test-drb October 1999

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I have a M7295 free for the taking (Massbus Control RH11)

by daniel＠internet.look.ca

untested as I never have had a MASSBUS unit. Just email daniel(a)internet.look.ca -----Original Message----- From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Floppy disks again >On Oct 13, 8:34, allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote: > >> I know when NS* offered >> the DD controller one option was 96tpi twosided drives and it was called >> quad density as it was 800k and the same controller single density on >> a 35track single sided (the introductory format) was a whopping 90k! > >I remember *them* well. And I remember the awe at getting Apple DOS 3.3 >140K on the same drive (well, same SS 35 tracks, anyway). > >-- > >Pete Peter Turnbull > Dept. of Computer Science > University of York >

25 years, 2 months

Floppy disks again

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 13, 8:34, allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote: > I know when NS* offered > the DD controller one option was 96tpi twosided drives and it was called > quad density as it was 800k and the same controller single density on > a 35track single sided (the introductory format) was a whopping 90k! I remember *them* well. And I remember the awe at getting Apple DOS 3.3 140K on the same drive (well, same SS 35 tracks, anyway). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 2 months

collectors vs. enthusiasts - I GOT ONE!!!!!

by daniel＠internet.look.ca

-----Original Message----- From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 9:52 PM Subject: Re: collectors vs. enthusiasts >I wrote: >> <rant> >> That's because eBay is where "collectors" hang out. Not people like >> us, for whom collector is an insufficient/inaccurate term. > >"George Currie" <g(a)kurico.com> >> Whereas I agree that there is a differentiation between the >> "collector" and the "enthusiast", I must take umbrage to the ,again, >> generalization of the person who pays "too much" on ebay >> automatically being "collector assholes, just because he had deep >> pockets". > >I don't believe I said anything of the sort. I said that "collectors" >hang out on eBay, but I never said that enthusiasts don't. > >> Are you implying that one must be of modest means to be an >> "enthusiast". > >No, I didn't. I've seen enthusiasts pay enormous amounts of money >for certain items. I've done it myself. What I object to is having >to do it because some non-enthusiast asshole has more dollars than >sense. More about this later. My friend... That is what auctions are all about.. and it's not limited to computers. When I was 17 I was at the Interhauler Yauht backruptsy auction. They had an IBM mainframe and a mini. As the mini was old I was hoping to pick it up for $100 (I was a student). I placed a bid of $50. when all of a sudden the owner from "Kitchens Construction" thinks the machine can be used and placed a bid of $500! I did not have $500 on me.... he was arrogant about the win of his auction... smiled at me and left the room. Little did he know the next auction was for the DISKPACKS for *his* computer. I bought them for $60. I went out to him RIGHT after he won the auction and asked him if he won the bid on the computer. He smurked at me and said "Of Course". I told him (and I can remember my exact words): "Good, I just bought all the software for YOUR computer so I guess you WON'T be using it". His face dropped! He looked down and walked over to the auctioneer to complain. When he couldn't get his way he came over to me and asked me what I was going to do with them. I told him I had a PDP 11 and was going to FORMAT the platters and use them on my system. I knew who he was, I let him stu all night and called him the next day. He bought the diskpacks without the case for $750! > >> If you saw a rare whatnot that you had always loved >> and wanted to tinker with, and had the financial means to acquire >> it, would you let it go to the scrap because you thought the asking >> price was too high? > >No. But I still might complain about the price. > >> Would you let it go to a "collector asshole" >> because you thought the asking price was too high? > >Yes, if the "asking price" was "too high". "Too high" is a >subjective measure. I never buy ANYTHING that I think is priced >"too high". Of course, tommorow's value of "too high" may be >different from today's. > >> Now of course, there are people who would purchase something >> simply for the "coolness" of having it. > >Those are the people that buy perfectly good, working core memory >planes, and destroy them to make wall hangings. Those are the >people for whom I believe there should be a special place reserved >in hell. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion. > >> I fully understand the frustration, but venting it by making >> generalizations of those who happen to be better financially >> equipped than you, or are just willing to pay more for something >> than you, is just immature. > >If complaining about life's injustices is immature, then I'm >immature. But then, so's most everyone else I know. > >In fact, aren't you complaining about me based on some generalization >you've made regarding me? Sounds immature to me. :-) > >> Call the guy who purchased an Altair for $2K an >> asshole/loser collector/not worthy, > >Depends on why he purchased it. Maybe he is, maybe not. But I've >had personal experiences with people who I *KNOW* were just >"collectors" and had no interest in machines other than because >they are "collectable". I.e., they had no experience with the >particular machine, and no real interest in learning about it. >If you don't think those people are assholes, fine. I do. > >Others suggested distinguishing between people who view collecting >as an "investment", vs. people who collect for completeness. I >don't see that as being nearly as useful a distinction, because >there are two kinds of people who collect for completeness. Using >the Atari 8-bit example: > >1) People who want every last Atari model and peripheral because > they actually like and care about Ataris. That still maps to > my "enthusiast" category. > >2) People who want every last Atari model and peripheral because they > happen to think they are collectable, even though they have no real > personal interest in Atari stuff. And they don't really care > whether the machine is in working order, or about keeping it that > way if it is. They may or may not think it is an investment. Yes, > I've met people like that. And that's who I was referring to as a > "collector". Yes, I consider those people to be assholes. That's > my opinion, and I'm not trying to force it on anyone else. > >Obviously I should be more precise in my terminology: I divide people >buying old computers into "enthusiasts" (who might be collectors) and >"non-enthusiast collectors" (who may or may not be "investors"). The >fact that some collectors are also enthusiasts does not make me like the >"non-enthusiast collectors". > >Eric >

