Mike --
Thanks for the very helpful information about this drive. The
"documentation" consists of a user's manual with no technical data. The
connector on the TS2068 version is different than what you describe but
otherwise it seems the same.
There were actually two versions for the TS2068, each using a slightly
different tape. Both types seem to be equally unreliable. The tapes
self-destruct if you look at them the wrong way.
In fact, these are absolutely the crappiest storage devices I have ever seen
used on any computer.
Any challengers for worst storage device?
Glen Goodwin
0/0
> In most of the US, putting "engineer" near your name doesn't require that
> you hold an engineering certification. For instance, my official title
> at my day job is "senior software engineer" but I've never taken a single
> software nor engineering course, much less certification exam, in my life.
False. In most states of the U.S., if you represent yourself as an engineer
of any kind, and you are not a licensed engineer, you are committing a
crime,
albeit a misdemeanor.
Texas is leading the nation in trying to change this.
-dq
Just having a moment of nostalgia here..
Anyone remember having a multi-player D&D/MUD like game dial-up
service in their city? I'm thinking around 1985 or earlier... it was
some sort of a timeshare system with 8/16/24 ports that people could
dial in to at an hourly rate and play. As I recall it was some sort of
franchise and we had one here in Milwaukee (414 area code) that was
quite popular- I believe it was called Sceptre, but I'm not sure if that
was the name of the game/world/town, etc.
Just wondering what kind of hardware & software was hosting this game;
it was quite addictive (or perhaps I was mesmerized by trying to use an
80-column terminal on a C64).
Thanks,
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Just set up #classic_computers so a few of us from another channel could
talk classics without getting kicked for being OT. Drop by if you'd like
to join in.
If there's enough interest, I'll keep the channel active for a while.
dalnet, #classic_computers
David Wollmann, aka 'converter'
converter(a)dalnet-perl.org
Greetings:
Anyone have operating and maintenance info for CDC/Seagate ST82500N
'Sabre' SCSI drive? This unit is a module about two feet long
and has a hex keypad and display front panel and beaucoup dip
switches and jumpers on various boards. It is also tagged
'PA8U1B'. The HDA uses 8in media (19 physical heads); the entire
unit includes locking pins at the rear for a drive bay, and weighs
about fifty pounds (includes integral power supply). The previous
owner (a large firm) did not remember it's original application but
instead used it as the only drive on a Sun 470 (and didn't remember
how it was physically mounted).
It works and we can extract data from it, but it is set to target 0
and we must change that; also the front panel controls allow for
various reconfigurations and tests; we'd like to know those too.
We'd like to know which computers included this drive as an option;
certain VAXen for sure but what about CRAY, CDC, SGI, etc?
Thanks,
Michael Grigoni
Cybertheque Museum
The key ingredient here, is that the data are stored on several
hard drives...as I replace hard drives, there is a folder in
each called "archive", which collects the info from the previous
hard drive...and this archive folder is also copied to other
computers via the lan.
I wound't trust anything to only one copy, be it on a hard
drive, floppy, cd, tape cartridge, or even a book stored in the
basement :)
Jim
Sellam Wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, J Forbes wrote:
>
> > It seems to me that nowadays we buy new hard drives with a few
> > times more capacity every year or two. We also have several
> > computers, many networked (at home, this is).
> >
> > I think that we may just keep all the info on hard drives, with
> > an occasional CD-R backup, and it will get duplicated so many
> > times over the years that we would be hard pressed to lose any
> > data.
>
> And then one day the box it's stored in gets bumped a little too hard, or
> when you try to fire it up in ten years something on it blows, or...?
>
> I can think of worse ways to archive data, but I wouldn't want to trust
> anything long term to a hard drive. Unless you kept the data "alive"
> meaning you kept it stored on a computer that is constantly being
> backed-up and in service.
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
On December 8, Megan wrote:
> >I remeber reading that a hologram of a lens would refract light in the
> >same was as a real lens would. This concept has formed the basis for
> >the flight-of-fancy holodeck/holosuite concept from Star Trek.
>
> <ot>
> The holodeck supposedly uses both hologram projectors and transporter
> technology... I suspect it should also use shield technology, too...
> </ot>
The Trek world's holodecks don't have anything at all to do with
holographic lens technology. They use a combination of holography
(for background scenes and "wall extension") and transporter-style
matter synthesis for "solid" objects.
Yes, though, holographic lenses do work, are in widespread use, and
have been around for quite some time.
The most recent consumer application for them jumped out at me at a
hamfest last summer. Some guy had dozens of cases of new, really
cheap & cheesy handheld laser pointers. The more expensive ones (like
$8 instead of $5) came with these little interchangeable "caps" that
you could screw over the beam exit end. These different caps
contained holographic lenses which would project different patterns or
pictures or whatever on whatever you pointed it at.
Yes, there are some of those things on the market that simply
contain a piece of what looks like miniature slide film...but if you
look around, you can find the ones with the holographic lenses. They
kinda look like plastic diffraction gratings when viewd in normal
light.
-Dave McGuire
I believe the order-of-magnitude knowledge was very necessary if you used a
slide rule. Since the slide rule allowed you to compute the significant
digits the operator had to know the order of magnitude. I graduated from
college before handheld/battery calculators. My physics/calculus class was
more how to write the equation and derive an approximate answer than a
specific answer.
My grandfather gave be a slide rule when I was in 4th grade, 1962.
Slide rule battery never runs down.
Slide rule can be used to scrape ice off windshield.
Slide rule doesn't mind hot and cold temperature.
Slide rule also visible in direct sun light.
My kids don't understand why approximations and knowing the
order-of-magnitude are useful. Very useful for determining the expected
cost of gas when filling up. Also useful for mowing, raking leaves, hauling
dirt, sailing, flying and buying groceries.
Of course I also worked for my grandfather in an orchard selling apples, no
cash register just a cigar box and a coffee can for the tax, 3 cents on the
dollar. If you couldn't figure the bill and the tax in your head you were
useless.
"Being comfortable with math is a way of life and an attitude"
Mike McFadden
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:01:37 -0600 (CST) Dan Linder <dlinder(a)uiuc.edu>
writes:
> I think in "Youngster Lingo" (tm) "ROMs" = "Games" due to the
> popularity
> of NES, etc, emulators, people go looking for "ROMs" instead of
> Games -
> it's sort of like "warez". :)
>
> - Dan
I always thought the sort that would go looking for 'warez' would
be on the hunt for 'ROMz' . . .
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