test-drb March 1999

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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I'm curious, has anyone ever sat down and figured out how best to define a database that would hold info on all thier Classic Computer documentation. You know stuff like DEC Fiche, DEC Handbooks, manuals, catalogues, brouchures, etc.? Does anyone have any thoughts on what info should be captured? For example, a randomly selected piece of Fiche yields the following info: Colour: Brown Bar Title: Mini Index 83-05 ???: Hardware Documentation Library Index, Updateing and User Information Part Number?: EP-0MINI-IX-05 Copyright: 1983 Fiche 1 of 1 Produced By: Digital I can see needing a field that is something like machine type that would be; PDP-11, PDP-8, VAX, Terminal, Printer, Tape Drive, Disk Drive, etc. Properly defined this database could be used for more than just DEC Doc's, which is my primary concern at the moment. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

25 years, 10 months

DEC, HP, Intel MCS, and Honeywell Pocket Reference cards for sale.

by kstumpf＠unusual.on.ca

Honeywell DPS6 & Level 6 GCOS 6 Mod 400 Programmer's Pocket Guide (CZ07-01) - US$6 DEC PDP-9 & 9/L Instruction List, and PDP-9/L COMPACT Software System - US$6 DEC VAX-11 Programming Card - free DEC MicroVMS Programming Pocket Reference - free HP MPE III software pocket guide (April 1978) - still in binding, but well used - US$3 HP MPE software pocket guide (3" by 5" binder) (April 1981) - has name written on cover - US$6 HP MPE software pocket guide (3" by 5" binder) (April 1981) -- US$7 Intel 8080 Assembly Language Reference Card (March 1978), and 8" by 11" MCS-8 Users Manual Rev 2 (November 1972) - US$17 All items are in excellent condition unless otherwise noted and prices include ground shipment through Canada Post/US Mail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- Kevin Stumpf * Unusual systems * www.unusual.on.ca +1.519.744.2900 * EST/EDT GMT - 5 Collector - Commercial Mainframes & Minicomputers from the 50s, 60s, & 70s and control panels and consoles. Author & Publisher - A Guide to Collecting Computers & Computer Collectibles * ISBN 0-9684244-0-6 .

25 years, 10 months

OT: 30-pin SIMMS

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Does anyone here have any 30-pin SIMMs as often found in i386 computers <that are more than 1 megabyte? I have 1-mb SIMMs but I've never seen <bigger ones You can still buy 30pin simms (256k, 1mb, 4mb) from JDR. the 4mb parts are scarce and finding them for less than 10$ is hard. The 1mb parts are like flies and they can be had for nearly nothing. Allison

25 years, 10 months

interesting, interesting.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 28, 0:08, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >Chuck wrote: > >> On the tape drive in the BA123, it has a plain black front with a button > >> and two LEDs, one orange and one green. TK50? Where could I get media for > >> it? What does it look like? > > > >Maybe an Exabyte 8200 drive (8 mm)? But those aren't standard equipment on > >the uVAX II, and would require a SCSI controller. > > Yipes, looking over at my _Exabyte 8500_ it has a little black button that > has a green LED above an orange one directly to the right of the button. > I'd guess the drive in question is a 8500, all the 8200's I've seen have > beige faceplates. This makes sense seeing as how the MVII in question has > SCSI Hard Drives. Both of my ExaByte 8200's have black faceplates. However, the LEDs are side-by-side about 1.25" from the left side of the drive, and the button is on the right. When the drive is powered up, what do the LEDs do? If you press the button, does the front open to allow you to insert a tape, like a miniature VHS machine? Or does it just have an open slot to slide a cartridge into? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 10 months

Novice prospectors guide

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Which simply means, carry a screwdriver with you at all times :) In fact, <PC clones sometimes have interesting software on them. I once saw a Compaq <Portable that had a network card and had apparently been used in some sort <of DEC network. Yes, DEC sold cards and networking software to work with the VAX (DECNET) systems. The software started as PCSA, later known as PATHWORKS and TEAMLINKS. Since I have and use vaxen the software would be a find. The net cards are standard eithernet. Allison

25 years, 10 months

FW: VAX / VMS Manuals etc..