25 years, 2 months

Panasonic HHC question

by dchopper＠mindspring.com

I hope this is the correct place to ask this question. If not, please direct me elsewhere. Is there anyone out there that is familiar with the little Panasonic Hand Held Computer (RL-H1000 series) that came out in the early eighties? More specifically, can it be adapted to use some type of conventional printer to bypass the little thermal printer (RL-P1004A) that was designed for it? There seems to be a surprising number of these computers still in use out there in many two-way radio shops. The HHC was the heart of GE's 'suitcase programmer' for setting the frequencies in their early models of synthesized radios. The print heads in these printers fail, so you can't get a printout of the frequency information that has been read >from the radio or going to be written into the radio. It does not make the programmer useless, but it would be handy to be able to get hard copies again. Thanks for any help! - David -

25 years, 2 months

Classic BYTEs for Sale

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

I have a pretty complete series of BYTEs from 1982 until 1998 that need to find a new library to add their immense body of computer history knowledge to. Pricing does not include shipping unless specifically mentioned. Priority will go to buyers wanting to take entire runs (ie. someone wanting to buy an entire year will get priority over someone wanting to buy one or two issues for that year). Please reply directly to <sellam(a)vintage.org> or <dastar(a)wco.com>. Replies to this message to ClassicCmp will not even be seen by me, and will therefore be ignored. Repeat: REPLIES TO CLASSICCMP WILL BE IGNORED. APR,MAY/1982 - $2.00 each JAN-DEC/83 - $2.00 each or $18 for the whole set JAN-DEC/84 - $2.00 each or $18 for the whole set JAN-DEC/85 - $1.50 each or $15 for the whole set JAN-DEC/86 - $1.00 each or $12 for the whole set JAN-DEC/87 - $0.75 each or $5 for the whole set JAN-DEC/88 - $0.50 each or $5 for the whole set JAN-DEC/89 - $0.50 each or $5 for the whole set JAN-DEC/90 - 1.2 * shipping (whole set only please) JAN-DEC/91 - 1.2 * shipping (whole set only please) JAN-DEC/92 - 1.2 * shipping (whole set only please) JAN-DEC/93 - 1.2 * shipping (whole set only please) JAN-DEC/94 - 1.2 * shipping (whole set only please) JAN-DEC/95 - 1.2 * shipping (whole set only please) Also available are these special editions: 1984 IBM PC Special Issue: Guide to the IBM PCs - $3.00 1985 IBM PC Special Issue: Guide to the IBM PCs - $2.00 1986 Extra Edition Guide to the IBM PCs - $1.00 1987 Extra Edition Guide to the IBM PCs - $1.00 1987 Bonus Edition: Applications Software Today - $1.00 1988 IBM Special Edition - $1.00 1989 IBM Special Edition: Redefining the Standards - $1.00 1990 IBM Special Edition: Guideposts for the 90s - $1.00 1991 Extra Edition: Outlook '92 - $1.00 1992 Special Issue: Essential Guide to Windows - $3.00 1992 Special Issue: Essential Guide to Portable Computing - $1.00 1993 Spring '93 Special Issue: Essential Guide to Windows - $1.00 Remember: Reply to <sellam(a)vintage.org> or <dastar(a)wco.com>. To help you decide which issues you want, here's a handy guide that shows the issue topic that is printed on the binding of each issue: 04/82: Human Factors Engineering 08/82: Logo 01/83: Looking Ahead 02/83: Standards 03/83: Mass Storage 04/83: New Chips 05/83: The Electronic Office 06/83: 16-bit Designs 07/83: Videotex 08/83: The C Language 09/83: Portable Computers 10/83: Unix 11/83: Inside the IBM PC 12/83: Easy Software 01/84: 1984 and Beyond 02/84: Benchmarks 03/84: Simulation 04/84: Real-World Interfacing 05/84: Computers and the Professions 06/84: Computers and Education 07/84: Computers and Video 08/84: Modula-2 09/84: Computer Graphics 10/84: Databases 11/84: New Chips 12/84: Communications/Byte Guide to Apple PCs 01/85: Through the Hourglass 02/85: Computing and the Sciences 03/85: Bargain Computing 04/85: Artificial Intelligence 05/85: Multiprocessing 06/85: Programming Techniques 07/85: Computers and Space 08/85: Declarative Languages 09/85: Homebrewing/10th Anniversary (* great historical issue!) 