>> Does anyone have a copy of the Basic source for Super StarTrek? It's
>>included in the book "BASIC Computer Games" by David H. Ahl (Creative
>>Computing).
>>
>> I probably won't win the eOverPay auction, so I'm trying to search out a
>>copy of the game, since AFAIK, it's the only program of interest in book
>>anyway.
>Sure, I've got it, it's on one of the four 8" floppies that Creative
>Computing was selling in 1977 or so with all the "BASIC Computer
>Games" on them.
>
>If you want to see the original floppies and documentation cards, check
>out
>
> http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/flop1.jpg
> http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/flop2.jpg
> http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/sheet1a.gif
> http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/sheet2a.gif
And for the source code listing (as opposed to Tokenized .BAS file),
see
http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/startrek.txt
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I was going thru some drives and tapes yesterday while trying to
resurrect my MVII and came across a v4.7 distribution I din't know I
had. This leads me to ask, one, if the person looking for same a few
days back (Enrico?) found one. And a second, stupid question. Stupid
because most of you probably know the answer. But as a PDP11 type
relatively new to the VAXworld I'd like to know what is the
difference/Is there a difference between VMS, MicroVMS? The tape I found
is labeled MicroVMS v4.7 bin.
Both of my Qbus machines are down right now so I cant verify this tape.
If there is still the need for this maybe someone in the Houston area on
list can check it out.
Nick
>> Does anyone have a copy of the Basic source for Super StarTrek? It's
>>included in the book "BASIC Computer Games" by David H. Ahl (Creative
>>Computing).
>>
>> I probably won't win the eOverPay auction, so I'm trying to search out a
>>copy of the game, since AFAIK, it's the only program of interest in book
>>anyway.
>Sure, I've got it, it's on one of the four 8" floppies that Creative
>Computing was selling in 1977 or so with all the "BASIC Computer
>Games" on them.
>
>If you want to see the original floppies and documentation cards, check
>out
>
> http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/flop1.jpg
> http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/flop2.jpg
> http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/sheet1a.gif
> http://www.trailing-edge.com/www/sheet2a.gif
And here's the actual game in progress - running on my S-100 crate
>from the above 8" floppies:
CompuPro Systems
56K CP/M 2.2H
A>BASIC52 STARTREK
BASIC-80 Rev. 5.2
[CP/M Version]
Copyright 1977, 78, 79, 80 (C) by Microsoft
Created: 14-Jul-80
24134 Bytes free
YOUR ORDERS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
--------------------------
DESTROY THE 19 KLINGON WARSHIPS WHICH HAVE INVADED
THE GALAXY BEFORE THEY CAN ATTACK FEDERATION HEADQUARTERS
ON STARDATE 2428. THIS GIVES YOU 28 DAYS. THERE ARE
3 STARBASES IN THE GALAXY FOR RESUPPLYING YOUR SHIP.
ARE YOU READY TO ACCEPT COMMAND ('N' FOR INSTRUCTIONS)?Y
YOUR MISSION BEGINS WITH YOUR STARSHIP LOCATED
IN THE GALACTIC QUADRANT, 'CAPELLA I'.
COMMAND? LRS
LONG RANGE SCAN FOR QUADRANT 2, 6
-------------------
| 008 | 105 | 007 |
-------------------
| 003 | 003 | 101 |
-------------------
| 008 | 003 | 007 |
-------------------
COMMAND? SRS
+--1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8-+
1 | | 1 STARDATE 2400.0
2 | * | 2 CONDITION GREEN
3 | | 3 QUADRANT 2, 6
4 | | 4 SECTOR 7, 7
5 | | 5 PHOTON TORPEDOES 10
6 | * * | 6 TOTAL ENERGY 2950
7 | <E> | 7 SHIELDS 1000
8 | | 8 KLINGONS REMAINING 19
+--1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8-+
COMMAND? NAV
COURSE (0-9)? 1
WARP FACTOR (0-8)? .2
NOW ENTERING DENEB III QUADRANT . . .
