Thanks Tony,
There are several large chips that say "Xilinx XC2018-70 PC84C A6396A9103E."
More revealing, maybe, is what I just spotted amidst stickers and components: "Central Processing Unit." Heh. So this appears to be a big honkin motherboard from some...analytical thing. Another largish chip says "Dallas DS1287 Real Time" followed by more numbers.
I am gonna hang this on my wall. Unless someone on the list is dying to have it.
--MB
--- Tony Duell wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>
> I was at the local computer junkyard today and snagged a logic board I can't
> identify. If anyone knows what it is, please enlighten me/us...
>
>
> It's about 15 inches wide and 9 deep. Has a "test passed" sticker dated 1991.
> The whole front edge is a connector. The rear port labels include things like
> "octal-UART connector," "SCSI bus to disc," and lots of letters and numbers. It
> says "Computer board PC 1916" on the left side and "Link Analytical made in
> England" on the right. It was in a static bag and looks unused.
I've sort-of come across a company called 'Link Systems'. In fact one of
my ASR33s (Data Dynamics case/electronics) is badged by them.
>From what I remember they made computerised (mostly) analytical
instruments, spectrometers, electron microscopes, that sort of thing.
The computers were sometimes based on PDP11 CPUs (or occasionally DG
Novas IIRC).
They may well have designed their own CPU boards later on, but I've never
seen anything like that.
My guess is that you've found a board, possibly an interface, possibly a
complete CPU, from one of these instruments. What (if any) large chips
are on it?
-tony
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Then... Big timesharing companies... Now... Application Service Providers
Then... Service Bureaus... Now ... Web Hosting companies
Is it repackaging or recycling?
-Joel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of David Vohs
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 22:53
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Somewhat OT: Then & Now.
This is something that I had posted on the comp.sys.cbm newsgroup that I
thought would be intresting to see how much the computer world has (or
hasn't) changed starting right around 1980 or so. So if you've seen this
before, I apologize.
Anyway, here are some things that have changed (or have they?) in the
computer world:
Back then we had: Daisychained peripherals to the Commodore IEC serial bus.
Now we have: Daisychained peripherals to the Universal Serial Bus.
Back then we had: The Original Macintosh.
Now we have: The iMac.
Back then we had: Computers with a built-in RF modulator.
Now we have: Video cards with a built-in RF modluator.
Back then we had: The Original Macintosh II.
Now we have: The G3/G4 PowerMac.
Back then we had: The Commodore 1581 head-knocking/Click of Death problem.
Now we have: The Iomega Zip drives' Click of Death problem.
Back then we had: The Macintosh Portable.
Now we have: The iMac.
Back then we had: The Tandy Model 100.
Now we have: The PalmPilot.
This is all that I could think of, I want anybody who can think of anything
that hasn't changed to add something on this list. Let's show people that
the old phrase "The more things change, the more things stay the same" is
true!
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David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian.
Computer Collection:
"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, Okimate 20.
"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
"Delorean": TI-99/4A.
"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3.
"Boombox": Sharp PC-7000.
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Mike and I went to one place today and found the remains of a Data General
Aiivion (sp?) in the scrap metal pile. We had gotten there too late to
save it. :-( I did get the CPU module out of it. It has three large ICs on
it. Two are XC88200RC25B s and the other is a MC88100RC25. Can anyone tell
me what exactly these are?
Joe
>A few years ago in a surplus store I found the RCA CMOS databook that
>contained (sketchy) specs for the 1801. However, the idiots were not
I have basic specs fot the pair, deeply burried though.
>The databook indicated that the 1801 is a two-chip set, which consists of
>the CDP1801C and CDP1801R, the former containing the control circuitry and
>that latter containing the registers. Apparently RCA designed it as a
>production prototype, and did not intend it for commercial use, instead
>recommending that customers design in the 1802 which was due out soon
>thereafter.
Not quite true. the pair were used by special customers for quite a while
as they were by basic construction rad hard.
There were a few minor instruction differences as well, the 1801 had fewer
than the 02.
Allison
On the topic of VAXstations, does anyone one the list have experience with
hacking VLC's and or LCD's? I'm wondering how feasable it would be to hook
an LCD display up to a VLC, and if it would be possible with off the shelf
hardware.
The other alternative I'm thinking of would be to pickup a cheap laptop,
load Linux/X-Windows on it, and use it as an intelligent X-Terminal.
At this point, you're probably asking, what on Earth am I trying to do.
Well, I've decided I want a VAX "Laptop", and while I really doubt I can
have it battery powered I want to see what I can do starting with a VLC as
the base. I figure as long as I can get the final product about the size
of an old Toshiba 5200 I'm on the right track. Of course I'm also thinking
that if I can find the time to do this and do it right I'll have to build
my own case for all the guts of the pieces.
If nothing else a VLC and a Laptop used as a terminal should make a nice
small easily portable VAX. I figure I'll initially try this out with my
Mac PowerBook 540c since it's got built in ethernet and I can run eXodus on
it for DECwindows support. However, as the 540c is only 640x480 I figure
it's only good for a couple Mac telnet windows or a DECterm via X.
Anyone have any ideas? I hope to start in on this next weekend, but it
will depend on how soon the VLC I just bought for this takes to get here.
As for the why, well, why not :^)
Zane
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Another one of my VaxStation 3100's is a KA42 ver 1.3. It has LOGIN and (SET) PSWD commands in the DCL whereas my KA42 ver 1.2's do not. I don't know the password for the 1.3 box. Is there a way to reset it or find out what it is?
Thanks again.
- Mike
Well... Alot of intervening miles later, one MMJ cable later, one doubly terminated BNC T later, my VaxStation 3100's a little happier. Still not booting though. SHOW DEV shows ESA0 (default boot) and the floppy (I forget the dau) and DKA300 which it will not boot from. I take it these were booted from somewhere else on the network. How can I get VMS on the DKA300 or at least see what's already there? Help!
Thanks
- Mike
From: Sellam Ismail <dastar(a)siconic.com>
To: Classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <Classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 11:56 PM
Subject: Looking for Allison Parent
Is Allison Parent still subscribed here? If so, could you please e-mail me
with your current e-mail address? If not, could someone please let me
know how I can contact her?
Yes???
It's still allisonp(a)world.std.com
Allison
Hi all,
I hope everyone is having a great weekend.
Another item scored along with the rest of the subject's "interesting finds"
was an Applied Microsystems thingy (an ES0130 (???)) It's a multibus gizmo
in a small chasis missing the front plate. On the back , there are two db25
ports for Terminal and Computer, and a BNC for a Trigger. There is sticker
on top listing two options installed: 1) AMC/ES-68000/8 and, 2) AN/403158.
Another sticker on top says 128k.
There are five cards installed on the back plane accessable from the front
of the unit. They are:
1. ES Controller (with a 6809 on board)
2. ES Controller Memory
3. Trace and Break
4. ES Ram Overlay ver. 2
5. 68010 08/00 Emulator
Anybody familiar with it?
I also got two Dec boards: M7164 (it has 4 AMD2901 bit slicers on it) and a
M7165. I'd happily trade both of these for a M7260 that I could dearly use.
And last but not least found is an boxed A MAX, the Macintosh Emulator for
the Amiga with the Apple ROMS but missing disks. Does anyone have this
software?
Thanks and beware the bunnies...
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
Is Allison Parent still subscribed here? If so, could you please e-mail me
with your current e-mail address? If not, could someone please let me
know how I can contact her?
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger
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