10/85: Simulating Society 11/85: Graphics Hardware 12/85: Computer Conferencing 01/86: Robotics 02/86: Text Processing 03/86: Homebound Computing 04/86: Number Crunching 05/86: Mass Sotrage 06/86: Computers and Music 07/86: Engineer's Toolbox 08/86: Object-Oriented Languages 09/86: The 68000 Family 10/86: Public Domain Powerhouses 11/86: Knowledge Representation 12/86: Graphics Algorithms 01/87: Programmable Hardware 02/87: Educational Computing 03/87: Image Processing 04/87: Instruction Set Strategies 05/87: Desktop Publishing * Internal Modems 06/87: CAD * Mice * 12-Mhz ATs * IBM PS/2 Family 07/87: LANs * IBM PS/2 Models 30,50,60 * CAD Software 08/87: Prolog * 386 Hardware and Software 09/87: Printer Technologies * 80386 System Software 10/87: Heuristic Algorithms * Tandy's New Lineup 11/87: Accelerator Boards * Workstations 12/87: AT Memory Boards * Natural Language Processing 01/88: Database Software * Managing Megabytes 02/88: 14 Multiscan Monitors * LISP 03/88: New Math Coprocessors * Enhanced EGA/VGA Boards 04/88: Memory Management * 24-pin Printers 05/88: CPU Architectures * Word Processors 06/88: New Benchmarks * Ultra-High-Speed Modems 07/88: Multitasking * Fast 40-megabyte Hard Disks 08/88: The C Language * Special Macintosh Supplement 09/88: Display Technology * Postscript Printers 10/88: Hypertext * Affordable 80386s 11/88: Parallel Processing * NeXT * Project Management 12/88: Mac Supplement * Groupware * Benchmark Update 01/89: PC Communications * Annual Awards * Digitizing Tablets 02/89: Personal Workstations * C Compilers * Mac SE/30 03/89: Mac Supplement * 286 vs. 386SX * Object-Oriented Programming 04/89: CASE * UPSes * Graphics Supplement 05/89: Unix * CAD * Technology Breakthroughs 06/89: Mac Supplement * Security * Modems 07/89: 12 GUIs * LAN OSes * Distributed Processing 08/89: 80386-based Portables * Neural Networks * Mac Supplement 09/89: Apricot 80486 * Multiuser Operating Systems * Database Trends 10/89: Mac Portable * Optical Technologies * Optical Storage 11/89: Inside EISA * Beyond VGA * 32 Bits and Above 12/89: 5 New Laptops * Sound and Image Processing * CASE Tools 01/90: Annual Awards * Harddisk Utilities * State of Chips 02/90: Annual Index * Multimedia * Great Spreadsheets 03/90: 26 VGA Monitors * Compaq Systempro * Life within 1 Megabyte 04/90: OS/2 2.0 * Applications Architecture * 386 Roundup 05/90: SQL Servers * Amiga 3000 * Global Text Displays 06/90: Windows 3.0 * Networking * Low-cost LANs 07/90: Computing Without Keyboards * Low-cost Lasers * Reader's Awards 08/90: 386SX Showdown * Inside Windows 3.0 * End-user Programming 09/90: 15th Anniversary Summit * WYSIWYG Word Processors 10/90: DTP * Object-Oriented Computing * Knowledge Engineering 11/90: Mass Storage * Large SCSI Drives * FPUs 12/90: Laser Printer Alternatives * Advanced Graphics 01/91: Annual Awards * Artificial Intelligence * Caching Controllers 02/91: Laptop Technologies * 15 Notebook Computers 03/91: E-mail Software * Network Management * DOS Secrets 04/91: OCR Tools * Soviet Computing * Paperless Offices 05/91: Managing Gigabytes * Nineteen 486/33s * HP 95LX 06/91: 486SX vs. Am386-40 * SX Notebooks * Desktop Multiprocessing 07/91: DOS 5.0 * Wide-Area Networks * Sparc Clones 08/91: Safe Data * 10 Years of Smalltalk * NCR's Pen-based Portable 09/91: 64-bit Computing * 3rd-Generation CD-ROMs * Group Schedulers 10/91: Printer Technologies * Modularity * 9600-BPS Modems 11/91: Interoperability * Momenta * New Macs 12/91: OS/2 2.0 * Multimedia * Presentation Graphics 01/92: 1991 Awards * Databases * Cross-platform Development 02/92: Tomorrow's Processors * PowerPC * Network Servers 03/92: Windows on the Road * Memory & Storage * Spreadsheets 04/92: Natural I/O * Business Graphics * Windows 3.1 05/92: 3-D Computing * Intel's 486DX2 * High-resolution Monitors 06/92: Text Management * Color Printers * Windows Special Report 07/92: Apple's PDA * Portable Libraries * Flatbed Scanners 08/92: Network Analysis Tools * Postscript Printers * Parallel Computing 09/92: Unix * Optical Computing * Notebooks 10/92: Windows NT * Local Bus * Removable Storage 11/92: DSPs * Low-cost PCs * Ultimate Workstations 12/92: 66-Mhz 486DX2s * CPU CHoices * Objects and Users 01/93: 1992 Awards * Machine Translations * Windows Accelerators 02/93: Recordable CD-ROM * Fax Servers * Mobile Communications 03/93: E-mail * Groupware * 600-DPI Printers 04/93: Fighting Fatware * Compression * Visualization 05/93: Pentium * Lab Report: 126 Printers * Security 06/93: Windows * Client/Server Technology * Fast 486s 07/93: Pentium PCs * Data Acquisition * Fast Modems 08/93: PowerPC * 100 Ethernet Cards * Tomorrow's Networks 09/93: Video Computing * Hard Drives * Digital Documents 10/93: First PDAs * Pen and Voice * Notebooks 11/93: Special Report: Windows & OS/2 * Graphics Technology * Printers 12/93: WANs * High-speed 486s * Printer Technology 01/94: Advanced Operating Systems * New Processors * Monitors 02/94: Compression * Graphics Accelerators * Compilers 03/94: The Data Highway * 486-based Portables * Mass Storage 04/94: PowerPCs * Pentium/486 Systems * Object Database Systems 05/94: Componentware * Printers * Wireless Communications 06/94: New 80x86s * Ethernet Adapters * Distributed Computing 07/94: PC-Telephony * 14.4-Kbps Modems * Groupware 08/94: Document Management * High-end Pentiums * Bus Technologies 09/94: Plug and Play * Fast CD-ROM Drives * Internetworking 10/94: Intelligent Networks * Portable Systems * Data Acquisition 11/94: Special Report: Beyond Windows * Printers * New CPUs 12/94: Apple's Gamble * 90-Mhz Pentiums * Networking 01/95: Small-office Computing * Monitors * Color Management 02/95: The New Novell * Graphics Accelerators * Pattern Recognition 03/95: Technology Reshapes Learning * Tape Drives * SOftware Agents 04/95: Intel's P6 * Internet Firewalls * Client/Server Computing 05/95: Mainframes of the Future * Printers * Digital Video 06/95: Mobile Computing * V.34 Modems * Memory Technologies 07/95: The Internet * Ethernet Switching Hubs * 3-D Graphics 08/95: Microsoft * Windows 95 * Internet Servers * Groupware 09/95: 20th Anniversary Special Issue 11/95: Chips * Operating Systems * Network Printers 12/95: Software Reliability * 133 Mhz Pentiums * Games 01/96: Supercomputers * Best of Comdex * Componentware 03/96: Web PC * Web Servers * Multimedia 04/96: Future Computers * Windows 95 * Middleware 05/96: Unix vs. NT * Mobile Computing * WANs 06/96: Electric Money * Ink-jets * Recordable CDs 07/96: Group War * NT * Reader's Choice Awards 08/96: Business on the Net * Tape Libraries * ATM 09/96: No-wait Web * Telephony Boards * Software Quality 10/96: 3-D For Everyone * Notebooks * Network Design 11/96: Java Chips * Dual Pentium Pros * Cairo, Copland, 64-bit Unix 12/96: How Chips Changed the World * Network Printers 01/97: Can Java Replace Windows? * 3-D Workstations * Netware 4.11 04/97: Network Computers * Web Componentware * Java 1.1 05/97: NT 5.0 * SMP Servers * Hostile Applets 06/97: Digital IDs * 56K Modems * Database Programming 07/97: New User Interface * MMX Systems * Memphis 08/97: Energize Your Intranet * New Chips * Extend Your Enterprise 09/97: ActiveX Demystified * 300-Mhz Pentium IIs * Universal Inbox 10/97: Your Next Net * 8 Java Solutions * Pentium II with AGP 11/97: The Orbiting Internet * MMX Notebooks * Secure Windows NT 12/97: Beyond Pentium II * Editor's Choice * Network Computers 01/98: 1998's Top Technologies * 300-Mhz Pentium IIs * Cable Modems 02/98: Disposable PCs * Internet2 * Storage Report 03/98: Reinventing the Web * Netware 5 * 3-D Boards 04/98: Crash-proof Computing * Benchmarks * Color Lasers Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out. VCF East? VCF Europe!? YOU BETCHA!! Stay tuned for more information or contact me to find out how you can participate http://www.vintage.org

