Well, since the technology's there to make a detonator out of one of these
just as it's there to use a cell-phone to fire a device, I suppose they
could be concerned, but the way this information is presented at the '2600'
site is quite different from the way it's presented at the Ramsey site.
We may NEVER know what really happened.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: OT?: Illegal Transmitters
>
> Umm, I guess you didn't read Ramsey's web pages.
>
> http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/scstore/sitepages/hobby/fedpage2.htm
>
> -Dave McGuire
>
>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Richard Erlacher wrote:
>>Does anybody really believe this unsubstantiated and uncorroborated sort
of
>>prattle? The key difference between this and normal "news" is that real
>>stories don't have to mask the names of the participants.
>>
>>While it's possible, stupid as our government is, it's not likely that a
>>legitimate source of legitimate news would report a legitimate story in
this
>>way, with oblique references to what should be in the lead, and masked
>>references to individuals and businesses likely to sue.
>>
>>Dick
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
>>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
>><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>>Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 5:15 PM
>>Subject: OT: Re: OT?: Illegal Transmitters
>>
>>
>>>At 02:09 PM 12/27/99 -0800, Marvin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>While the direct subject is off topic, if the Federal raids *were* at
>>>>gunpoint and actually were *raids*, I could see this becoming a problem
>>>>collecting some computers.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.2600.com/news/1999/1218.html
>>>>
>>>>For those of you who are html impaired, the subject concerns raids
carried
>>>>out on a number of small businesses making electronic kits including
>>Ramsey
>>>>Electronics and Super Circuits. The subject in question appears to be
>>>>equipment that could be used for wiretapping.
>>>
>>> So what else is new? Gun owners have had to put with this kind of
>>>harrasment and rediculous interpetation of the laws for years.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>>
>>>
--- Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Those lamp panels (144 lamps IIRC) are fun. They're used on other DEC
> > > peripherals as well -- the RK11-C can take one (where it displays most of
> > > the registers, etc).
>
> Yes, of course. The input signals are all TTL level... and the panel is just
> driver transistors and lamps. You could use (e.g) ULN2803 chips to drive
> lamps... I probably have a schematic of the panel in the DX11 prints.
OK... so fabrication isn't a big deal, but knowing which cable pins get named
what is. I mean there's disk registers of various types, but just sticking
a gross of bulbs on the end of a cable protruding from the backplane will
result in some pretty interesting, but random lights.
If your DX11 prints surface, cool. No need to go digging. I'm a long way off
>from resurrecting the RK11-C. I have an RKV11-D that I'll use first, to scan
and backup my tower of RK05 packs. I know I've got RT-11 v4 on RK and v5 on
RL disks; it's just a matter of slapping together a system with RL drives,
RK drives and getting an RL drive on my MicroVAX again for easy data transfer
($ BACKUP/PHYSICAL...) OTOH, I finally landed a DEQNA, but have no idea how
I'd use it under a non-UNIX PDP-11 OS (like RT-11 or RSX), but that's a
different topic for a different day. This is TTY month.
-ethan
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--- Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Those lamp panels (144 lamps IIRC) are fun. They're used on other DEC
> peripherals as well -- the RK11-C can take one (where it displays most of
> the registers, etc).
I've seen those mentioned in the appropriate handbooks. I even have
an RK-11C that would be much easier to debug (not to mention more fun)
with a panel of blinkenlights. Presumably, one could be fabricated with
easier-to-find lamps than the DEC originals (at least, _I_ only have a
handful of spares).
-ethan
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> > Ah, yes, but I'm going to somebody else's house to drink _their_
> > fancy booze and eat their fancy food (sushi, yum!) next week. My
> > party is *next* year. Maybe we'll show Stanley Kubrik's movie to
> > get the party rolling. ;-)
>
> Which one ?
>
"Death Race 2000" this year, "2001 - A Space Odyssey" next year. ;-)
Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
<snip>
>> Also, what are the current licensing issues with RT11, RSX, and RSTS? A
few
>> list members have offered to help me read in all the different versions
so I
>> can post them on the Internet.
>
>Still very much licensed, I'm afraid. There is a bobbyist license that
>applies to (I believe) Supnik's emulator _only_ for some versions of
>these OS's, but there's no affordable license to run them on real hardare
>or other hardware.
>
>-tony
>
>
So what you are saying is I can post most versions of every OS and state
that they may only be used on Supnik's emulator. I guess it will be up to
the honest end-user.
john
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--- Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >In a message dated 12/24/1999 2:39:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk writes:
> >
> >> The new millennium starts on 01/01/2001.
> >
> >Right on!
>
> Maybe so, but the party "starts" next weekend. :=)
Ah, yes, but I'm going to somebody else's house to drink _their_
fancy booze and eat their fancy food (sushi, yum!) next week. My
party is *next* year. Maybe we'll show Stanley Kubrik's movie to
get the party rolling. ;-)
-ethan
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