test-drb January 1999

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T1200 Laptop network card - was Re: 53rd state was Re: Y2K

by netcafe＠pirie.mtx.net.au

-----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 12:30 Subject: 53rd state was Re: Y2K > Naw, you're not even close to being the 53rd state! We're going after >Puerto Rico right now, the ten Canadian provinces are next, then Mexico. >You guys are way down the list. It must be sad to realize that you follow >even Mexico! > > Sorry, couldn't resist! :-) There's a line there, ah what the heck. Sad is not the word, relieved perhaps! :^) I couldn't resist either. Mind you, looking at TV here, or driving around any medium sized city, and seeing the Kentucky Fried Chicken, McDonalds and Hungry Jacks (=Burger King) outlets, and seeing all the kids roaming around in those silly baggy shorts with their baseball caps on backwards, it's getting hard to tell the difference. At least we still speak real English, despite the school systems apparent inability to teach kids to write and spell in it......... Ahem, to get back on topic, I have a Circa 1989 Toshiba T1200 laptop that has a Puredata 8023 (assume Ethernet) card in the expansion slot. There is nothing for this on the Puredata website, and my email to their support on 30/12/98 has not been responded too (yet). The card has an etch that reads PDT8023 [R] [C] 1989 Pure Data Made in Canada 0060012002 The T in the ident suggests a special (Toshiba?) build. The card has a single BNC socket and a switch marked 0 and 1, which is probably a power on/off function. There are three jumpers marked E1 E2 and E3. E2 has a shorting bridge on it. There is a bar coded sticker on the component side. The sticker is damaged, looks like 002x1945 (digit marked by x is unreadable, possibly a 6 or an 8) Several of the chips on the board have a date and a hex number on a paper sticker on them. Listed below. March 1990 800020000 March 1991 800019100 March 1991 800019702 March 1991 800019801 March 1991 800019900 I'm after some Netware drivers for it. (This is an XT laptop) I've tried the NE1000 drivers to no avail. I'm assuming it uses the IRQ (3) that is reserved for the internal modem. Any help appreciated. Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Room Internet Cafe Port Pirie South Australia. netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au

25 years, 11 months

FW: 11/73 available

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

Found on Usenet. Anyone near the U. of Iowa want to talk to this guy? It sounds kind of beat up, but might make a good parts box. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:17:30 -0600, in vmsnet.pdp-11 you wrote: >>From: Brian Deitte <bdeitte(a)blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> >>Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 >>Subject: Clueless questions about a for sale PDP 11/73 >>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:17:30 -0600 >>Organization: The University of Iowa >>Lines: 18 >>Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.990106150728.112902A-100000(a)black.weeg.uiowa.edu> >>NNTP-Posting-Host: black.weeg.uiowa.edu >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >>X-Sender: bdeitte(a)black.weeg.uiowa.edu >>Path: news1.jps.net!news.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!netnews.com!news-feed.fnsi.net!cyclone.i1.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.uiowa.edu!black.weeg.uiowa.edu!bdeitte >>Xref: news1.jps.net vmsnet.pdp-11:803 >> >>Hello. I've been given a PDP 11/73 that was going to be thrown away. >>I've searched for quite a few hours on the Web for resellers, and all I >>could find was agora and auction-it.net. Any advice on a price range or >>where to look for someone who wants one is appreciated. >> >>If you've read this far, I assume you're interested in some way, so here's >>some extra information: >>According to a a picture I saw somewhere, its a BA23 standing tower. >>I found the following cards: M3106(2), M8017AA, M7546, M7555. >>The front has a TK50 and a Micropolis "Disk Memory Unit" with a S/N >>7074231037. >>Some of pins on back are broken, and the power cord has been snipped, but >>supposedly it worked at its former residence, although I don't even know >>how to test it. >> >>Feel free to send by email if you feel this is irrelevant to this >>newsgroup. Thanks, Brian. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com "...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."

25 years, 11 months

Help (SMS Q-Bus systems)

by dogas＠leading.net

From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> <snippity> Thanks Zane. Looks like I may get my first taste of rt-11. My boat's come in. - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