25 years, 2 months

collectors vs. enthusiasts

by daniel＠internet.look.ca

-----Original Message----- From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 11:02 PM Subject: Re: collectors vs. enthusiasts > > >Tony Duell wrote: >> >> > >> > > > It's crazy. I can't believe what they are paying on EBay for less >> > > > than *incomplete* systems. I could see $1400 with drives, running, >> > > > tested, manuals, etc... but a shell?????? >> > > >> > > <rant> >> > > That's because eBay is where "collectors" hang out. Not people like >> > > us, for whom collector is an insufficient/inaccurate term. >> > >> > Whereas I agree that there is a differentiation between the >> > "collector" and the "enthusiast", I must take umbrage to the ,again, >> > generalization of the person who pays "too much" on ebay >> > automatically being "collector assholes, just because he had deep >> > pockets". >> >> My main objection to e-bay (and to most other forms of selling, >> actually), is that I don't know who the item is going to be sold to. > >The same could be said about newcomers to this list, and just about anyone I >don't know. This is something only time will correct. The same goes on ebay. >After a while, you see a lot of the same people bidding on stuff. The other >not so minor detail is that people that pay for this stuff will probably not >send it to that junkyard in the sky. > Collecting computers is in it's infancy (for the general population). I don't think owning an old mini with front panel switches will ever go out of style. Stamps first, then cars, now computers.... I don't see these EBayers leaving anytime soon. Just look at the other items... IE: Monopoly games. A 1933 board game fetched $30-40 last year, this year it's over a $100. As more people get online there will be more of that *one* person that just HAS to have the item on the auction block. and for computers... how many Silicon Valley Execs are retiring this year???

