test-drb March 1999

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by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

Hi. I've finally got all the stuff to upgrade my vax to a level where I can hang it on my network. I have the external disk cable, I have a new 1gig drive to put in it. And of course, I have some questions. i 1. Does VMS 6.2 know about ISO9660 cdroms out of the box? 2. When doing a show dev on a VS3100/40, the cdrom drive should show up on the device list, right? (I suspect I goofed up the wiring on the CDROM case) 3. can someone answer conclusively for me whether the vaxstation expects the disk to have parity enabled? The lists I've read don't seem very sure. 4. anything special about configuring cmu? I've gotten UCX to work in a past life as a VMS sysadmin. As always, I appreciate any answers y'all can give me. -- Jim Strickland jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

25 years, 10 months

Memorex manual

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I have a User's Guide for a Memorex 2079 Color Display Station that I picked up in some stuff. Does anyone need it? The cover says " A Burroughs Company" so it may also cover one of the Burrough's models. Joe

25 years, 10 months

Burst Nibbler?

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

Hi all, Have a friend that has acquired a heavily optioned up Commodore 64. He is not very clued up on computers in general, but he has some strange options fitted. There is some sort of accelerator board built in to his 1541 drive. Unfortunately, for it to work, it evidently needs a disk with something called (I think) Burst Nibbler on it. Seems to be associated with something called Dolphin DOS, possibly on the same disk. Problem is that he doesn't have the disk, seems he bought the machine and many boxes of disks at auction, but a pile of other disks went to someone else. He was able to find the original owner, who confirmed that he needs this particular disk to make the fast loader work, but it seems it was with the stuff he didn't get.. I know just enough about C64's to avoid them like the plague, however I would like to help him if I could.. Anyone out there know more about this, especially in Oz? I'd be happy to cover the costs of copying/shipping a floppy. Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia. Email: geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au ICQ #: 1970476 Phone: 61-8-8633-8834 Mobile: 61-411-623-978 Fax: 61-8-8633-0104

25 years, 10 months

Interesting to note about Altairs...

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<My wish is not a kludge of CP/M. I used CP/M as an example but, if you <were going to use CP/M, I'd wish for a total new re-write with all the <features I wanted built in. Well write them in. The cources are on the net as free for hobby use, there are at least 5 different CPm clones and you can run MYz80 as a development platfform on you PC. <Nope! Linux is still to hard for the average user. There are too many <different flavor of libraries (GLIBC2 vs. LIBC5 as an example). Windows <has the advantage of having (for the most part) only one version of <necessary DLLs. Linux will never match the ease of Windows because if it <did, half of Linux's attractiveness (the user configurability) will be lost The installation is the horror. I have Red Hat and it doesn't like my CDU-33, Slakware does... go figure. Allison

25 years, 10 months

Yipeee! Its alive ...

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Well, for the archives : On a uVax II you have to boot from XQA0 to netboot NetBSD. You have to have your MOP server serve you boot-DEQNA.mopformat. You should use a class C subnet (I was using a class B prefix) Now to figure out how to label the disk so that I can boot locally but ping globally. --Chuck

25 years, 10 months

ARGH! Device names ....

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> Tried to boot using the NetBSD FAQ spec of : > -------------------------------------------------------- snip > >>> b/100 esa0 > > Is there a "List Devices" or somesuch? (and I thought OpenBoot was cryptic!) "ESA0" is what the Ethernet is called on a VS2000 or VS3100. On your Microvax II it should be XQA0. Tim.

25 years, 10 months

HP2100 simulator (was Re: WAY OT: Re: Interesting to note about Altairs...)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Arfon Gryffydd <arfonrg(a)texas.net> wrote: > Back to On-topic... How about the HP2100 emulators... Anyone know how to > get it to work? > > http://oscar.taurus.com/~jeff/2100/index.html OK, if you go to http://oscar.taurus.com/~jeff/2100/emulator/index.html ...you will find the sources for the simulator and some other bits. e21.c is the simulator core. ttyaccess.c is a file lifted from Doug Jones' PDP-8 simulator. They get compiled and linked together to make the simulator, e21. hpasm.c is source for an HP21xx cross-assembler. I haven't done anything with this. chkasm.c is source for a program that checks an HP21xx absolute binary tape to make sure it is OK with its checksums. I haven't done anything with this either. Turns out Jeff did most of his development work under MS-DOS, and I think it probably works best there. I don't know what C compiler he used for MS-DOS. For Un*x, there is the file mkunix which contains commands to compile this stuff. It's not exactly a shell script but may be used as standard input to a shell. Building e21 under FreeBSD requires that you remove -DTERMIOS, and you will then notice that the simulator's prompts are wacky because it puts the tty >from which it is run into raw mode and leaves it that way. I have some patches that make it switch the tty back and forth as needed but they introduce another bug, namely the simulator exits when the simulated 21xx halts. Oops. OK, so now supposing you've got it built, go get something else: http://oscar.taurus.com/~jeff/2100/hpbasic/basic1.abs That's an absolute paper tape image for a single-user standalone BASIC interpreter that will work with the simulator. Now run e21, tell it to LOAD basic1.abs, and then to RUN. Case is important for the simulator's commands. That should get you running the standalone BASIC. Fun, huh? When you get tired of this, type BYE to the BASIC interpreter, and it should drop you back to the simulator's U2100> command prompt. Q will exit the simulator. -Frank McConnell

