>Does anyone know if any FOCAL (DEC originals or otherwise) documentation is
>online?
The DECUS PDP-8 Focal sources (in PAL10) are available. FOCAL.PA begins with:
/**** FOCAL 5/69 ****
/E.A.TAFT - REVISION OF FOCALW 8/68 /EAT/ 25-JUL-72
/ASSEMBLY INSTRUCTIONS FOR DECUS VERSION:
/INPUT FILES:
/ FOCAL.569 FOCAL LANGUAGE PROCESSOR
/ FLOAT.569 FLOATING POINT PACKAGE
/ EXTEND.569 EXTENDED FUNCTION PACKAGE
/ 2USER.569 2-USER OVERLAY
What I have is in the "nickel" PDP-8 DECTAPE archive rescued by me from the
University of Indiana several years ago. The Focal stuff, in particular,
is on the web at:
http://www.trailing-edge.com/~shoppa/focal/
If you were asking about FOCAL-10 (for a PDP-10), this is available on
the web as well, from the home to all good software that's PDP-10
related:
http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/www/lib10/0462/
If you want the PDP-11 (specifically, for RT-11) sources, you can
find this at the Metalab.unc.edu PDP-11 archives as DECUS entry
11-0447. Go to
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/
then go into the RT-11 archives, pick the "decus11" directory, and
you'll see three 110477 directories (d1, d2, and d3), one for each original
floppy.
I also have much RSX and DOS-11 FOCAL stuff that's not indexed yet.
I hope this helps. If none of these packages meets your needs, you
might ask again for your specific platform(s). Enjoy!
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
Does anyone know if any FOCAL (DEC originals or otherwise) documentation is
online?
I am delighted to find someone with this software. I would have been
satisfied with a printed hex dump, but if you have the manual and the
source code, yee-haw! When you find it please contact me. I'll take
photocopies, faxes, scans, .PDF, anything. As far as being
"machine-readable", for the KIM that would be paper tape or cassette tape;
neither are as useful as a "human-readable" version. I found the Denver
Area 6502 Group on the web at www.6502group.com; so far they have not been
able to help me with FOCAL. www.6502.org has no leads to it that I could
find.
I want to get this stuff to run on my Apple IIe. I am interested in any
KIM/SYM/AIM/6502 software that folks might have, especially with source
code. Anyone have issues of MICRO (the 6502 journal) they want to get rid
of? I do have the Best of MICRO, vols 1-3 and a few separate issues
(#73-76), plus the MICRO on the Apple vols 1-3.
Paul R. Santa-Maria
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
paulrsm(a)ameritech.net
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> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: KIM/6502 code (was ClassicCmp paper tape)
> Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 08:48 PM
>
> I don't know that anyone has machine-readables of the FOCAL interpreter
that
> was cooked up in the Denver Area 6502 group, but I do believe I have a
> printed manual and a printed listing of the interpreter. I'm quite
certain
> that I won't be able to find it until well into spring, however. Now
that
> many of us have scanners, new life is breathed into software available
only
> in the printed listings.
>
> Frankly, I hope someone has machine readable files of these items, but
I'm
> not aware of them.
>
> Dick
>Hi All
> I've been resisting putting this out but I've run out
>of my resources. I have a real dilemma!
> I've been trying to get in touch with Tom Pittman
>but I've not had too much success. I have a copy
<snip>
>The fellow that claimed to have contacted him was
>"Bill Richman" <bill_r(a)inetnebr.com>. I have sent him
>mail but not gotten a reply. I hate being in this position.
>I know that there are a bunch out there that are looking
>for this code.
Just for the record, I forwarded your information to Tom, as I don't feel
comfortable handing out his e-mail address. He replied that he would get
back to you shortly. I'll try to remind him tonight.
Bill Richman
http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r
(Home of the COSMAC Elf
microcomputer simulator!)
There's some ASR-33 info in this offer from the Greenkeys list...
- John
>X-POP3-Rcpt: jfoust@threedee
>From: Merz Donald S <merz.ds(a)mellon.com>
>To: TTY Friends <greenkeys(a)qth.net>
>Subject: [GreenKeys] TTY Diagrams, Specs, BSPs FS
>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:44:59 -0500
>Sender: owner-greenkeys(a)qth.net
>Reply-To: Merz Donald S <merz.ds(a)mellon.com>
>
>FOR SALE: Teletype Documentation
>
>Each of these packages is a thick stack of Teletype docs from AT&TCo. There
>are 20
>or more docs per set. There may be some duplicates. Condition ranges from
>like new
>to covered with Teletype oil. Mostly offered for the cost of postage and
>aggravation.
>
>Package 1: Model 28 Bell System Practices. Starts with General Instructions
>for installing
>the Model 28 ASR and covers all manner of modification kits such as
>horizontal and vertical
>tabulation, multicopy roll paper, keyboard modifications, etc. This is just
>a random set--no
>attempt was made to organize these or make a complete set. As-is. $5
>postage-paid.
>
>Package 2: Model 28 Bell System Practices. Same as #1 except a few less docs
>in this set.
>$5 PPD
>
>ASR User Manual photocopy. Old copy of AT&T 1961 ASR user guide. Free with
>any purchase.
>
>Bell System Practices Manual Set for Model 164C1, C2, C3 & C4 Telegraph
>Transmission
>Measuring Sets. 2 manuals: Description/Principles Of Operation and
>Calibration and Test
>Methods. Both original and like new. This looks like a nice instrument but I
>have never seen
>one of these. $8 PPD
>
>Bell System Practices Manual Set for Model 164C1, C2, C3 & C4 Telegraph
>Transmission
>Measuring Sets. As above but the "Calibration and Test Methods" manual is a
>photocopy.
