test-drb October 1999

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by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 10/1/99 3:59:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mikeford(a)socal.rr.com writes: > >My bulletin board system has over 4 gigs of classic computer games. They are > >all games that haven't been sold since 1993. I also have the really old DOS > >versions. I know it is illegal to have pirated games and software, but this > >is stuff that you just can't find or buy ANYWHERE and there is no > commercial > >demand for such programs. > > Which means it would be a real shame to lose it all, so PLEASE matey, be > discrete with access. For an object lesson in what a mess it can be take a > look at Jagshouse (former old mac site, still alive, but minus software > barely). > thankfully, i was able to grab all the goodies from jags house before it was changed. now, i just need a zip drive power supply... DB Young Team OS/2 --> this message printed on recycled disk space view the computers of yesteryear at http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm

24 years, 7 months

DEC GT40 original list price?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Oh, and "MOON LANDER PROGRAM" was *explicity* written on the requisition... > 8-) I have a 8.5 x 11" 50-page glossy brochure from DEC on their PDP-11 line, circa 1977 or so, and on the same page as the GT40 is a stylized lunar lander :-). -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

24 years, 7 months

DEC GT40 original list price?

by cube＠msn.fullfeed.com

Oh, and "MOON LANDER PROGRAM" was *explicity* written on the requisition... 8-) At 10:18 AM 10/3/99 -0500, classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu wrote: >The information I have indicates that the University of Wisconsin paid $10,200 for one in 1975. But that was a bid, and the quote returned indicated that it was a GT40-AA "Demonstrator Model". So, it was probably not new, and was presumably discounted. I actually obtained that machine later on, and restored it. > >By the way, I am curious where you got your lander program... I ask because a few years back, I contacted Jack (via a pointer from the Computer Museum in Boston), and what he had was a 9 -Track tape that he had gotten >from someone who had preserved a copy while he was at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He sent me the tape, and I read it and returned the contents to him, including the lander program, some demo programs, etc. > >Jay Jaeger > >At 09:07 AM 10/3/99 +0000, you wrote: >>Does anyone happen to recall the original price of the DEC GT40 >>graphics terminal? I'm exhibiting one at the VCF, running the >>famouus Lunar Lander game by Jack Burness, and several people have >>asked me what the terminal originally sold for. >> >>Thanks! >>Eric >> >>http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/dec/gt40/ >> > --- Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection Jay.Jaeger(a)msn.fullfeed.com visit http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/~cube

24 years, 7 months

DEC GT40 original list price?

by eric＠brouhaha.com

Does anyone happen to recall the original price of the DEC GT40 graphics terminal? I'm exhibiting one at the VCF, running the famouus Lunar Lander game by Jack Burness, and several people have asked me what the terminal originally sold for. Thanks! Eric http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/dec/gt40/

24 years, 7 months

IBM 3270 PC

by mallison＠konnections.com

I sometimes see the monitors. They're VERY obvious. They are large with an oversize square-ish case and a built in swivel stand. I'm not looking at the monitor right now, so I forget what the plate says on it. But it also has a big red toggle switch. You can see them from miles away. Again, I believe there are other adapter plugs on the board, so other monitors would work... I've been running CPM-86 as well as other weird stuff on it. It's real IBM so that early software runs well and correctly on the 3270... -mike -----Original Message----- From: David Williams <dlw(a)trailingedge.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 8:21 AM Subject: Re: IBM 3270 PC So what people are telling me is this is basically just an XT to me unless I have something that uses 3270 terminals to hook it up to. Then I can use it as a terminal. That is if I can get the special keyboard and monitor. Is that right? Well I did just give a bunch of furniture in my storeroom to my brother which freed up some space. I guess I could hold on to it for a while just in case something turned up. Hmmmm. On 23 Sep 99, at 22:05, Jay Jaeger wrote: > The part quoted below about the display was incorrect. A true 3270 PC > used a special display adapter as well as a special keyboard adapter and > some special expansion memory (cabled to the keyboard adapter, if I recall > correctly). However, you can pull all of that out, and you will have a > more or less standard XT. You can leave the coax card in, if it suits > your fancy, and you have a 327x controller around somewhere... 8-) ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