COMBAT AREA CONDITION RED
+--1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8-+
1 | | 1 STARDATE 2401.0
2 | | 2 CONDITION *RED*
3 | +K+ | 3 QUADRANT 2, 7
4 | | 4 SECTOR 7, 1
5 | | 5 PHOTON TORPEDOES 10
6 | | 6 TOTAL ENERGY 2938
7 | <E> | 7 SHIELDS 1000
8 | * | 8 KLINGONS REMAINING 19
+--1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8-+
COMMAND? PHA
PHASERS LOCKED ON TARGET; ENERGY AVAILABLE = 1938 UNITS
NUMBER OF UNITS TO FIRE? 350
121 UNIT HIT ON KLINGON AT SECTOR 3, 7.
(SENSORS SHOW 115.412 UNITS REMAINING)
42 UNIT HIT ON ENTERPRISE FROM SECTOR 3, 7.
<SHIELDS DOWN TO 958 UNITS>
COMMAND? PHA
PHASERS LOCKED ON TARGET; ENERGY AVAILABLE = 1588 UNITS
NUMBER OF UNITS TO FIRE? 350
117 UNIT HIT ON KLINGON AT SECTOR 3, 7.
*** KLINGON DESTROYED ***
COMMAND?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, December 04, 1999 11:27 PM
Subject: This guy needs a *LART*... :-/
>Check out this ebay auction under Computers:Mainframe...
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=210172793
>
>What an absolute, unadulterated jerk.
>
>Can you list negative feedback for a person even if you had no dealings
>with them???
>
Only if you are the high bidder on one of his items.. Otherwise it has to be
neutral.
john
PDP-8 and other rare mini computers
http://www.pdp8.com
>Growling mad,
>Roger "Merch" Merchberger
>--
>Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
>Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
>
>If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
>disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Innfogra(a)aol.com <Innfogra(a)aol.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 3:28 AM
Subject: Adopt a scrapper and paper tape punches.
>In a message dated 12/4/1999 10:05:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>mrdos(a)swbell.net writes:
>
>> would take it seriously. It's really not a bad idea, and I'm sure our
fellow
>> collectors would go for it. We really need an organization to preserve
old
>> computers. I go to scrap yards and see classic machines ripped apart all
>the
>> ti
>While I like the idea of an organization to preserve old computers I
suspect
>there are already several. This list actually works well for rescues.
>
>The biggest problem is that the scrappers are rarely computer literate. If
>they are they are already selling on ebay and the Internet. Most scrappers
Some might have kept core memory and stuff like that but for the most part
these guys don't have time to play on EBay.. The volume is so high they
can't afford the time. Gold content (and other metals) are high so all they
have to do is keep stripping the stuff down.
>are metals oriented. Even if they are recyclers the bottom line is the
value
>of the metals. Volume is the problem, you must scrap or get buried in it.
>
>The best answer is to make friends with a scrapper. Anyone who will pay
twice
>the scrap value consistently will be a welcome customer. In the long run
you
Scrap value to a gold reclaimer is *alot*more than you think. The place I
visited routinely offers $8-10K for IBM 30 series. (water cooled CPU)... As
a lot of the older minis have less gold I can get them for a lor less. If an
IBM 360 comes up be prepared that there is a lot of gold in that machine and
it will cost a lot of money. Don't forget, they won't accept "scrap price",
they will want "raw materials" price... and for some large super
computers/large mainframes that can be quite expensive.
>may get systems set aside for you to look at. Ask for particular brands or
>items but don't become a pest. They need to know what you are looking for.
They don't care. The don't understand the stuff. They just know IBM1130 =
pay $4K as scrap, get $7 in raw materials back.
>Check on a regular basis. Don't ask them to call you unless you are willing
>to offer significant money. They are busy and you are not a major part of
>their business.
>
They won't call. (maybe smaller ones might). The guy I just visited was soo
busy I had to wait in line to ask simple questions.
>I bet there are enough people on the list to cover the major scrappers in
>each city. If each person adopted one we could flood this list with
>equipment. And probably dump enough on ebay to depress prices.
john
PDP-8 and other rare mini computers
http://www.pdp8.com
>
>I am adopting one here in Portland. And that brings up paper tape punches.
He
>has a REMEX paper tape punch and reader set. It is shrink wrapped on a
pallet
>and I have not had a chance to look at it yet. He wants $250 but may be
open
>to offers. He sells a lot of stuff to Western Numerical Controls. They are
>old and extremely heavy, I would say late 70s but that is a guess. If
anyone
>is interested please email me off the list.
>
>Paxton
>
>
I have a dec rainbow system and a similar looking word processor machine and
some software taking up space. Keyboard, monitor, LA 50 printer, etc.
Located in New Hampshire.
Please reply privately if interested. I will be off the mail list.
balloon711(a)aol.com
Hi everyone
As some on the list may know, I'm mad-keen on Russian calculating devices.
