Chuck, there are a few things you may have forgotten. By the time one has
learned enough about parenting to be of use, it's too late for one's own
children. I've seen exceptions occur, in cases where when the first
"seating" has exited the scene, a second one is introduced. Those are the
exception rather than the rule, however.
Secondly, in an effort to make the nation's children safe from the few truly
abusive parents that we have in our communities, society has rendered
illegal the best and easiest-to-use tool, FEAR, sometimes best bundled with
GUILT, which is the other of these two tools for childrearing.
I had the harrowing experience of having a "counselor," and outsourced
individual provided by a district subcontractor, tell one of my sons that my
rather stern regimen of discipline was "too strict" and, thereby, validating
his desire to disregard my direction. Within weeks the boy was skipping
school, smoking, and not just tobacco, and who knows what else. His school
work was already poor, so that didn't fall off much. It was a long hard
couple of years getting him through high school and off to college.
Does this shed any light?
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: OT Responsibility Re: Dumpster stories!
>At 12:53 PM 2/10/00 -0800, Mike Ford wrote:
>>The only thing is this instance that seems to really work is to fine
anyone
>>the puts out a fridge without removing the door hinges. Children by
>>definition cannot be expected to obey rules, regardless of the rule.
>
>If you are the parent of a child who cannot "obey rules" especially ones
>that will kill them when violated then you must supervise that child. If
>you are unable to supervise them then you either train them or get someone
>else to supervise them. If you are unwilling to supervise them or get them
>supervised and they need it, then your children will die and I will feel
>sad for them but I will blame the parent.
>
>Attempting to make the world "bad parent" safe is not possible.
>
>--Chuck
>
--- "Richard A. Cini, Jr." <rcini(a)msn.com> wrote:
> Hello, all:
>
> For those not necessarily following my 6502-based SBC project on my Web
> site, here's the latest.
>
> The schematics are done, I just have to make some minor tweaks. Then I
> can work on the PCB layout.
With all the recent discussion, I'd like to know what you are using for
layout software.
> Anyway, what I'm going to do is make DXF pictures out of them and post
> them to my site for all to see. Comments will be welcomed.
Cool.
> Once the design is finalized, I'll have a prototype board made so that I
> can see if it works.
I'd also be interested in knowing who's burning your prototype and how much
it runs you. I still have delusions of completing my 1802 SBC.
-ethan
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>Just came across a surplus MicroVax 3100 model 30. Anyone want it?
>Mike
>mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
>Computer surplus scrounger, bin diver, pallet mover, dust blower,
classic
>computer lover, non PC computer discoverer, lover of old but not
forgotten
>technology
>
>
Hi! If it isn't spoken for and you don't mind shipping it (all charges
on me, of course), I might be interested in it. Do you have an idea of
what the system might contain in terms of memory expansion and hard
drives (number and size of)?
Thanks!
- Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net)
A coworker here has a set of Ultrix 4.0 manuals about to go to the
recycling bin. If anyone wants 'em, let me know today, and I'll
grab them.
-Rich
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Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services
Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625
------------------------- rich(a)alcor.concordia.ca ----------------------
>Anyway I've always wondered -- what is the ELF and who made it? I have a
>Quest Super Elf which I bought in kit form in 1981 (for $106.95, had to work
>half the summer to pay for it),
Netronics (or maybe it was NEtronics) sticks in my head. And I
remember the "Cosmac ELF" being the name of at least one version.
Gotta go dig out those old Popular Electronics... I swear every single issue
>from the late 70's had a Netronics ad. IIRC they also had some 8085
SBC's.
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Howdy folks...
I found these manuals on ebay - I already have a copy of all of these, but I
thought fellow HP 2100/2114/2115/2116 collectors might find them usefull. No
bidders yet, 2 days left in the auction, and the asking price appears to be
14 bucks and some change...
I only call it to everyones attention because they are not listed in a
category on ebay that most of us would have likely found them...
Jay West
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> Title of item: Early HP Computer Manuals
> Seller: wogilvie(a)best.com
> Starts: Feb-05-00 18:34:59 PST
> Ends: Feb-12-00 18:34:59 PST
> Price: Starts at $14.50
> To bid on the item, go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254393623
>
>
> Item Description:
> Operating and service manuals for HP 2100 minicomputer peripherials -
circa 1973
> 7900A Disc Drive - 1" thick, schematics, diagrams
> 7035B X-Y Recorder - spiral bound, photos, schematics
> 59301A ASCII to Parallel Converter - 40 pages
> 12539C Time Base Generator Interface Kit - TBG board for 2100
> 12531C Buffered Teleprinter Interface Kit - PCB for 2100, 2114, 2115, 2116
> 13181A Digital Magnetic Tape Unit. Interface kit PCB for 2100
> Essential for preserving historic computers.
> This auction is for these 6 manuals + 2 updates. No hardware is
included. Winner
> to pay shipping from 94043. Check my other auctions on eBay.
Hello -
Our department is telling me clean up. Some items that may be available
soon are:
hp 7550 plotter
sun sparc 1, 2 (all are B&W, most of the monitors are dim)
apple laserwriter II (some whole, some for parts)
apple/radius large screen monitors (condition: unknown)
calcomp 1039 plotters
The apple and sun items have seen heavy use. I don't have room and I
don't want to pitch them. I'd like to trade for single board computers
or hp integal options/accessories/manuals or ??? Worest case, just
offer shipping.
john
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I can't help when I drive down the street to stop and examine any computer
stuff I find on the curb. My kids get kind of irritated waiting in a running
car while I examine stuff..
Our lake community about every 3 years has a free drop-off for large trash.
I have picked up more "good stuff" than my wife will let me keep. I usually
volunteer so I can help unload and preselect any stuff before it goes in the
truck sized bins. Best find was a Toshiba 21" TV with a broken power cord.
Lots of old PS/2 and 286 machines and dot matrix printers.
The Kansas City surplus place fills bins with the following.
Bin #1 motherboards
Bin #2 fingerboards
Bin #3 power supplies
Bin #4 cables
I don't know where the documentation and media goes.
All of the cases go into the metal scrap bin. I have almost cried when I
find something really interesting as a case only in the metal scrap bin.
Mike
Hello,
Glad to find something besides friction that takes that white silicon grease
off things. A friend of mine calls it whale snot. I prefer the clear stuff
over the white glop anyday.
gary HIldebrand
Amigaphile
WA7KKP
scrounger 1st Class