>$6 PPD
>
>Package 3: Model 28 Wiring Diagrams: A 1" thick stack of un-sorted diagrams.
>$5 PPD
>
>MWO 80-3: Mandatory Modification Work Order For M-28 ASR, KSR & KTR. This is
>a
>comb-bound set of wiring diagrams and modification instructions dated
>August, 1971. I'm
>not sure what this set was used for. $5 PPD
>
>Package 4: This is a polyglot of wiring diagrams for "Multi-voltage
>Rectifiers," "High-Speed
>TDs," "Selective Calling Systems," "CXB200 & MU43," and much more. A total
>of about a
>1-1/2" thick pile. $5 PPD
>
>Package 5: M33, 101C, "Four-Row TWX," wiring diagrams. About 1" thick. $4
>PPD
>
>Package 6: Dataspeed wiring diagrams, Data Systems Schematics, "Recognizer
>Module"
>diagrams. About 1" thick. $5 PPD
>
>Package 7: 48V rectifier, high speed receiving distributor, multi-voltage
>rectifier,
>isolation repeater and others. About 1" thick. $4 PPD
>
>Package 8: Model 35 wiring diagrams, specifications for various
>modifications and a
>couple M35 BSPs. About 1/2" thick. $5 PPD
>
>Package 9: A reasonably complete set of M33 wiring diagrams on 11x17 paper
>plus a
>package of various M33 diagrams still in unopened wrappers. About 1" thick.
>$5 PPD
>
>Package 10: Everything you wanted to know about the Model 33 but were afraid
>to ask.
>This includes a complete set of M33 wiring diagrams and a mostly complete
>set of
>BSPs for the Model 33. This is really nice. About 2" thick. $24 PPD
>
>Package 11: BSPs and wiring diagrams for a lot of the early Bell data gear.
>Covers 101C,
>113A, 202C, 402D, 1001D and many more. Nice. About 1-1/2" thick. $7 PPD
>
>Contact Don at merz.ds(a)mellon.com
>
>----
>Submissions: greenkeys(a)qth.net
I have a friend who may be selling some of his TU58 / HP 85
tapes. Is there anyone who wishes to trade and PDP-11 Qbus
hardware. I am also looking for a SONY SMO S501 or
compatible magneto optical drive and cartridges (512 bytes per
sector).
<They show up at flea markets from time to time... I've seen a number
<of them at the MIT flea... I have one. Yes, the command PRINT does
<so to the integral printer... DISPLAY outputs to the screen. The
<tape drive uses the same cartridges as the TU58, though I am not
<sure if the formatting is the same...
It's DC100 cart and that where it ends. I think tu58 carts may work if
bulk erased first.
Allison
Can anyone tell me a few things about a system:
Consider the following machine:
VAX6000/400
3 x HSC70
2 x TU79
11 x Exsys disk drives
6 x Microtech disk drives
o How big is this machine?
o How much might it originally have gone for?
o What might it be worth now?
I'm not looking for answers like, "Pay me and I'll cart it away."
I know someone who has such a machine and is trying to sell it, but
I suspect that he is expecting a LOT more for it than it may be
worth nowadays... it is 10-12 years old and he recently had it at
auction on eBay for a minimum bid of $10000... I gather it did not
get any bids...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
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| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
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| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
Does anyone have any practical advice concerning this, something that
might save me a little time/frustration? I'm playing around with some
parts to try to learn more about how the system works, and here's what
I've got:
22bit qbus backplane
11/73 cpu
1 meg ram
various device interface cards (Dilog SQ706A, RQDX3, Emulex TC03, RXV21
clone)
I'd like to be able to set up the simplest system possible and try to
toggle in a bootstrap. I've played with the ones on metalab (RX01, MSCP)
without much real success so far. Trying to boot from the RX01's using the
bootstrap code on metalab results in the drive access light coming on, but
nothing else happening. Sending a break stops at 1044 every time, the
contents of that register is 1776. Trying to boot from the Dilog scsi
device #0 (should be DU0, right?) just hangs (again using the MSCP
bootstrap on metalab). The MSCP bootstrap is well-commented, so I can see
what's going on there...a little hint or push may be all I need to be able
to modify it to work for me. The RX01 bootstrap is not commented at all,
unfortunately.
I know the RXV21 clone is working OK, since I can boot from it with the
bootstrap roms on my multifunction card...
Thanks,
Aaron
Anyone interested in a working H/Z-110 low profile dual processor computer
system? CPU, Monitor, Software (CP/M-80, CP/M-86 and MS-DOS), Peripherals,
Technical and Operating manuals. Located near St. Louis. Pick up only as it
is a load of stuff to ship.
Thanks
Mike
I've been trying to track down some historical KIM/6502 code for some time.
Would you happen to have KIMATH, FOCAL, or Pittman's Tiny BASIC?
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> From: mark acierno <acierno(a)mindspring.com>
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: need help reading a paper tape....
> Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 10:49 AM
>
> Is there anyone out there who can help me. I have a paper tape (for the
> KIM-1) and I need it read. I dont care too much what format I get back -
> disk, paper print out, ect. would all be fine. I thought I had arranged
to
> have it read by a commercial classic computer support person --- but they
> now tell me that it will be quite some time before they can get to my
> request. The tape has real historical value ( although not much real $$
> value) and I would like to get it read as soon as possible.
>
> If you can help me or know of someone who can -- please e-mail me.
>
> thank you
>
> mark acierno
>
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