At 12:04 PM 3/18/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>So someone needs to create another web site that is the opposite
>>of what eBay provides. A site where you can advertise that you're
>>looking for an Exidy Sorcerer computer, and woould be willing to
>>pay about $15 plus $10 shipping. I suggest you call this new
Ph sure, and if I (john doe) had an exidy, I would look at your listing,
then head over to eBay and post it with a $15 min. bid. Then I would send
you an e-mail saying I had one on ebay.
>service which protects the buyer and the seller, by ensuring the funds and
>the merchandise as represented are there and by ensuring the parties
>complete the transaction to which they're supposedly committed, would be
>VERY valuable and would take a BIG bite out of Ebay's share. That's not an
Sure, they're called Christies, Sotheby's, Butterfield and Butterfield...
(Or did you want to pay an extra $10 to guarantee that $10 sale?)
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In einer eMail vom 18.03.99 19:40:17, schreiben Sie:
<<
> Ward D. Griffiths III wrote:
>
> ePay seems to be a seller's market. There's nothing inherently wrong with
> that, but nevertheless I think it sucks. Of course, my opinion is very
> biased, since I'm generally on the buying end of the deal.
>
So someone needs to create another web site that is the opposite
of what eBay provides. A site where you can advertise that you're
looking for an Exidy Sorcerer computer, and woould be willing to
pay about $15 plus $10 shipping. I suggest you call this new
site yaBe.com ....
-Lawrence (yes I want an Exidy, who doesn't?) LeMay
>>
I think this is a VERY, VERY GOOD idea !
John G. Zabolitzky
Hi All,
I've got three HP-85s , two are the 'A' model and one is the 'B' model. I'm
looking to sell them (or trade for PDP-8 stuff), consider this a silent auction
:-)
Here's the scoop:
- None of them have any ROM modules.
Unit #1:
HP-85 Serial #2204A54765
Includes printer.
It is missing the tape drive.
It is missing the key cap for the 'up arrow' key.
Powers up, gives "Error 23 - Self Test"
(presumably, 'my tape drive is missing')
Typed the standard
10 FOR I = 1 TO 10
20 DISP I
30 NEXT I
40 END
Diagnostic and it works fine.
Printer appears to work but I don't know
how to test it.
Unit #2:
HP-85 Serial #2023A08736
Includes printer.
It is missing the tape drive.
Has all its key caps.
Powers up, gives "Error 23 - Self Test"
(presumably, 'my tape drive is missing')
Typed the standard
10 FOR I = 1 TO 10
20 DISP I
30 NEXT I
40 END
Diagnostic and it works fine.
Printer appears to work but I don't know
how to test it.
Unit #3:
HP-85B Serial #2510B49048
Includes printer.
Includes the tape drive.
Has all its key caps.
Does NOT power up.
I have verified the fuse is good but
not done any other work on it.
They weigh about 15 lbs each so they are pretty inexpensive to ship UPS in
the continental US.
Terms are basically buyer pays actual postage plus their offer amount.
Auction closes at midnight 3/23/99 (Tuesday) Pacific Standard Time. I'll
keep all bidders confidential and updated as to the current offer so they
may revise their bid. Last update from me will be Tuesday 3/23/99 around
5PM PST.
Email me (cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com) if you're interested or have any questions.
--Chuck
I am preparing to haul a bunch of micro junk to RCS/RI this weekend, and
found some extras in the box. Here we go:
* SWTPC MP-01 6800 Computer System, Aug 75.
Apparently this was the early "sales" document, with descriptions and
prices for the various boards and things. Included is a Q and A section,
with inqueries like "What type terminal do I use?", and "When can I expect
to get delivery?". The original order form is still attached to the back,
butif you fill it out, I doubt you will get a computer! 8.5" x 11", about
15 pages.
* SWTPC Computer Peripherals, Jul 76.
Another catalog, this time with pictures for extras like the AC-30, PR-40,
and GT-61. Also included is the announcment of the CT-1024 terminal
system. For some reason the back cover has been cut oddly - perhaps a flaw
>from the printers. 8.5" x 11", about 15 pages.
* Ready for Business, no date.
This is a four page pamphlet showing the whole SWTPC system - CPU, floppy
box, AC-30 cassette interface, printer, and terminal, as well as the DMAF1
1 Megabyte Disk System (basically a dual 8" drive box). 8.5" x 11", 4
pages.
* SWTPC Computer Products catalog, Dec 76.
Basically like the first item on this post, but in a smaller format. 6" x
9", about 15 pages.
* SWTPC Computer Products catalog, May 78.
Again, like the first item, but now with more stuff (and a better
quality job on the document!), but in a smaller format. 6" x
9", about 15 pages.
All of this stuff looks sort of cheesy, as some of it was printed before
the computers were actually shipping. Most have dates scribbled on them
>from the previous owner, Owen Davis, who also put his name on several
pieces. Nothing of these scribbles, however, are messy or annoying. All of
the things are in pretty good shape, with no bad creases or
significant rips.
I guess will make this best offer. I would prefer to sell it as a lot.
Lets give this until Monday afternoon - then I will decide the winner(s).
Trades are possible - basically old mainframey and super type things and
paper are wanted. Trades with bribes are also possible!
