I've been saving a couple of the 1050 chips, in that ultra-rare JECED 'C'
package for use as high-tech cuff-links to go with my i8008 tie-tack. I
surely liked that package better than the stupid, Stupid, STUPID one they
used for a number of 68-pin wonders including the 8018x and 80286. Of
course I could use a more up-to-date part, but why . . .
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: WD Chipset info (Was: Listserve Traffic)
>>
<snip>
>
>And others, like the 1050 SMD controller chip.
>
>-tony
>
I took two digital photos of my NEC PC-8001 expansion chassis. My
previous description of the unit was incorrect. The disk drives are
housed in a totally separate chassis. The actual expansion chassis
contains a slotted backplane so that expansion cards may be added to the
PC-8001.
The first picture shows the dual disk drive cabinet atop the 8012A I/O
Unit.
http://www.siconic.com/crap/8001exp1.jpg
The second picture shows the inside of the I/O expansion chassis (sorry
about the glare...this stupid camera doesn't have an option to turn off
the flash correctly, or stupid me forgot how to do it right). You can see
a RAM card plugged into the lower slot.
http://www.siconic.com/crap/8001exp2.jpg
The I/O unit has an external connector that the PC-8001 plugs into. It
has a second connector that plugs into the disk drive unit.
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Guys:
Is it just my imagination, or has traffic on this Mailing
List gone like, *way* down? I used to get upwards of 60+
messages a day, now I'm only getting less than half that.
????
Jeff
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A couple of things . . . first of all, the WD1100 came well before the 1010
which preceded the 2010 by about a year. All the information you need about
either of these chips is contained in the datasheet/appnote set published by
WD for their WD100x-0x series of controllers. Careful, now, because the
earlier controllers were different, i.e. the WD1000-55 came before the
WD1000-05. The '-55 was the one with the WD 5-chip chipset with various
designations, but accompanied by the 8X300 microcontroller.
There's a 1010 on nearly every one of the early PC/XT and PC/AT controllers.
The designation for one of the PC/XT controllers which was quite well
documented, was WD1002-WX2. There's nothing mysterious about these
controllers. They are dirt simple to program, to wit, I programmed the
things myself instead of having someone else do it. The device has a
"register file" which you must completely rewrite each time you issue a
command and it has a buffer which you must fill before writing and empty
after reading data and before checking status. The board has its own
counters which trigger the operation in question once you've performed the
requisite number of reads and writes. The 1015, by the way, is an 8041 (2)
with Western's code in it.
I have several different versions of this chip's application chipset, so
it's not easy to see what's what. One thing's for sure, though, and that's
that the 1010 definitely replaced the 5-chip set used on the 8X300-based
controllers.
The 2010 is an enhanced, error-correction-support-capable version of the
1010. It works more or less the same in other respects, but has a longer
correction code which makes it capable of more than just complaining there's
been an error.
I'll look around to see if I have anything beyond an old data book from
Western. I once kept all these devices' data sheets as though my life
depended on it, which it once did, more or less, . . . at least my diet . .
. , so I may actually still have them.
Western abruptly quit sending out data on the chips when they went from
supplier to competitor for those of us in the controller business. That
was, I believe, in about 1984.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey l Kaneko <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 10:26 AM
Subject: WD Chipset info (Was: Listserve Traffic)
>Guys:
>
>Well, actually, my concern was that maybe I'm not getting all of
>my mail (either that, of I've pissed off alot of people, and don't
>know why).
>
>Anyways, does anybody out there have a 'long form' spec/application
>sheet for the WD-2010 or the WD-1010 HDC chip? There is a 'short'
>(read: Incomplete) sheet in the old 1983 catalog, but it is missing
>some information.
>
>ALso, if someone has info on HDC devices made by WD after 1983
>(the WD-1100 comes to mind, for example), that would be appreciated
>also. Let me know what you got, and I will be happy to pay for
>postage & duplication (your $6.50 is in the mail Joe! :^) ).
>
>WD devices are as common as fleas on a dog, but docs seem to be
>rather scarce.
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>Jeff
>
>
>On Fri, 7 May 1999 15:05:58 +0100 Philip.Belben(a)pgen.com writes:
>>
>>
>> > Is it just my imagination, or has traffic on this Mailing
>> > List gone like, *way* down? I used to get upwards of 60+
>> > messages a day, now I'm only getting less than half that.
