I have a (yea, nice, broad, vague) question...
Are the IBM/XT, IBM/AT and PS/2 computers hardware Y2K compliant? I'm not
really into the old Clone machines, and don't really know... (and
personally I couldn't care -- but we had a customer ask about them and I
could really use an answer...)
Anyway, there are many folks on this list more intelligent than me, and
figured this is the quickest way I could get an intelligent answer to my
foolish question. ;-) If no-one else is interested in this discussion, I'd
be happy to take it to email only.
Thanks for any help y'all can provide,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
The current useage of hacker now is not the same as say 1984 and very
different fro the 1975 thinking. It's evolutionary term. It's gone from
a term that more about exprimentation and intutive design to a very negative
pastime.
Allison
Hi Tony,
>....Research Machines (a UK computer company who sold
>machines for schools mostly) made a 80186 version of the
>Nimbus.
They certainly did, we still had a bunch of them at East B'Ham College when I
worked there in '97.
Mind you we also had a bunch of Beebs and some Apple ][s...!!
TTFN - Pete.
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I just called timeline... The information they supplied
me is as follows... This is a 2 card cable-connected
set; One card is labeled IBM XT 1602509, The other
is labeled IBM AT 6236115. No software was available
for the cardset. They also suggested that
I call back later (when someone with a technical
background would be available...) If I find out more,
I'll drop the list a note...
If anyone on the list happens to have the 370 emulator
cardset, it would be nice if they could check out the
part numbers.
BTW, they also indicated that they had quite a few
of these available.
-al
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Franke [mailto:Hans.Franke@mch20.sbs.de]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 10:14 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: AT/370 and XT/370
>
>
> > Just browsing through my browser bookmarks, as you do, I came across
> > this:
>
> > "IBM 370 option XT and AT emulation boards $25.00 "
>
> > at
>
> > <http://www.digisys.net/timeline/blowout.html>
>
> > Are these the real thing?
>
> If anybody can veryfy this, I want one!
>
> Gruss
> h.
>
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O.K.
I think that sorta clears things up a bit. I guess my little 'direct modem'
could be considered a hardware hack.
Although, don't hacks usually work?? :)
///--->>>
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(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
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You wouldn't want to guess what I found in the basement behind the washing
machine, yesterday, would you?
I think a few of the screws are missing, along with the power supply (which
was a BOSCHERT switcher) which is what I was scanvenging when I last looked
at the thing.
If you want it, I can arrange to send it to you. (the 3COM server with the
'186 running it, I mean.)
regards,
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey L Kaneko <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: 186 (was: CompuGraphics Question)
>On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:49:28 +1 "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
>writes:
>> 186 ? Interesting ... it seams that there are way more 186 beaste
>> than I have asumed... This could be a collecting theme on their own.
>
>You bet! There are at least two more '186 machines nobody mentioned.
>ANyone remember the MAD 186? It was kinda like a mindset, but the
>innards were different. TELEX also marketed a rebadged version of the
>MAD computer-- the TELEX 1186. I used to have one of these (I think
>I still have the PSU/FDD unit around here someplace).
>
>Two more rarely seen machines are the 3Com 3Server, and 3Server3's.
>They both used 80186 CPU's (some guy at 3Com explained that they
>used it because the chips built-in dual DMAC's gave good disk I/O
>performance).
>
>Anyways, these beasts used a highly customized version of MS-dos,
>which ran 3Com's LAN software. They were strictly servers-- these
>things had no on-board video; you had to use a terminal to see what was
>going on, if it refused to boot (which was often). It was a seriously
>cool
>box in 1986. I still have the software for it around here someplace . .
>.
>
>I'm sorry I scrapped mine in 1993.
>
>Jeff
>
>>
>> Gruss
>> H.
>>
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In a message dated 8/4/99 9:25:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
dastar(a)ncal.verio.com writes:
>
> Other 80186 computers include:
>
Tandy 2000 I believe.
Many, many of intel's early Multibus I cards used the 186 & 188 chips, either
as a processor or peripheral support.
Paxton
I need the following word defined/confirmed....
Hacker
According to my dictionary, 'hack' means "to chop with exceptional force",
"a violent cough", or "a horse let out out for common hire"...
Same dictionary... 'hacker' "one who hacks" (no - really?....), or 'a person
who is inexperienced or unskilled at a particular activity' example is "A
Polo hacker".
I wonder which antique store I bought that dictionary from... :)
Here's my definition: "One who adapts an existing piece of computer (or
other type) of hardware to suit one's needs or to improve it without
instruction from the original manufacturer."
I also thought that the people who screwed with viruses and software and
such were "crackers" (which my dictionary describes as a 'dry, thin bread
substance").
Am I right? or am I just blowing smoke?
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
PS>> The reason I wanted to know was because I was going to make a web page
on a couple of old serial cards that I'm making into direct-connect modems
to use on a few computer that don't have HD's, and I'm just not sure what it
would be classified as!
Hi!
Does anyone have the pinouts of both a a 25-pin and a 9-pin serial
connection?
I need to know which pins on the 9-pin correspond to the pins of the 25 pin.
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:49:28 +1 "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
writes:
> 186 ? Interesting ... it seams that there are way more 186 beaste
> than I have asumed... This could be a collecting theme on their own.
You bet! There are at least two more '186 machines nobody mentioned.
ANyone remember the MAD 186? It was kinda like a mindset, but the
innards were different. TELEX also marketed a rebadged version of the
MAD computer-- the TELEX 1186. I used to have one of these (I think
I still have the PSU/FDD unit around here someplace).
Two more rarely seen machines are the 3Com 3Server, and 3Server3's.
They both used 80186 CPU's (some guy at 3Com explained that they
used it because the chips built-in dual DMAC's gave good disk I/O
performance).
Anyways, these beasts used a highly customized version of MS-dos,
which ran 3Com's LAN software. They were strictly servers-- these
things had no on-board video; you had to use a terminal to see what was
going on, if it refused to boot (which was often). It was a seriously
cool
box in 1986. I still have the software for it around here someplace . .
.
I'm sorry I scrapped mine in 1993.
Jeff
>
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> H.
>
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