Hi all
Yesterday evening a friend gave me a new toy. Hp85, which is a
strange looking computer. Four slots at the back, and I have
five cards to plug in there:
82939A Serial I/F
82940A GP-IO I/F
82903A 16K memory module (8x4116 inside)
82909A 128K memory module (16x4164 inside)
82936A Rom Drawer containing 3 roms,
00085-15001 Mass Storage
00085-15002 Plotter/Printer
00085-15003 Input/Output
I havn't powered the thing up yet, but apparently it runs BASIC. It
has a printer and what looks like a tape slot.
I'm sure one of you can tell me more... :-)
Thanks
Wouter
I just received an original 8k (7167 bytes free in BASIC)
Commodore PET 2001. The one with the cassette deck next to
the calculator keyboard. Checked it out and it runs great! Some of
the keys are not responding but the owner had added a regular
keyboard external to it which seems to be working fine. I tested it
with the same program I use to enter into the Pet in the stores
when I first saw them:
10 PRINT "BUY AN APPLE II"
20 GOTO 10
Ok, so I was a punk high school student at the time. :-)
This came as part of 5 huge boxes of old computer equipment.
Including an XOR S-100 CP/M system with lots of software on 8"
floppies (including Turbo-PASCAL for CP/M-80), manuals, etc. A
TI-99/4A in original box (good shape too), a Bendix Terminal and a
Bendix LogicPort. And all just for the cost of shipping. This is
cool. The Pet and the CP/M system were the big things for me. I
haven't looked at anything other than the Pet yet. Lots to sort
through and check out. Also received an Interact computer for
shipping cost from someone else. This also with an extra external
keyboard hack. I'll get pictures up soon! Computer heaven! :-)
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David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
On Wednesday, June 09, 1999 1:47 PM, Lee Courtney [SMTP:leec@slip.net]
wrote:
> Hi Steve et al,
>
> I have several 7937 (HP internal codename Eagle) drives connected to an
> HP3000 with 2 still working, 1 dead, 1 limping along. My CE told me that
> these drives don't like to be turned off for 'extended' periods of time
> as the lubricant for the drive bearings tends to loose its
> effectiveness. His advice was to keep em turned on and spun up all the
> time - use it or lose it approach.
I think mine were decomissioned about 18 months ago. Been running em for a
couple of days and they seem to be getting quieter. The spindle bearings in
one of them was screaming when I first turned it on but now it's getting
better. Of course this doesn't cure the data errors.
I probably wouldn't try to get any more of that type unless they're local.
Shipping would be pretty expensive on a drive that heavy. The shoebox one's
weigh 25 or 30 pounds. They're a lot more reasonable to ship.
If nothing else, the cabinet will make a nice coffee table :-)
Regards,
Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
Hi Steve et al,
I have several 7937 (HP internal codename Eagle) drives connected to an
HP3000 with 2 still working, 1 dead, 1 limping along. My CE told me that
these drives don't like to be turned off for 'extended' periods of time
as the lubricant for the drive bearings tends to loose its
effectiveness. His advice was to keep em turned on and spun up all the
time - use it or lose it approach.
HP is pulling the plug this year on the last OS release to support
Eagles, so they should start appearing in greater (and cheaper) numbers.
I have one customer who bought a truckload for their HP 3000 Series 70
(circa mid-80s) and just toss the drive and wheel in a "good" one when
they have a hardware problem, cheaper than HW support from HP.
Regards,
Lee Courtney
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I took a closer look at that HP1000 on ebay.
The guy sent me some better pictures of the unit. Just to let everyone know
here, this unit is obviously a highly modified OEM model. There are special
non-HP cards in places where there aren't supposed to be any cards - even HP
ones. The card cage itself is modified.
Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but I want to let folks know that the
standard HP1000 operating guide may not be much help with that system.
Jay West
> >
> > Before I can start the system in multiple user mode, I gotta figure out
a
> > fail safe way to change the ROOT password. According to the MAN pages,
you
> > gotta supply the current password if you use the "passwd" command. That
> > won't work because I don't know the current password. DOH!
>
> Actually, most versions of passwd bypass the request for the old password
> if you are running them as root. I'd try 'passwd root' and see what
happens.
>
I was able to create a new user through "sam" (HPUX system tool) with ROOT
privileges. Unfortunately, I cannot get the system to reboot reliably. Keep
getting HD errors.