>>
>>
>> If you want more messages, here's another :-)
>>
>> In fact, I am still getting around 60 messages a day from Classiccmp
>> at the
>> moment, but this is a lot easier to cope with than the 100+ we had a
>> week or two
>> ago. Especially since my boss doesn't like me reading them in work
>> time (he's
>> off with a bad back today...)
>>
>> Philip.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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I would appreciate knowing of a few auction and classified ad
sites where I can pick up stuff for my Atari's, Commodores, etc.
You are really a helpful group of people. Maybe my little puters
will stay alive afterall. Thanks!
Stephanie sring(a)uslink.net
>Is it possible to make a bootable floppy for a VAXStation 2000 or is the
>system too large for the disk?
A VMS installation is way too large for a single floppy, of course.
I think a VMS distribution or backup onto floppies is about as cruel
as the Wagner ring cycle on 45's! But if you're into self-abuse
and huge piles of floppy disks, it is possible.
>If it is possible, what is the procedure?
It is possible, of course. Boot VMS, log in as the system manager,
and do a @SYS$UPDATE:STABACKIT to build the standalone backup tool
on floppies. You can then do a backup of the system disk onto floppies
(preferably using the STABACKIT kit you just generated to test your
copy of standalone backup). But if at all possible, get a tape drive!
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Guys:
Well, actually, my concern was that maybe I'm not getting all of
my mail (either that, of I've pissed off alot of people, and don't
know why).
Anyways, does anybody out there have a 'long form' spec/application
sheet for the WD-2010 or the WD-1010 HDC chip? There is a 'short'
(read: Incomplete) sheet in the old 1983 catalog, but it is missing
some information.
ALso, if someone has info on HDC devices made by WD after 1983
(the WD-1100 comes to mind, for example), that would be appreciated
also. Let me know what you got, and I will be happy to pay for
postage & duplication (your $6.50 is in the mail Joe! :^) ).
WD devices are as common as fleas on a dog, but docs seem to be
rather scarce.
Thanks!
Jeff
On Fri, 7 May 1999 15:05:58 +0100 Philip.Belben(a)pgen.com writes:
>
>
> > Is it just my imagination, or has traffic on this Mailing
> > List gone like, *way* down? I used to get upwards of 60+
> > messages a day, now I'm only getting less than half that.
>
>
> If you want more messages, here's another :-)
>
> In fact, I am still getting around 60 messages a day from Classiccmp
> at the
> moment, but this is a lot easier to cope with than the 100+ we had a
> week or two
> ago. Especially since my boss doesn't like me reading them in work
> time (he's
> off with a bad back today...)
>
> Philip.
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi all,
I know we already had a discussion on that topic but I can't remember what
was said since I was not too interested at the time.
Some of you mentioned that it was possible to restore "dead" batteries from
laptop. The ones in question are NiCads and very much dead as far as I can
tell.
Any info appreciated
Thanks
Francois
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> Is it just my imagination, or has traffic on this Mailing
> List gone like, *way* down? I used to get upwards of 60+
> messages a day, now I'm only getting less than half that.
If you want more messages, here's another :-)
In fact, I am still getting around 60 messages a day from Classiccmp at the
moment, but this is a lot easier to cope with than the 100+ we had a week or two
ago. Especially since my boss doesn't like me reading them in work time (he's
off with a bad back today...)
Philip.
The HP 700 series were/are graphical workstations. They are virtually
identical to the 800 series (the business servers) except they were
repackaged for the workstation market. Unix (HP-UX) OS. PA-RISC cpu's. Parts
of the 700 series might still be in production. Getting a power supply from
a scrap/surplus dealer wouldn't be all that easy, but not impossible. You
can probably still buy a power supply for it from HP.
Jay West
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 9:18 AM
Subject: HP700?
> I don't know how 'classic' this one is just yet, but...
>
> I came across a partly gutted HP700IL at my local used place yesterday. It
>was missing its power supply, but still had the CPU card. I took a look,
>and it looks like the heat sink was actually bolted to the CPU chip (a la
>the DEC Alphas).
>
> Is the unit worth grabbing? It looked kind of slick. How hard would it be
>to find a power module?
>
>Thanks...
>
>
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