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

Anyone in the UK (heck, here for that matter) want some VMS books? Get in contact with this fellow. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:22:25 +0000, in vmsnet.pdp-11 you wrote: >>From: "Tim. Bluck." <tb(a)oes-ee.demon.co.uk> >>Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 >>Subject: VAX / VMS Manuals etc.. >>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:22:25 +0000 >>Organization: O.E.S. Electronics Engineers. >>Message-ID: <3$oznCAhjR22Ewkx(a)planet-tharg.demon.co.uk> >>NNTP-Posting-Host: planet-tharg.demon.co.uk >>X-NNTP-Posting-Host: planet-tharg.demon.co.uk:212.229.58.50 >>X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 920296582 nnrp-02:3920 NO-IDENT planet-tharg.demon.co.uk:212.229.58.50 >>X-Complaints-To: abuse(a)demon.net >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>X-Newsreader: Turnpike (16) Version 3.05 <g2k83c45w3$XeOnMEtH6P0Xg0v> >>Lines: 12 >>Path: news1.jps.net!news.pbi.net!131.119.28.147!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!diablo.theplanet.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!planet-tharg.demon.co.uk!tb >>Xref: news1.jps.net vmsnet.pdp-11:1130 >> >>Hello. >> I have A whole load of Dec vax / vms / basic / all-in-one..... >>manuals, If anybody would like any of them, or if there's any interest >>at all, I'll try to post a list of what I have.. >> >>They're free, You just pay for the postage, or collect. I'm in North >>Kent, England. And I can be reached at the following e-mail address. >> >>tb(a)planet-tharg.demon.co.uk >> >>Many thanks. >>Tim.R.Bluck. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com "...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."

25 years, 10 months

Teledisk Buy Update: Two shares left

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

As of 06:48, Monday, March 1 '99, we have TWO (2) shares left in the Teledisk group buy. I ask that those who may get the urge to get a couple of shares simply to push things forward please hold off until, say, Wednesday afternoon. We may get another couple of folks into the ring. Thanks to all who have participated so far. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

25 years, 10 months

Looking for RT-11 Documentation

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>>I have absolutely no RT-11 documentation, although I have two systems >>running it (both 11/23s). Does anyone have any online documentation on >>the command language, configuration, device drivers, sysgen, etc? I'm >>fumbling around without it. >There is no on-line documentation... if there is, I'm sure Mentec >would be a little bothered by it. Actually, an "on-line" version of the RT-11 mini ref nearly made it into the 5.7 release. Space considerations on the floppy distributions is what axed the idea in the end. And all the manuals are "on-line" here, just not publicly accessible :-(. > There might be HELP available on > the system, depending on the version and whether all the required > files are still there... If it's not there, then an web-accessible version of the same information (albeit for RT-11 5.7, the Y2K compliant version) is available from http://www.trailing-edge.com/~shoppa/rthelp/ or http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/rthelp/ The second reference will be faster to view, though slower to type in :-) The above references have been available for well over a year and a half now. > Megan Gentry > Former RT-11 Developer Gees, should I start signing myself "Tim Shoppa, Current RT-11 Developer, Former Nuclear Astrophysicist?" ? :-) -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

25 years, 10 months

Sharp PC-700 + other bits available.

by kevan＠heydon.org

Reply to him directly if you are interested. -- Kevan Collector of old computers: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Neil R. Temple <SMASafety(a)compuserve.com> To: "collector(a)heydon.org" <collector(a)heydon.org> Subject: Vintage Electronics I am in the process of cleaning out my home office and realized that I have 1st generation office electronics that may be of interest to a collector. I have a Sharp PC-7000 portable computer ( 2 - 5.25 " drives, no hard drive!, LCD screen, detachable keyboard with case, original manuals and disks) a portable fax machine (300 baud rotating drum Polaris Datafax 300 with carrying case, manuals and paper) and a personal copier (3M 051 copier - 2 step thermal transfer process with paper) all very early 80s. Are you interested or do you know another collector who may be?? I just can't bring myself to junk these old friends. I'm not looking for money for these items, only the cost of shipping. I'm located in Northern Virginia, just south of Washington, DC. I may be able to provide photos and/or additonal information. I really want to move them out of my office, but can't bring myself to just throw them out.

25 years, 10 months

OT: 30-pin SIMMS

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

>> Are there any adapter cards so 4 1mb simms can be used as a 4mb >> 30 pin? I have seen those that can be used as a 72 pin. Well, I came across a 72-pin adapter that took 30 pin SIMMS (I'm not sure if you meant that or were talking about 72 pin adapters that took 72 pin SIMMS). I've never seen a 30 - to - 30 adapter around, although I'd expect it to be possible to build one. I think SIMM-savers were only around briefly during the couple of years when 30 pin SIMMS were going out of fashion and 72 pin ones were coming in. I remember working on some PCs (Unisys?) a few years ago which had all their main memory on a full-length daughterboard card - there were something like 16 30-pin SIMM sockets on there, although I think the systems only recognised 256Kb SIMMS, not 1Mb's... cheers, Jules > >

25 years, 10 months

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