25 years, 11 months

Message formats

by netcafe＠pirie.mtx.net.au

-----Original Message----- From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 14:43 Subject: Re: Message formats >Again, how typically American! I'm starting to hate American's to the >point I'm looking for another country to move to, since I'm embarrased to >say that I'm an American myself. Anyone know any good countries that I can >move to, and not be embarassed to be associated with? Come on down (under). >The Internet is not an American only thing! No it isn't. I accept that the original concept and the early development work took place in the US. The growth of the net has made it a global phenomenon, though the spam is nearly all American in origin! > >I'd like to point out a few things, my reaction to a message that was about >%30 HTML caused this thread to spring into being. I'm using a e-mail >client that can handle it without any problem, I've also got a dedicated >384k line, so bandwidth isn't a problem for me Lucky boy. That sort of bandwidth is way out of reach of most people in this country. A typical home user would probably have a 28.8 or 33.6k modem, with a few 56k's thrown in. 56k doesn't always work well, heck I'm using a 56k USR modem, but it won't connect to my ISP faster than 33.6k, even though the ISP supports it. Phone line quality most likely. ISDN is available, but it's timed by the second, and frightfully expensive to install, so most ISP's won't allow a dial on demand, they will only do ISDN for a permanent connection. Change ISP's did I hear you say? There are only 2 here. We are in the country ~100 miles from Adelaide, plenty more there, but it's 50c a minute for a long distance call during the day, and it's not a lot different there Since a permanent 33.6k modem line (like this one) costs around $290 a month, and a commercial 64k ISDN permanent is around $1000 a month, you don't see a lot of users on it yet..... Oh yes, our local phone calls are not timed (yet - they keep threatening - mostly because of net users) but the backlash from consumers is keeping them on the back foot - for now. They are not, however, free, it's 30c a call, though a local call in Australia can cover a sizeable area depending what area code you are in. The 08 area code covers the entire state of SA, which is roughly 5 or 6 times the area of the UK. Local calls are roughly a 50 mile radius of the place you call from. Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Room Internet Cafe Port Pirie South Australia. netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au

25 years, 11 months

Help (SMS Q-Bus systems)

by dogas＠leading.net

From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> <snip> Thanks Zane... Being pdp experience deficient, I appreciate the info. I have a 11/93 that I haven't been able to get working yet... I'm looking forward to my first rt-11 experience. - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

25 years, 11 months

Message formats

by netcafe＠pirie.mtx.net.au

-----Original Message----- From: Miles O'Neal <meo(a)netads.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 14:08 Subject: Re: Message formats >Max Eskin said... >| >|TVs require licenses in the UK? What about if you buy a CRT and make your >|own? > >It's illegal, of course. > >Ifthey don't catch you, there's no license fee. > >If they catch you, you're sent to Australia. > >Talk about a win-win situation! For who? We quit taking POME years ago. We still get pom immigrants though......;^) Cheeers Geoff Computer Room Internet Cafe Port Pirie South Australia. netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au

25 years, 11 months

y2k stuff

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

At 05:02 PM 1/6/99 -0800, Sam wrote: >I've also been told by some credit card company call center reps that they >couldn't do something or other for me because the "computer wouldn't let >them". Don't you know a brush-off when you hear it? Employees LOVE to blame things on the computer! Joe

25 years, 11 months

Y2K

by netcafe＠pirie.mtx.net.au

-----Original Message----- From: Barry A. Watzman <Watzman(a)ibm.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, 6 January 1999 14:42 Subject: Y2K >The problem arises simply because people (programmers included) normally write dates in the format >"mm/dd/yy", as in 12/31/99. Not just in computer programs, but in normal, day-to-day lives. It's that simple, >and that is all that there is to it. Only if you live in America. Much of the world (like here, or the UK, New Zealand etc) use dd/mm/yy in their "normal, day-to-day lives." I have personally had numerous headaches with software written (mostly) in the USA where this unwarranted assumption on date useage is hard coded into the damn software. Accounting packages are prime offenders. So is a well known DOS based Fax program. This usually results in users moving to a package that does not make silly assumptions about date useage outside America. I know there are 250+ million of you, but we're not the 53rd state. (Yet anyway) We "ain't gonna" change the way WE do things here. It would make our lives a lot easier if such things were an option, some authors get it right, and allow it to be a config option, sadly, lots don't. Oh, and our financial year is from 1 July to 30 June, not 1 January to 31 December. Had that trouble as well. Grrrr. Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Room Internet Cafe Port Pirie South Australia. netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au

25 years, 11 months

y2k stuff

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/6/99 8:26:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time, rigdonj(a)intellistar.net writes: > >I've also been told by some credit card company call center reps that they > >couldn't do something or other for me because the "computer wouldn't let > >them". > > Don't you know a brush-off when you hear it? Employees LOVE to blame > things on the computer! it's not a brush off, really. in my helpdesk job, computer applications we use wont do certain things unless required info is present or in right format. sure, there are stupid operators, but the computer sometimes is at fault too.

25 years, 11 months

Help

by dogas＠leading.net

Hi folks, I have a chance to pick up some SMS Q-bus systems that were being used as a security entry system. I dont know anything about them and assume (because of the Q-bus moniker) these to be uPDP equivilents. The apparently two computers are in a 19' rack system. I haven't and won't see them until Saturday so that's all the info so far... Please help, anybody know these systems? Thanks - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

25 years, 11 months

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