test-drb December 2000

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by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a lad with a complete Apple //e system including original boxes. Please contact him directly to arrange for an exchange. Reply-to: <krellan(a)krellan.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:35:30 -0800 From: JoSH Lehan <krellan(a)krellan.com> Subject: Apple //e Hi! My family has finally decommissioned our Apple //e that has served us well for 16 years. I am in the process now of transferring its disk images to PC. When I am done with it, I would love to donate the computer instead of just throwing it out. I have: * Apple //e (Enhanced, 128K), in original shipping box! * Two UniDisk disk drives, also in original shipping boxes! * Medium-sized box full of assorted documentation (game manuals, various books, etc.). * Lots of disk holders full of 5.25" disks (about 100-200 disks, total) Would you be interested in this? I also can get, but currently don't have in my possession: * Imagewriter I printer, also in original shipping box * Color Apple monitor, also in original shipping box All this equipment works fine, it's just old and is taking up space here. I'd like to keep it myself, but don't have the space. Would you be interested in it? Josh Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

24 years, 1 month

CAMAC stuff for sale

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I am currently negotiating to buy some Multibus stuff from a gentleman named Anton Auersperg (If anyone else has any Multibus items, please let me know). He asked me to post his list of CAMAC stuff to the list, to see if anyone was interested in it (I am not). Please contact him directly at antall(a)dsuper.net for more details, or to close the deal. He is located in Montreal, Canada. Here's the list: CAMAC system equipment available (Computer Automated Measurement and Control) IEEE 583 qty description 1 Standard Engineering Corporation (S.E.C.) Ultima 3742F CAMAC powered crate; 19" rack mount chassis, 25 slot 1 S.E.C. MIK-11/23 microcomputer system, 16 bit LSI 11/23 (DEC PDP11) supports RT-11 and RSX-11M operating system and all DEC PDP-11 software 2 S.E.C. 300220 MIK-11 memory module 1 S.E.C. peripheral adaptor 1 Data Systems Design DSD-880 data storage; combination winchester and 8" floppy disk drives, 7.8Mb fixed, 1Mb removable 1 S.E.C. E260 8 channel digital to analog converter, 12 bit resolution 1 S.E.C. RTC-018 real time clock, with functions for counting, timing and clocking 1 S.E.C. AR302E isolated input register, 16 optically isolated inputs 1 S.E.C. ORR-12 reed relay contact closure, 12 isolated dry-reed relays 1 S.E.C. IG-604 dual 24-bit interrupt gate; for scanning 48 external inputs for status change, eliminates software scanning 1 GEC IGOR 160206 input gate output register module; general purpose input/output register 1 GEC PAD 160404 32 channel differential input, precision A/D converter; 16 bit resolution, 14 bit accuracy 1 GEC PCI 160901 programmable communications interface; 2 comm ports, either RS232 or RS422 c/w Z80,memory,real-time clock etc. 2 GEC SMC 160303 stepping motor controller 1 GEC SPO 160203 dual 16 bit status in and 8 bit pulse output module 1 Fisher controls ltd. ADC1232-1 32 channel differential input A/D converter 12 bit resolution. 1 Bi-Ra model 32222 dual 24 bit parallel output register module. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- The following literature is available: 1 Data systems design inc. DSD 880x/8 user's guide. with bootable diagnostic diskette. 1 Digital equipment corp. DR11-C general device interface user's manual. 1 Digital equipment corp. LA 120 user guide (decwriter) 1 Digital equipment corp. M8063 SBC-11/21 single board computer user's guide. 2 Digital equipment corp. TECO pocket guide. 3 Digital equipment corp. PDP11 programming card. 2 Digital equipment corp. RT-11 pocket guide. 1 Digital equipment corp. VT55 programming manual (shrink wrapped fresh). 1 SEC MIK-11/23 system manual volume 1. 1 SEC MIK-11/23 system manual volume 2. (drawings) 1 SEC E-260 voltage/current DAC. 1 SEC Ultima 3742F CAMAC powered crate. (drawings) 1 SEC PDP-11/CAMAC support library M 106060 Rev.B volume 2. 1 SEC RTC-018 Real time clock. 1 SEC ORR-12 reed relay module. 1 SEC IG-604 dual 24-bit interrupt gate. 1 SEC WW-006 prototype module. 1 SEC AR 302/E. 1 SEC user's guide to the QUANTROL system. 1 SEC PAB-11 peripheral adaptor. 1 GEC introduction to the CAMAC dataway. 1 GEC IGOR 160206 technical manual. 1 GEC PAD 160404 technical manual.(with schematic blueprint) 1 GEC PAD 160901 technical manual. 2 GEC REB 160905 rigid extender board technical manual. 5 GEC TPM 160805 analog signal conditioning module technical manual. 1 GEC SPO 160203 technical manual. 2 GEC SMC 160303 technical manual. 1 Fisher controls ADC 1232-1 instruction manual 1 BiRa systems inc. model 3222 dual 24 bit parallel output register schematic blue print only. Thanks! Rich B.