I've pretty much concentrated on calculators (please see my award-winning
site listed in my .sig), but my many agents occasionally offer computers,
too. Typically I don't buy (computers are not my main line of interest) -
but in this case I'm scouting around for a buyer. The reason: read on.
One of the rarest Russian calculators is the MK-47. It's a magnetic card
reading machine - so the rumour goes. None have been seen in captivity.
Some 6 months back, one of my agents (from whom I've previously purchased
several rare machines) told me that he had an MK-47 for me. I was quite
excited. More correctly, his grandmother had found one, and she was to
bring it to him the next day. So, I waited for news. And waited. And
waited.
About a month later, a short email from my agent (Alex) tells me that he has
been in hospital, and will be there for the next few weeks. And
furthermore, he hasn't seen the calculator yet because his grandmother is
ill and in (another) hospital, too. Of course I told him to forget about
the machine for now, and get well ASAP.
Around this time my personal life was thrown into turmoil when my (5yo)
daughter became gravely ill and spent several days in hospital
(complications of chicken pox, and drinking skin lotion, for the curious).
So, I wasn't particularly thinking about calculators, either.
Anyway, a few weeks pass, and I get news from Alex's father (Alex is still
in hospital) that Alex's grandmother's house has burned to the ground. You
can guess where the calculator was. Still, this is about a house, and
that's tragic. A calculator is just an old machine. At this stage, I was
beginning to think the machine was jinxed anyway.
Alex contacted me later (through his father) to tell me that the fire which
burned down his grandmoter's house STARTED in the house of the man who gave
her the MK-47 calculator in the first place. Spooky.
A few days later, Alex's MOTHER contacted me with the sad news that Alex's
grandmother had died, and that Alex's father had had a heart attack when he
found out. So, Alex is in hospital, Alex's father is in hospital, and
Alex's grandmother has died.
Here we are, a few weeks after that. Today Alex told me he is out of
hospital. His father is still in hospital, but in less-serious condition.
And Alex is on the prowl again (for calculators and computers). As you
might understand (if you've stuck with me so far), things have been
incredibly stressful for his family - and more to the point - incredibly
expensive. Alex needs some extra funds to pay for the medical costs, and
here's where I come in.
As I said, I've done trades with Alex before, and found him not only
reliable, friendly and honest - but incredibly good at finding rare and
unusual things. Right now, however, Alex has a few vintage soviet home
computers for sale. I've told him about you guys [collectors], and he's
asked me to contact you on his behalf.
Could anybody interested in exploring the purchase of soviet computers from
Alex please contact me by direct email (adavie(a)mad.scientist.com). I have
some pictures and details of machines that he has - and will be happy to act
as an intermediary - or put you directly in contact with Alex. I have done
many, many transactions to Russia, so can offer advice and suggestions
regarding transfer of money and computers.
OK, that's about all I have to write. This is probably the best opportunity
many on the list will get to obtain some interesting machines. And
remember, Alex is a champion at finding unusual/rare stuff.
Cheers
A
--
Andrew Davie adavie(a)mad.scientist.com // adavie(a)comcen.com.au //
adavie(a)bde.com.au
Museum of Soviet Calculators http://members.xoom.com/adavie/soviet.html
Slide Rule Trading Post http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/
I actually thought of that once, but thought I was about the only one who
would take it seriously. It's really not a bad idea, and I'm sure our fellow
collectors would go for it. We really need an organization to preserve old
computers. I go to scrap yards and see classic machines ripped apart all the
time. Computers are a big part of everyone's lives now, and just like
anything else that changes our society that much, (the printing press, for
example) they need to protected. I hoped someone else would have the same
idea I did. I really think it is a great idea, worth considering, at the
least.
>Well, maybe we should start a National Computer Preservation Historical
>Society, and then once we have a couple hundred members (should take all
>of 1 hour...) then we start sending letters to our representatives asking
>them to write a bill similar to whatever empowers the people that preserve
>historical buildings and landmarks.
>
>Of course, real influence comes with a historical society that has been in
>existance for many years, but of course you have to start sometime ;)
>
>-Lawrence LeMay
Why get all upset over such an inane offering. The guy is obviously an
idiot and so is anyone who'd pay for such a piece of junk.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, December 04, 1999 9:31 PM
Subject: This guy needs a *LART*... :-/
>Check out this ebay auction under Computers:Mainframe...
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=210172793
>
>What an absolute, unadulterated jerk.
>
>Can you list negative feedback for a person even if you had no dealings
>with them???
>
>Growling mad,
>Roger "Merch" Merchberger
>--
>Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
>Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
>
>If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
>disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
