I assume your netmasks are 255.255.255.0, and you don't have a default
gateway set?
Could also be bad cable, hub, etc...
What about other traffic of a tcp nature rather than udp - such as telnet,
ftp, etc... of course making sure these services are enabled in inetd.conf
(followed by a sighup to inetd)?
Are you sure the ip information is really set on the sun (ie. what does
ifconfig -a show, is the interface marked up, etc.?)??
Jay West
-----Original Message-----
From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Semi-OT: routing
>At 05:27 PM 8/3/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>I'm trying to network my SparcII to my p166 running Linux (and ultimately
>>my VAXstation and Sun 3/60). No matter how hard I try or which
>>configurations I use, I can't ping from my Sparc [196.168.1.2] to my p166
>>[192.168.1.1]. I dropped a Win98 box on the network and set it up as
>>192.168.1.3. I could ping ...2 but not ...3. I could ping ...3 from ...2.
>>But neither box is talking to ...1.
>
>Sounds like a bad cable or hub. Which cable type are you using?
>
>- John
>
>
This is only semi-ot because it involves my SparcII, which I can't seem to
find the date on right now, but I'm pretty sure it meets the requirement.
At any rate, please contact me off-list to avoid cluttering it up.
I'm trying to network my SparcII to my p166 running Linux (and ultimately
my VAXstation and Sun 3/60). No matter how hard I try or which
configurations I use, I can't ping from my Sparc [196.168.1.2] to my p166
[192.168.1.1]. I dropped a Win98 box on the network and set it up as
192.168.1.3. I could ping ...2 but not ...3. I could ping ...3 from ...2.
But neither box is talking to ...1. I know it works because the ethernet
card is configured in the kernel, I see it get recognized at boot up, I
can set the IP with ifconfig. I've read all my books about it, the man
pages, the NETWORKING-HOWTO and the Ethernet-HOWTO as well as asking in
#linux on effnet. This is a last resort.
Thanks,
Kevin
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"It's you isn't it? THE BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL!"
"In the flesh, on the phone and in your account..."
-- BOFH #3
My apologies, folks . . . this one's clearly misrouted.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
>Since I have their latest CD, I have all the data sheets. What I'm after
is
>the information about the logic cell resources, clock drivers, routing
>resources, etc, generic to each family and not specific to a given device.
>The individual sheets seldom have that data.
>
>regards,
>
>Dick
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:11 AM
>Subject: Re: (no subject)
>
>
>>> > A 99/4A can range from USD 2,- (just the unit in used condition)
>>> > up to USD 30-70 (New, unused, original packed, never opened with
>>> > no damages on the box). PS: The white units may score way higher
>>
>>> Hans, I don't know about you wacky Germans, but any American paying
>>> USD$30-70 for a TI-99/4a in ANY condition would be a fool and a half.
>>> Maybe if it was gold plated, or the President used it to fondle an
>intern,
>>> then maybe. But I just passed up on two TI-99/4a's in the box without
>>> even a second thought.
>>
>>> New, unused, original packaging and never opened with no damage to the
>box
>>> is not hard to find (ok, except for "never opened", but still). Maybe
>>> USD$10-$25.
>>
>>Just catch the next for me (never opened!)
>>
>>TI wasn't the real big thing over here.
>>
>>> > in Europe, since they never where sold in masses over here. PPS:
>>> > a Ti 99/4 (no A) will also range higher, especialy when in mint/
>>> > unused condition.
>>
>>> I just paid $90 for future reference. A bit more than I wanted to pay
>but
>>> then how many 99/4's does one come across? In my experience of
>collecting
>>> for many years, the answer is not many at all.
>>
>>USD 90,- is quite high - it may need a second thought.
>>
>>> > A Timex/Sinclair may earn you USD 2-5 (used, with PS) or score
>>> > a whooping USD 50,- as a new never opened box.
>>
>>> Repeat same discussion as above. You can buy new ZX-81's from that
zebra
>>> website for US$29 or whatever it is.
>>
>>Well, you might notice, in both cases that the high prices
>>are ment for top notch stuff, and, as my mother said:
>>Every day a dumb one lifts his head - you just have to catch him...
>>(As I have seen the original question was about for what he might
>>sell his stuff (jep, of course, take an auction (rarerarerare:)))
>>
>>Gruss
>>H.
>>
>>--
>>Stimm gegen SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/de/
>>Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/en/
>>Votez contre le SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/fr/
>>Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
>>HRK
>
I do not like this VMS. I like RSX and RT, but not VMS. First of all,
it's running on a 32-bit machine and it isn't UNIX. That's just
offensive. Then, second, it won't let me log in because I don't remember
any of the passwords. I even tried the boot/r5:1 and uafalternate thing,
but it still won't let me type in bogus login info. What a pain.
If anyone knows how to get around this, please mail me back. I have a
really important file on this silly vax and need to save it on a machine
that I do backups on regularly. Then I'll be free to run NetBSD. Instead
of that dumb VMS.
;^)
jake
Since I have their latest CD, I have all the data sheets. What I'm after is
the information about the logic cell resources, clock drivers, routing
resources, etc, generic to each family and not specific to a given device.