24 years, 1 month

Archiving Amiga floppies

by rachael_＠gmx.net

>I'd like to archive my massive collection of Amiga floppies. >I have tubs and tubs of them. I'd like to end up with >CD-Rs of them, containing disk images accessible under >emulation or that could re-create floppies on demand. >I'm so out of touch with what's possible on the Amiga, >I don't know which tool would best handle the job. It depends if its orginal programs with protection or its cracked copies. If you want to backup orginals you`ll have to use a warper, it reads the raw MFM data of the tracks and stores that. Otherwise just download http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/aminet/util/sys/Dev-Handler.lha and install it, after you have mountet DEV: you can do a simple copy dev:df0 dh0:MyGame.adf, it will now make a sector image of the floppy that you can use with UAE and it is easy to transfere it back to a disk. Or get http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/aminet/disk/misc/adfblitzer.lha it is the same, just it has a gui. Regards Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

24 years, 1 month

RX02 drive emulation

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

-----Original Message----- From: David Gesswein <djg(a)drs-esg.com> >>Do look. the two are very different. >> >I don't know if anybody is still interested... >I scanned the RX02 technical manual and it is now online >http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8cgi/query_docs/view.pl?table=pdp8docs&id=139 The RX28 added DMA, the RX02 drives while the same physical disk drive (bare) the two controller cards are very different. The older RX01 used TTL of the 7489 and 74181 for its controller while the later RX02 was 2901/2911 based. Allison

24 years, 1 month

UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jerome Fine <jhfine(a)idirect.com> >Having never used Pascal very much, I have not followed this thread very well, >but I can comment on this question. RT-11 does not normally distinguish >between different devices. If the RX50 is DU0:, then the command: >ASSIGN DU0: DK: True for RT11. UCSD P-system is NOT RT11 nor does it use it, it is a stand alone OS with embedded applications and it's own menu driven UI.

24 years, 1 month

Why is it that ...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

-----Original Message----- From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Why is it that ... >In <003101c05b2b$7bac3aa0$2d799a8d@ajp166>, on 12/01/00 > at 08:56 AM, "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> said: > >You mean I was supposed to PAY for all those copies of Mbasic?! According to Billy G we all stole it. Mine was the $$$+memory for altair deal followed by another 75$ for a working copy (update!). MS compiled basic for CP/M as memory serves was either 350$ or 500$US and it was buggy. >Cbasic is ok, but I can't stand writing without an interpreter. Cbasic was pretty neat as was S-basic. Allison

24 years, 1 month

Archiving Amiga floppies

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > At 11:16 AM 11/30/00 -0800, you wrote: > >This reminds me - does anyone here have an ethernet card that would work > >in an Amiga 2000? I've got one I'd like to put on the 'net. > > The last time I checked, Amiga ethernet cards were quite expensive still, > though things could've changed in a year since I moved off an Amiga 4000 to > my Power Mac clone. If you have a bridgeboard though and a PC ISA ethernet > card, there used to be a couple of programs on Aminet that would allow you > to access the ISA ethernet card from the Amiga side. It was a bit of a > kludge, but was reported to have worked. I still have new, in-the-box GG2 Bus+ bridge cards w/original warranty. They come with NE2000 drivers (along with other, non-NIC drivers) but there are also SMC/WesternDigital drivers on the web page (http://penguincentral.com/GG2/) I've mentioned it before to no great response, but I like to let people know there's still an alternative out there. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