25 years, 10 months

Amigas and Atari ST

by gareth.knight2＠which.net

Zane H. Healy wrote: >Personally I think that this is the first good news in almost a year. The >way the situation has been handled so far is criminal. The WOA >announcements last spring did more towards killing off the Classic Amiga >market than anything since Commodore's bankrupcy. I agree that it could have been handled a lot better. I have to sympathise with Amiga Inc though. It wasn't easy when they split from their OS Partner around a week before the show. All the hype about the announcement and then they are forced to abandon half of it, leaving just some vague references to a superchip, development boxes and a schedule that was impossible to meet. Personally I think the Amiga has been slowly dying for a number of years. Admittedly there is not the sense of gloom as in 1996 but the "Classic" market is gradually shrinking. In the UK, Amiga Format readership has dropped to just 14,644. However it is hardly doom and gloom; Netscape is being ported to the Amiga under the name "AMozillaX"; Power Computing are set to release a revised version of the A5000 that uses the Escona G3 accelerator; and AmigaOS 3.5 screenshots have been shown for the first time (www.amiga.de). >Well, basically right, but as Tony pointed out, on the DEC Pro POS is >actually P/OS, and I can't remember if the Amigoid POS is POS or P-OS, but >it was to also run on a Pios One :^) <GAMESHOW HOST>Ooooh, you were so close. It was actually spelt "pOS." Let's see what you could have won! ;) >Oh, BLEEP! Any news on the BoXeR? I'd wanted a BoXeR so bad it isn't >funny, but Mick has been dragging his feet for so long I'm no longer sure. Mick has a severe case of the flu apparently, so the BoXeR has been delayed. >I'd thought the Siamese Hardware was ready to go and all that was left was >the drivers. I'm sure all the people that preordered these love this news. >I didn't preorder one for two reasons, lack of faith in it being completed, >and the main reason is there was no mention of Linux support. As you are on the Team Amiga ML I'm sure you've already got the mail from the Siamese PCI crew about the current problems with the board so I won't mention that. Have you looked on the Siamese website recently? They are moving towards the Linux market with a new range of cheap Linux-based systems called the TVNC. It mentions that the Siamese PCI card can be used with these machines so I presume Linux support has, or will be added. Hans Franke wrote: >Don't cary the CP/M flag that low - With 3.0 and GSX CP/M was ready >as major player in the GUI world ? What's GEM as used on the ATARI ST >other than a bautified CP/M and GSX based system with an added desktop >manager ? And I bet nobody will deny that the ST was a major step in >the GUI war. Well, it certainly helped many people to use a greener computer. BTW I noticed a while ago that http://cws86.kyamk.fi/mirrors/cpm/gemworld.html includes an archive with what they claim is the TOS source code for 68010. Has anyone tried it? -- Gareth Knight Amiga Interactive Guide | ICQ No. 24185856 http://welcome.to/aig | "Shine on your star"

25 years, 10 months

Scanning old manuals

by lundo＠interport.net

Eric Smith wrote: > For pages that consist solely of text and line art, scan them as 300 DPI > TIFF Class F Group 4. That takes only 40-120K per page. I put the > resulting images into a PDF file, since most people don't have any other > G4-capable reader, and G4 is supported as a native PDF image format. > [...] > Some results of my scanning can be seen at www.36bit.org. The decsystem-1080/1090 manual is quite readable, and the 136-page 12175kB PDF file averages out to about 89.5kB/page. Then, Sergey Svishchev wrote: > Example: 39-page A4-size document scanned at 300dpi is 1.5 MB in TIFF > format (Group 4 Fax compression), 84 MB in Level 1 PostScript (PStill > does not grok Level 2 PostScript produced by tiff2ps.) > > Result: 3.5 MB PDF (could be less, if PStill used CCITTFaxEncoding.) That comes to about 89.7 kB/page, which agrees with Eric's doc above. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Robert Lund | Out here on the perimeter there are no stars + + lundo(a)interport.net | Out here we is stoned - Immaculate + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

25 years, 10 months

Scanning old manuals

by edick＠idcomm.com

I use some software called TypeMaster Pro, or something very close to that with an old monochrome legal size scanner with sheetfeeder, namely a Microtek 300, which I've had for about 10 years. I normally plunked a manual in the feeder (once the binding was cut off) and scanned all the odd, then all the even pages. It rejects the pictures, of course, but you only have to nurse it through the first 10 or so pages, by which time it's learned the font and punctuations in common use in the manual and can do the rest more or less by itself. Unfortunately it has to be retrained for the second pass. What it does is pretty slick, though, in that it looks at the alignment and actually straightens out a sheet which has been fed crooked. It can't replace text it didn't see, but it does a pretty good job. One of my colleagues made a quick machine readable copy of the State's revised statutes in order to investigate a case in which he was involved. It required less than half a day for him to do that. Dick ---------- > From: Jim Strickland <jim(a)calico.litterbox.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Scanning old manuals > Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 4:21 PM > > > Last I checked, that was a USD 3,000 camera. Prices may have gone > > down, however. Note that there's no way anything less than the $10K > > Hasselblad backs that magazines use for studio work can equal a 600dpi > > scan. > > > Which 35mm film are you using? There are some really nifty Kodak > > technical films -- Tekpan something or other (4-digit number?) is an > > ASA 25 black & white film, although you'd need a few hundred dollars > > of lighting equipment to use it for this application. OTOH, T-Max 125 > > probably delivers more than enough quality for the job. ^_^ > > Hey, you can save a ton of work scanning and get far better resolution than > the average scanner by taking the pictures on 35mm film with a good closeup > lense and having Kodak process it on to a photocd. Most graphics packages > (ie photodeluxe) can read photocds directly. > -- > Jim Strickland > jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? > -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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test-drb March 1999