Hi gang,
Went with Joe Rigdon last weekend and picked up a HP 3000/37 that he had
spotted. The unit was mounted in a short cabinet with several 670H drives.
It had been sitting partially covered in a scrap dealers yard in the Orlando
area. Thankfully, it's not the rainy season so, it was still in pretty good
shape.
When I got it home and opened the computer up, it really wasn't that dirty
inside. I just dusted the boards off, checked the connectors for corrosion,
and reassembled it. The switch on the front panel was gummed-up and stuck in
the off position. I broke it trying to work it loose and had to do some
microsurgery to get it working again.
I opened up each of the 670H drive cabinets, dusted them out, and
reassembled. When plugged in, everyone of them gives a green light. A couple
of them sounded a little funky during their first spin-up but, they all seem
to be working now. Obviously, they had been sitting for a long time and were
reluctant about going back to work. I can relate to that :-)
All in all, I got (8) 670H, (6) 7963B, and a 7936 (I think that's correct)
drive. The 7963B can support multiple drives in the same cabinet but, these
only had one drive each. The 7936 is a big sucker. Similar to the 7937
"Eagle" drives. I've previously had trouble with Eagle drives so, I haven't
even tried to power that one up, yet. These are 8" belt-driven monsters that
are sensitive to shock and inactivity. The belts get all gooey and are a
pain in the butt to clean. Last time I tackled one of these, I strained my
back trying to put it back in the cabinet. That particular drive crashed
within a week and really pissed me off.
I mounted 3 of the 670H drives in the cabinet with the 3000, connected my
tape drive, and powered everything up. After much dinking, I was finally
able to install the OS from the MPE FOS tapes. I'm still a rooky at MPE but,
after threee days of tinkering, I got it to work... YIPEE!!!
Let me tell ya, over the last few days, I have learned a LOT about
installing that OS.
Still having trouble configuring the system with a line printer. Not sure if
the problem is with the printer, the configuration, or me (naw couldn't be).
When I connect my HPIB printer, the system has trouble finding other devices
on that chain. That printer was working with my /42 but, it was on a port
all by itsself. The /37 doesn't have as many I/O ports as the /42 so, my
options are considerably more limited.
Anyway, I finally have a "Classic 3000" that doesn't double as a space
heater. Both me and my air-conditioner are happy. Many thanks to Joe for
turning me on to this *great* find.
See Ya,
Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
Hello all, I picked up a nice DEC cabinet and nestled inside of it was a
DEC Channel server which is apparently a MicroVAX II, 8MB of RAM, and a
four or five board set that connects to an IBM "channel". Does anyone have
any interest in the channel interface and the cab kit? (I've got designs on
the BA23 and the rack which is what I wanted in the first place.
--Chuck
Cameron wrote:
In a message dated 03/14/2000 5:10:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ckaiser(a)oa.ptloma.edu writes:
> Does anyone have a power supply pinout or info for the TS2068? I didn't
> get a good look at the unit (it appeared in good physical shape), but it
has
> no
> power supply and I'm unwilling to buy it merely for collectable value (all
> my classic computers do WORK, darn it!). Well, okay, the KIM-1 doesn't. :-)
What you need is a 15-24 VDC supply which can put out one amp, center
negative.
The 2068 is a very nice machine, but was abandoned when Timex ceased
production. Very little software was produced for it, but with a Spectrum
emulator cartridge you will have access to over 10,000 programs which are
posted on the 'net. Disk drive interfaces are still available -- brand new
-- as well as centronics i/fs and even EPROM burners, if you want to take it
that far. I also have a speech synth and tape drives attached to mine.
If you can get the machine for under $100, and it works, and you don't mind
spending a little more time and $$ chasing down some extra hardware for it,
you can put together a pretty cool 8 bit system with one of these. I use
mine every day.
If you need some more help let me know off list
Glen Goodwin
0/0
They are the same HDA. Different board.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Oliviero <oliv555(a)arrl.net>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:50 PM
Subject: DEC drives
>Just got in a couple of RF35s off of eBay for use
>in my MV3800 project. What has me intrigued is
>that they are labeled "RF35 / RZ35".
>
>I thought RZ was a SCSI designation. My DEC docs
>are dated, anybody can shed light on this ?
>
>Thanks ............ Nick
On March 14, Nick Oliviero wrote:
> Just got in a couple of RF35s off of eBay for use
> in my MV3800 project. What has me intrigued is
> that they are labeled "RF35 / RZ35".
>
> I thought RZ was a SCSI designation. My DEC docs
> are dated, anybody can shed light on this ?
RZ is a scsi designation. I believe the RF35 and the RZ35 share a
common HDA; only the logic board is different.
-Dave McGuire
anyone need it? it has a dodgy power connector, but if you hold the wires
just right, it works. just pay for shipping.
DB Young ICQ: 29427634
ACVM antique computer virtual museum
http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm
--You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think--
<Even QNX seems pretty cool - I've tried the demo. If I can get my hands on
<of these nifty things and just drop the generic QNX dialup stuff from the d
<disk in place of their hardwired one, I'm hoping I can run QNX with the IS
<of my choice. If not, I'll probably put BeOS on it.
I havent looked into QNX or BeOS so I can't comment. What are they and
what do they cost?
Allison
Just got in a couple of RF35s off of eBay for use
in my MV3800 project. What has me intrigued is
that they are labeled "RF35 / RZ35".
I thought RZ was a SCSI designation. My DEC docs
are dated, anybody can shed light on this ?
Thanks ............ Nick
<Vinyl gloves better, latex too flimsy but both doesn't block most
<nasty chemicals and latex fall apart. Vinyl tad better with mild
<chemicals, oils, grease, inks and alcohol stuff.
Latex, resistant to stuff that Vinyl isn't
<I think the ones is teal/bluish color (nitile sp?) is what good for
<this. I see these used for epoxy, some nasty chemicals and biohazard
<jobs. This are ones I'm looking for to buy, where?
Nitrile, synthetic rubber for those that are latex sensitive and also
resistant to somethings the other two are not.
There is a rating called breakthrough time for various chemicals and
solvents.
Also all three are available in various weights (thickness) for special
needs/applications.
I know this as I worked in pharaceuticals for a while and some of the
stuff was quite nasty (Acids, bases and strong solvents). The other half
was basic cleanroom/sanitation.
It's not a bad idea.
Allison
A recent haul of HP computer stuff netted some HP3000 Series III
racks, card cages and power supplies. Didn't I see someone on the list
who is still supporting and/or using a 3000? There is also the cadaver
of a HP3000 model 30 [actually looks complete but some one has pulled
all the cards out]. If anyone is interested there are some pix posted at
http://mh106.infi.net/~ip500/HPcomputers/
Not pictured but also available are a bunch of 2635B terminals,
a couple of huge 2608 line printers, several of the 7920,20A or 25 disc
drives and a wealth of tapes, manuals, etc...
It's all [or mostly] for sale--I'm pretty reasonable--make that real
reasonable--and price corelates inversely with weight! Pick up only in
Roanoke, VA---only about 5 miles off of I-81.
I'd be really interested in any trade proposals involving a HP2100---or
earlier HP mini.
Thanks, Craig