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
Jason,
>The better thing to do would be to either a) beat senseless the punk who
>broke into your system (my first choice), b) hack into his computer and
>retaliate, c) both.
>Of course, if you can lay hands on the bugger who did it...
>First, buy a machete.
>Second, hack off the offender's naughty bits.
I have seen many e-mails which support violence and revenge. This should
be a kinder-gentler world because it takes a village you know. Let bygones
be bygones and this will pass. And in a few months when the memory is gone
things will be better. Then sneak over to the guy's house and fill his gas
tank with a full bag of sugar! THEN load Linux onto your system and live
the good life.
You're Welcome,
Arfon
P.S. May I suggest Slackware?
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<types. The replacement transistor
<that NTE had didn't seem to have enough gain. In order
<for a flyback switcher to work, the edges have to be sharp.
<I currently have a 2N4401 in there but it may have too much gain
<or not be able to handle the higher reverse voltage on the
the 4401 is a good match but the NTE part should work. The transistor
should be able to withstand 60V and have a moderate beta. I'd try a
2n2219 or maybe a 3904. The cicut is not the best design and tended
to flake out if the load was too high.
Allison
I want a few people's opinions before I take any actions:
My computer was recently hacked into, and a bunch of the software, and some
of the hardware was messed up (I know who did it - no one on this list -
someone from my school).
What would be the best thing to do here (other than physically damage the
person/and/or their computer)? Is there any security programs for Windoze
'95 that can be downloaded?
Where or who would I report this person to? FCC?
ThAnX,
--
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
In einer eMail vom 19.03.99 19:03:07 MEZ, schreibt Sellam:
<<
On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 Jgzabol(a)aol.com wrote:
> So someone needs to create another web site that is the opposite
> of what eBay provides. A site where you can advertise that you're
> looking for an Exidy Sorcerer computer, and woould be willing to
> pay about $15 plus $10 shipping. I suggest you call this new
> site yaBe.com ....
>
> -Lawrence (yes I want an Exidy, who doesn't?) LeMay
>
> >>
>
> I think this is a VERY, VERY GOOD idea !
It is a good idea but let me be the naysayer for a moment. Say someone
does go through the trouble to create such a cool site. A bunch of guys
sick of the ebay atrocity start posting want ads for stuff they want.
And they wait. And wait. And wait. And...nothing ever comes of it.
People who are selling this stuff come to the page, see someone wanting an
Exidy Sorcerer for $15 and go "HAH! I can get 20 times that on ebay!"
Then they go to ebay and get 20 times that.
Now I would think that many on this list are more interested in trading
computers in a sane manner with other like-minded hobbyists, and on the
strength of that alone will this work.
Now let's say that a trading board is added, where people can post stuff
they have for sale or trade there. Let's say some really cool things are
offered for sane prices, like S-100 systems and cards, interesting
micro's from the 80s, PDP-8 hardware and software, etc. Good stuff. All
being offered at reasonable prices because its offered by hobbyists
intended for hobbyists.
Now, along comes some jerk with a lot of money, he starts buying up
everything that gets posted, and then even worse, a couple weeks later
this stuff starts showing up on ebay and getting sold for the same old
ridiculous prices!
Now, what I'm trying to say is, while this sounds like a very cool idea,
it has the potential to get destroyed by the very thing we're trying to
avoid. A system needs to be designed to insure that there is a level of
integrity maintained, otherwise you just have another ebay, and one ebay
is bad enough.
I don't have any ideas on this (yet) but I think it should be well thought
out before anyone even bothers to set up the site.
Sellam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
>>
That impresses me as very logical. By that token, no automatic scheme
of any sort would work. This seems to point to the need for some kind
of registry: differentiating between hobbyists and jerks must be done in an
intelligent manner, and someone would be kind of the gatekeeper.
Here in Germany we have a point scheme for traffic violations: whenever you
commit one, a note is sent to a central registry. When your point sum reaches
a limit, you loose your license. This kind of scheme - an extension of the
mediated
mailing list I would say - may be the right thing here:
- Hobbyists apply for the right to participate;
- Unless negative info is known, application is granted;
- if and when negative info accumulates, right of participation is revoked.
Of course, the registrar must be a person really in high esteem by everyone!
John G. Zabolitzky
In a message dated 19.3.1999 14:13:44 Eastern Standard Time, af-list@wfi-
inc.com writes:
> On a small scale, it would be a nice resource for the members of this
> list to have a simple, searchable registry of who's looking for what.
> You don't even have to disclose what you're willing to pay (I think it'd
> be much more anti-ebay if there weren't any dollar signs on it at all),
> but just that you would like anyone who has one of these systems
> available to contact you. This would simply be a contact facilitator,
> and the independent parties could then negotiate prices, etc.
>
> Worst case would be that the professional auction sellers would find out
> and start flooding the registrants with URLs of their eBay auctions. But
> if it's a "registered user" service, it would be simple enough to
> implement a "no-eBay" policy and boot people for doing that.
for an example of this, goto
www.aomci.org/webads.htm
i collect old outboard motors and their online advertisement area has a
similar format. People list what they are looking for along witha contact
name and address and that's it. aomci.org also has a newsletter that matches
the website. prices are strictly forbidden in the advertisements to prevent
artificially high prices and the type of price increases we are seeing in our
own hobby.
david