Previously, the system was failing while running FSCK during the boot
process. At that point, it would drop me to a shell as ROOT. That's how I
was able to get in before.
Last night, I ran FSCK manually to fix the problems and it did recover the
cylinders on the disk. Now when it is booted, it doesn't fail the FSCK so,
it continues and fails at different point. It just keeps looping and saying
"error blah, blah, blah, PID 1 killed".
Haven't figured out a way around that one, YET! Might be able to pass a
parameter while booting that will cause a different boot behaviour?
Looks like I'll probably have to reinstall the OS from scratch. I don't
think there was any thing on the system that wouldn't be included in the OS
installation anyway. I ordered the FREE software upgrade (HPUX 9.0 to HPUX
10) from HP and hope to hear from them in the next few days. I just hope
it's on a medium that I can read.
I sorta goofed and only ordered a couple of licenses. Originally, the
system had 64!
I'll let you know what happens.
Anyone know where I can HPIB "shoebox" drive for this thing?
See Ya,
Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
Hi,
I picked up a Radius Pivot Precision Color 17 monitor today with both PC
and Mac cables. Does anyone know where I can get software to rotate the
picture on the CRT? I've looked all over Radius's site but can't find
any. I'm looking for software for both the PC and the Mac.
Joe
On 8 Jun 99 at 19:50, Joe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I picked up a Radius Pivot Precision Color 17 monitor today with both PC
> and Mac cables. Does anyone know where I can get software to rotate the
> picture on the CRT? I've looked all over Radius's site but can't find
> any. I'm looking for software for both the PC and the Mac.
A quick look at ftp://ftp.radius.com throws up *some* of the software
for older Radius hardware including Radiusware for NuBus/PCI Mac
video cards. A lot of drivers have disappeared recently, including
those for Radius Rocket accelerators.
Try:
ftp://radius.com/radius.mac/
Phil
**************************************************************
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University of Leicester
Tel (0)116 252-2231
E-Mail pb14(a)le.ac.uk
I am quite sure I have some cables here that I got from my DEC surplus bids.
Contact me off list with the details of you system and/or the part # you
need and I will check for you. I am usually able to get them new for $5 to
$15 depending on particular bid.
Dan
dburrows(a)netpath.net
danburrows(a)mindspring.com
-----Original Message-----
From: paul yaskowski <paul(a)paul.dragontear.org>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: VAXstation CDROM questions (again)
>* Zane H. Healy (healyzh(a)aracnet.com) [06.08.99 21:08]:
>> > Here's my question: I have a VAXstation 3100, and i'm interested in
>> >upgrading VMS. Currently it runs VMS 5.4. Since the VAX doesn't have
>> >a cdrom, and i'm assuming the cost of a DEC CDROM is outrageous (i'm
>> >15, give me a break.), I was wondering if there is a way to install
>> >from a network CDROM drive. Could I setup my Linux box to share it's
>> >CDROM via NFS? Or is there perhaps any software that would allow this?
>> >Or am I insane? The questions..
>>
>> Find a cheap 3rd party CD-ROM that supports 512-byte blocks, and you'll
>> hopefully be able to use it. I've used a 2x Mac CD-ROM, and a 4x
Panasonic
>> external on my 3100. I've used the same external and a 4x Toshiba on my
>> Alpha's. The important thing is it MUST suport 512-byte blocks, most PC
>> CD-ROM's support 2048-byte blocks.
>>
>> I got the 4x Toshiba for $15 used, as a price reference.
>
> Any idea where I could pick myself up one of those? The CDROM is not
>the only price factor that i'm worried about, it's also the external
>SCSI cable. I looked at a DEC SCSI cable that will fit into the back
>SCSI port, and it cost a mere $95. I'm running a incredibly tight
>budget, the story of a teenager's life, and $95 is simply out of the
>question.
>
>-paul
>
>--
> paul(a)paul.dragontear.org [a paradigm of a paramount failure]
>
<Actually, most versions of passwd bypass the request for the old password
<if you are running them as root. I'd try 'passwd root' and see what happens
For ULTRIX you can go Single user and "edit" the password to "" and then
the root password is null. The trick however is finding it and dealing
with ED. I believe this works with other versions of Unix too.
Allison