24 years, 7 months

IBM 3270 PC

by mallison＠konnections.com

I use my 3270 as a standard PC. The display adapter and monitor work fine with all software, even comes up in color with UCSD Pascal. No need to pull the works. -Mike -----Original Message----- From: Jay Jaeger <cube(a)msn.fullfeed.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:06 PM Subject: Re: IBM 3270 PC >The part quoted below about the display was incorrect. A true 3270 PC used >a special display adapter as well as >a special keyboard adapter and some special expansion memory (cabled to the >keyboard adapter, if I recall >correctly). However, you can pull all of that out, and you will have a >more or less standard XT. You can leave the >coax card in, if it suits your fancy, and you have a 327x controller around >somewhere... 8-) > > >Jay > > >At 04:45 AM 9/23/99 -0500, you wrote: >>.The monitor should be a >>regular green or amer mono unless a different video board was used as an >>aftermarket item. > > > >>David Williams wrote: >> >>> Got an urge to go to a thrift I haven't been to in a while and found >>> what was labeled as a 3270 PC. Brought it home and opened it >>> up. Looking at the boards inside I'd guess it was a 3270 PC as the >>> label said. No keyboard or monitor. I'm guessing it used different >>> ones than the normal PC. It has a hard disk, but have to pull it to >>> see what type first and 2 half height 5.25" floppies. Not sure what >>> software is on the drive. Anyone tell me anything else about this? >>> Such as where to locate a keyboard and monitor, what each of the >>> boards might be, etc. I can go into some detail on the cards if >>> need be. Half appear to be normal drive controllers and serial port, >>> etc. Then there is one with a BNC connector and two others that >>> have a small jumper board between them. Should I even keep it? >>> Hmmmm.... >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> ----- >>> David Williams - Computer Packrat >>> dlw(a)trailingedge.com >>> http://www.trailingedge.com >> >--- >Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection >Jay.Jaeger(a)msn.fullfeed.com visit http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/~cube >

24 years, 7 months

IBM System 23 and (2) IBM System 36s for grabs(2) IBM System 36

by Historical＠aol.com

Please contact the person directly with the equipment. Thier message follows: <<My company has some old computer equipment, that I have been instructed to dispose of. Could you put me in contact with someone who might want these old computers? Here is an example of what we are disposing of. IBM System 23 (2) IBM System 36 IBM AT with PC to Sys 36 card (with 62 pin cable) ADP MAX 8500 ADP Micro 2000 Triad TI 300 TI 1000 TI 1500 Motorola Sys3304NY151 Modems (3)NEC N4810II Racal-Vadic Auto Dialer VA212 Codex 2260 Dumb Terminals (5) TI 928 Thanks for your help. You can contact me by phone at (972) 234-4444 ext. 150 Or you can email me at dalbright(a)hbssystems.com>>

24 years, 7 months

Famous Private-Eye Shows You, Make 10K A Month

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Hi, Jim. On Oct 2, 16:26, Jim wrote: > Thanks for taking a good whack at the spam. I have been trying do some spam > whacking myself and have lately been using the free service part of > http://spamcop.net . > > I used spamcop on that same spam message and the spamcop results are found > here: > > http://spamcop.net/sc?id=1116253&crc=178709 It did almost exactly what I did, and arrived at the same conclusion, ie that the mail came from a UUNet dialup and should be reported to abuse-mail(a)uu.net, which is what I did. I got the acknowledgement of my complaint a few minutes later. BTW, it's often the case that ISPs like UUNet respond more strongly if several people complain about the same spammer, so there's nothing to stop anyone else making a similar complaint. You do need to include *all* the headers, though, and preferably the body of the text, too. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

24 years, 7 months

New addition to the collection....PDP-11

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

Just added to my collection from a VERY kind soul who I now owe a favor to... A PDP-11/44. It would appear that inside the cpu chassis is a CIM? card, about 5 cards that make up the cpu, and a memory card. There also looks to be two other cards, one I'm guessing just joins the backplane sections together, and the last looks like a bus terminator of some type. Do I have enough to test and start playing with? I've never seen a Unibus machine, but I'm guessing the CIM is for hooking up a console and getting some type of boot processor program visible? Thanks for any pointers! Jay West

24 years, 7 months

Famous Private-Eye Shows You, Make 10K A Month

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 2, 21:40, cmw0(a)0ngpa8.net wrote: > Subject: Famous Private-Eye Shows You, Make 10K A Month A look at the headers and a few moments with nslookup show that this came >from a dial-up line owned by UUNet, though it was relayed through mciworld.com. I've mailed UUNet to complain, since that was definitely against their conditions of use policy... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

24 years, 7 months

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test-drb October 1999