it from a pile at a UBC SERF sale
about 4 years ago.
Note that the "Standard" V6 system doesn't support RL02's; the exact
lineage of this find hasn't been completely researched yet - and it may
never be, as the sources haven't been found.
Tim.
Got the attached in the evening's mail. If anyone on the list can help,
please contact Mitch directly. Thanks!
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>Delivered-To: kyrrin(a)mail-sttl.uswest.net
>Delivered-To: alias-bluefeathertech.com-kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 20:03:52 -0400
>From: "mbillian" <mbillian(a)erols.com>
>To: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>Subject: Vintage Calculator Restore
>
>Bruce, was wondering if you might be able to help me restore a piece of
>obselete equipment. I recently acquired a Compucorp 140 (nixie) desktop
>calculator which works perfectly, however it's missing 3 keys: 'chg
>sign' key, 'reset' key and the key with 2 bell shaped curves on it. I
>would buy the keys or ones of the same style with different
>markings. Let me know if you could suppy them or know of a source.
>Here is a picture:
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7510/compucorp140.html
>
>thanks
>
>Mitch
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our
own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
Congratulations--may boot camp pass quickly and your CC not learn your name!
--Mike
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From: Neil Cherry <ncherry(a)home.net>
To: classic <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 6:22 PM
Subject: PDP 11-23 questions
>I've found a PDP 11-23 computer oand I haven't the foggiest idea
>about it. What should I look for?
>
>Claims to have:
>
>M8044 DB
>M8044 DB
Two 32KW memories, second rev 32kw, no parity. You can have
more of those up to 128KW (256KB)
>M8186
11/23 KDF11A cpu if the handle has a C melted into it anywhere it's Q22
otherwise Q18 (assuming the second chip is there, the MMU).
>M8013
>M8014
RLV11 set, used for RL01 or RL02 removeable 14" 10mb disk.
>M8029
RQDX21 interface for RX02. the is an interface you need the
RX02 for a complete floppy system.
>M8012 YA
diagnostic/Boot/terminator card, a must have with M8186
as the CPU has NO boot (it does have microODT).
there is a field guide for PDP11s! Also there is no serial IO
that you have listed. Typically a M8043 (DLV11J 4 port serial)
or a M8017 maybe an old M7940 both similar DLV11 type
single serial ports.
Allison
Hello,
Still haven't found a boot disk, and not having a vintage Mac, I can't
download an image from the net either.
Would someone out there who has one be able to make a copy for me? I can
send DSDD disks for the process. The internal drive is 3.5", and I have a
5.25" external as well.
Cute little devil -- just want to play with it a bit.
Kind regards
--
Gary Hildebrand
Box 6184
St. Joseph, MO 64506-0184
816-662-2612
or
ghldbrd(a)ccp.com
Anyone know anything about the Proapp 20? It appears to be a
harddrive that works with Apple IIe, IIc, IIgs or a Mac 512 and Mac
Plus. It plugs into either the floppy port or a scsi port. Anyone
have any more info on these?
Thanks.
-----
David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
There's a question - since I can't get to the FAQs ATM can anyone tell me
which Mac monitor I can use with the ][GS? And the ][c+ for that
matter......
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul R. Santa-Maria [mailto:paulrsm@ameritech.net]
> Sent: 06 August 2000 18:28
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Apple IIc+ boot disk for DOS3.3
>
>
> > > There are, of course, many other features in the ROM; it's just a
> matter of
> > > digging up the programming info. And (since you have such a late
> member of
> > > the ][ series) there are also features in the hardware,
> such as double-
> > > resolution text, low-res, and high-res modes, that the
> ROM was never
> updated
> > > to handle.
> > How do you get at these modes? Are they in the IIgs, also?
> >
> > Speaking of which, can you drive the IIgs graphics chip and
> sound chip,
> > whatever they're called, from Applesoft?
>
> The double-resolution text mode is 80-column mode, and can be
> turned on
> with PR#3. This mode is supported by the ROM.
>
> The double low-res (twice as wide, not half as wide!) and
> double hi-res
> modes are not supported by the ROM. You can write BASIC
> routines to use
> them, but it is much faster to use assembly language routines
> called by
> BASIC. These modes are also in the Apple IIe and IIc.
>
> The IIgs has super-res modes with hardware color fill
> available. I am not
> a IIgs programmer (I use mine as a IIe) but there may be ROM
> routines in
> the toolbox to support those modes. The same may be true for the IIgs
> sound chip. I have seen a BASIC program that used the sound
> chip, but all
> it did was POKE the data into memory.
>
> No Apple II has real support for even the built-in speaker in the ROM,
> except for the Programmer's Aid #1 option for Integer BASIC
> which had tone
> routines.
>
> Paul R. Santa-Maria
> Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
> paulrsm(a)ameritech.net
>