The individual sheets seldom have that data.
regards,
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
>> > A 99/4A can range from USD 2,- (just the unit in used condition)
>> > up to USD 30-70 (New, unused, original packed, never opened with
>> > no damages on the box). PS: The white units may score way higher
>
>> Hans, I don't know about you wacky Germans, but any American paying
>> USD$30-70 for a TI-99/4a in ANY condition would be a fool and a half.
>> Maybe if it was gold plated, or the President used it to fondle an
intern,
>> then maybe. But I just passed up on two TI-99/4a's in the box without
>> even a second thought.
>
>> New, unused, original packaging and never opened with no damage to the
box
>> is not hard to find (ok, except for "never opened", but still). Maybe
>> USD$10-$25.
>
>Just catch the next for me (never opened!)
>
>TI wasn't the real big thing over here.
>
>> > in Europe, since they never where sold in masses over here. PPS:
>> > a Ti 99/4 (no A) will also range higher, especialy when in mint/
>> > unused condition.
>
>> I just paid $90 for future reference. A bit more than I wanted to pay
but
>> then how many 99/4's does one come across? In my experience of
collecting
>> for many years, the answer is not many at all.
>
>USD 90,- is quite high - it may need a second thought.
>
>> > A Timex/Sinclair may earn you USD 2-5 (used, with PS) or score
>> > a whooping USD 50,- as a new never opened box.
>
>> Repeat same discussion as above. You can buy new ZX-81's from that zebra
>> website for US$29 or whatever it is.
>
>Well, you might notice, in both cases that the high prices
>are ment for top notch stuff, and, as my mother said:
>Every day a dumb one lifts his head - you just have to catch him...
>(As I have seen the original question was about for what he might
>sell his stuff (jep, of course, take an auction (rarerarerare:)))
>
>Gruss
>H.
>
>--
>Stimm gegen SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/de/
>Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/en/
>Votez contre le SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/fr/
>Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
>HRK
Yes. That's the reason it was so popular with certain government agencies
when I worked in the Military/Industrial complex. VMS was multi-level
secure while UNIX, at least then, was full of holes.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Strickland <jim(a)calico.litterbox.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: DUMB VMS!
>Um, while I fail to understand why VMS is dumb for not letting you in
without
>the right passwords, I realise that's not very helpful to you. :) Hit the
>web page at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/2956/data.htm
>and search for the word "password". It lists the procedure.
>
>And at the risk of starting a religious war between the VMS folk and the
>unix folk, let me say just that VMS and Unix are good at different things.
>VMS is much much more secure than unix, and has far greater ability to give
>users *some* privilages without giving them *everything*. This is valuable
>in some circumstances. Unix probably does get better overall performance
>for the same hardware because it doesn't have this security overhead, among
>other things.
>
>
>Hope this helps.
>-jim
>
>>
>> I do not like this VMS. I like RSX and RT, but not VMS. First of all,
>> it's running on a 32-bit machine and it isn't UNIX. That's just
>> offensive. Then, second, it won't let me log in because I don't remember
>> any of the passwords. I even tried the boot/r5:1 and uafalternate thing,
>> but it still won't let me type in bogus login info. What a pain.
>>
>> If anyone knows how to get around this, please mail me back. I have a
>> really important file on this silly vax and need to save it on a machine
>> that I do backups on regularly. Then I'll be free to run NetBSD.
Instead
>> of that dumb VMS.
>>
>> ;^)
>>
>> jake
>>
>
>
>--
>Jim Strickland
>jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> BeOS Powered!
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>offensive. Then, second, it won't let me log in because I don't remember
>any of the passwords. I even tried the boot/r5:1 and uafalternate thing,
>but it still won't let me type in bogus login info. What a pain.
>If anyone knows how to get around this, please mail me back.
You want to read the OpenVMS FAQ (see
http://www.openvms.digital.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html
), specifically "MGMT5. I've forgotten the SYSTEM password - what can I do?".
It walks you through step-by-step, and best of all tells you how to
do it without UAFALTERNATE set to 1.
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
Wow, this is right from TI's web site:
http://www.ti.com/calc/docs/994a.htm
They even refer you to a fan website.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out.
Coming this October 2-3: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0!
See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details!
[Last web site update: 05/25/99]
Ok, I don't know if anyone else has ever seen this, but check out this web
site:
http://www.whtech.com/ti/
These guys are selling new TI 99/4a products. Ever heard of a SCSI
adaptor for the 99/4a? This site has one! They used to have a product to
hook an AT keyboard up to the TI.
Pretty interesting.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out.
Coming this October 2-3: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0!
See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details!
[Last web site update: 05/25/99]
> Ok, here's something very cool as far as IBM PC artifacts go. Its an "IBM
> TPC 4 System Unit" (the model is 4459). Its a tempested PC! Its
I don't remember the 4459 but I do remember seeing an IBM Tempest PC when I was
working at IBM as a pre-university student. Very solid panels that all screwed
into place, rather than the pressed sheet metal around three sides. I also
recall filter components between connnectors on the back panel and the cards /
motherboard ports to which they belonged. These all went in a cavity about 1.5
inches deep between the rear of the PC chassis and the actual back panel.
Philip.