24 years, 1 month

Hyperion manuals

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Hello, Now that I'm moved and somewhat settled in, I thought now would be a good time to ask this. I have a couple of extra manuals for the Dynalogic Hyperion. I believe I have two extra User's manuals and one extra Porgrammer's manual. They are the standard 3 ring binder in the heavy cardboard slipcase of the period. If anyone has a need for them, drop me a note. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Power Computing PowerCurve, 288mhz G3, Mac OS 9 http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 Home Of The TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ

24 years, 1 month

GG2 Bus+ (was Re: Archiving Amiga floppies)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > At 03:06 PM 11/30/00 -0800, you wrote: > >I still have new, in-the-box GG2 Bus+ bridge cards w/original warranty. > They come with NE2000 drivers (along with other, non-NIC drivers) but there > are also SMC/WesternDigital drivers on the web page > >(http://penguincentral.com/GG2/) > > Hi Ethan, > > That's pretty cool...I don't remember seeing anything on those before. It's been around for a long time. My first ISA bridge for the Amiga was "The Wedge" - IIRC, about $200-something in 1987 - 8-bit only with drivers for only the WesternDigital WX-1 and clones. I got an ST-225 w/Everex WX-1 card (larger than the real thing, unfortunately, because it was hanging off the side of the Amiga and blocked the mouse port - I had to make an extension cable). It was about 200kb/sec because the 8Mhz 68K was wheezing along doing 8-bit PIO. I put together a 20Mb disk solution for $500 out-of-pocket when a CLtd. SCSI system was ~$1000. Think about that compared to today - $50 per meg! After that came the Golden Gate II Bridge Card by David Salomon. When he graduated in 1994, he put up the designs and manufacturing rights for sale; I bought them. The part that keeps this on topic is that while the card is <10 years old, it goes in Amiga 2000s, Amiga 3000s, etc., from 1990 and before. > How much do they generally go for? $99.95, MSRP. I'll throw in free ground shipping as a bonus to anyone on the list (and an ISA NIC while my limited supplies last). Blank boards and a parts list are $10 plus shipping (got more than I'll ever make). > I was referring to some of the shareware stuff on Aminet that had a driver > actually running on the Bridgeboard CPU, passing stuff from it to the Amiga > side. The extra layer seemed to slow it down a little but it was a viable > alternative for those that had the Bridgeboards and a cheap ISA NIC card. Right. I knew about that but I never tried it either. I have a couple of A2088 bridge cards but not enough time to fiddle with it. > ...I already had full slots with my GVP Spectrum, DKB SCSI board and Emplant > Deluxe. That's been the problem lately - most Amiga power users who want networking have already filled their machines. A two-slot Ethernet solution isn't viable for someone willing to drop the money for networking in the first place. > I always like my various Amiga's....it's too bad that even the A4000 > would no longer meet my needs for an 'everyday' machine. Browsing and watching mpegs are why my A4000 is no longer my everyday machine. I used to read news, write code, do e-mail, etc., all from my A1000 (then A3000, then A4000) from 1986 through about 1997 or so. I am ashamed to admit that I just don't use my Amiga much anymore. I suppose Linux hacking has displaced that sector of my time. It's a pity; they were *fun* machines. I spent a lot of time writing code and fiddling with the hardware (my A1000 has a Rejuvinator, a Spirit Inboard, a Starboard and a ROM switcher - OS1.3 and OS2.x, 5Mb RAM, SCSI - about as far as you can take it without adding slots). -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

24 years, 1 month

PCC2000 Rescue

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, Meant to put this in the last post, but..... Anton Auersperg, antall(a)dsuper.net, also has a PCC2000, headed for the scrap heap. He describes it thusly: It's a desktop unit with 12" screen and 2 8"drives. I think its Z80 and runs wordstar. It weighs over 100lbs. It's already in my truck headed for the scrap heap. I don't have any software for it. Is it worth saving? It has 2 key buttons missing, the bottom and side at the back is a little rusty. Anyone want it? Please contact him directly.... Rich B.

24 years, 1 month

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