25 years, 2 months

collectors vs. enthusiasts

by daniel＠internet.look.ca

George, I agree 100%. If you want something that bad you have to pay for it. Pure and simple. -----Original Message----- From: George Currie <g(a)kurico.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 9:13 PM Subject: Re: collectors vs. enthusiasts > > It's crazy. I can't believe what they are paying on EBay for less > > than *incomplete* systems. I could see $1400 with drives, running, > > tested, manuals, etc... but a shell?????? > > <rant> > That's because eBay is where "collectors" hang out. Not people like > us, for whom collector is an insufficient/inaccurate term. Whereas I agree that there is a differentiation between the "collector" and the "enthusiast", I must take umbrage to the ,again, generalization of the person who pays "too much" on ebay automatically being "collector assholes, just because he had deep pockets". Are you implying that one must be of modest means to be an "enthusiast". If you saw a rare whatnot that you had always loved and wanted to tinker with, and had the financial means to acquire it, would you let it go to the scrap because you thought the asking price was too high? Would you let it go to a "collector asshole" because you thought the asking price was too high? If this is the case then you obviously didn't "want" the item that much or didn't have that much passion for it. Perhaps this activity can be further classified as "bargain vintage computer enthusiast". I am both an enthusiast and a collector. I try to get working what I can, but I don't stop acquiring if I know that I won't have time to get around to something. Maybe a computer has special meaning to me, and I just want to have one, and I have the financial resources to do it, does that make me an asshole? Now of course, there are people who would purchase something simply for the "coolness" of having it. With the advent of ebay, those who have deeper pockets are now playing the game. It's a real bummer having to pay lots for stuff that used to be given to you. But hey, that's life. Is the guy who drives a Ferrari an asshole because you drive a Ford (of course he could be, but not just because he drives the Ferrari of course). I fully understand the frustration, but venting it by making generalizations of those who happen to be better financially equipped than you, or are just willing to pay more for something than you, is just immature. I get just as bummed as anyone else when something that I've been wanting goes for more than what I'm willing to pay ($100 for an HP Integral, nope, don't think so, but dang, I've been wanting one for a very long time now), but at least it's not going to a scrapper (in my opinion, our true enemies). And yes, I know that those who don't have a passion for the item is more likely to scrap it if it's investment value/cool factor diminishes, so no come-backs about this are necessary. Another thing is this whole "if someone paid more than what I think something's worth, then they must be one of these slimeball collector folk" attitude. Before I discovered things like live auctions, ebay was the best/only (or so I thought at the time) to acquire things. If it is your only reasonable source, then of course you would be willing to pay more for something than someone who lives next door to Weird Stuff. Anyway, sorry for the long rant, but this whole "attitude" thing just irks me and I've been averaging like 4 hrs of sleep for the last couple of weeks (new baby + company being bought out) so I guess I'm a bit touchy (and not too coherent). So, whine about how hard it is to get stuff on cheap, fine, I do that all the time (just ask my wife). Call the guy who purchased an Altair for $2K an asshole/loser collector/not worthy, well, anyway, you now know how I feel. George

25 years, 2 months

Support your local Goodwill

by reyes＠orion.ae.utexas.edu

I just came across this site. Here in Austin the Goodwill has vintage stuff for sale and stuff on ebay. http://www.eden.com/~arena/compworks/vintage.htm Not all are good deals but some are right like the Woz GS for $19.95. Ruben

25 years, 2 months

What's the best RS-232 terminal?

by dogas＠leading.net

Anybody have a favorite? Why? - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

25 years, 2 months

Collecting IBM Manuals

by musicman38＠mindspring.com

Glad to hear that others find value in these historical manuals.. > I have collected a few also. The XT and AT manuals have >etched writing on the outside. PC-DOS 3.10 (don't have >3.00) and later in the 3.xx series have a paper cover. >And I have PC-DOS 4.00 in the hard cover manual and the >el-cheapo paper box. So I am assuming that this is where >the hard cover manuals stopped. I think you are right, I have IBM DOS 5.0 but its manual is a Paperback type.. >I have a real nice glass faced wooden book shelf for their display. >Partly for outward viewing and partly to keep the dust out. My collection is centered in the family room and is always the subject of conversation when I have guests over.. All my other reference books and manuals are filed in the garage so I can get to them if I need one in a hurry.. And I have many Boxes full of them.. Phil..

25 years, 2 months

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