<Zane H. Healy wrote:
<
<> Number 7?!?!?!? Give me a break, there is no better coffee table than a
<> BA123, unless it's perhaps some of the IBM RS/6000's (and that's all
<> they're good for)
<
<Zane, where do you live? Bill Donzelli and I need to make an
<appointment to come out and hurt you.
It would appear education is best attained with the extended use of 2x4
technology. IE: SMACK!, Listen up!
:) :) :)
Allison
<On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Chuck and Francois wrote:
<
<> >You guessed it the COSMAC Elf! And IIRC, the article was "Build a COSMA
<> >Elf for Less than $100"
<
<Are you guys sure? I'm almost positive that was in Popular Electronics,
<and not Popular Science!
<
<I still say it was the ZX81. What do I win, Alex?
The ELF was introduced in Popular Electronics. the Sinclair was introduced
in Popular Science.
Allison
<Can someone tell me the CP/M command to copy a single file or program
<on my Kaypro from drive B: to drive A:
<I do not want to copy the whole disk just a single file or two..
<Thanks, Phil...
Your gonna hate this...
> PIP B:=A:file.foo
Allison
Yes it was in Popular Electronics that the Cosmac Elf was described.
I would give my vote to the ZX81, THe price is right $99 and I know that it
came as a kit (i built mine in 1982) actually it was my first computer.
-----Original Message-----
From: Miles O'Neal <meo(a)netads.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: Computer collector on Jeopardy!
>Doug Yowza said...
>|
>|I still say it was the ZX81. What do I win, Alex?
>
>I never saw that in a kit form...
>
In a message dated 1/9/99 8:47:47 AM EST, gene(a)ehrich.com writes:
<< It works real well.
My Aptiva 133 failed auto rollover to 2000 test but passed the rest.
It's worth getting a copy.
Don't know if the list carries it but I have attached a copy to this message.
It's a self extracting ZIP file that must be run from DOS. >>
uh, file attachments are a no-no...
www.pc.ibm.com/year2000
is another place to go to download a test program and also a driver that will
autochange the century byte for lazy computer users that wont issue the date
command.
david
Doug's "Ten Reasons Why I Collect Computers" inspired me to start compiling
the Pearls of Wisdom of our list members.
I'll be culling these from our daily e-mail, but if anyone wants to
contribute directly, e-mail me privately. Once I have a page or two, I'll
post it to my Web site for all to read (and laugh at, hopefully).
[ Rich Cini/WUGNET
[ ClubWin!/CW7
[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
[ Collector of "classic" computers
[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/
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At 12:48 PM 1/8/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Jim Strickland wrote:
>
>> > > Shure, today they are no longer produced with typewriters and
>> > > Spiritusumdrucker (sorry missing word - a copyingdevice using
>> > > special sheets and spirit for duplication), but rather on PCs
>> > > or high class DTP stations, but thats just the tool.
>> >
>> > Spiritusumdrucker! What a fantastic word! I think that would be a
>> > mimeograph?
>>
>> I always heard them called ditto machines. Print in blue ink that wipes
off.
>
>Sure but I think the actual latin name for them is mimeograph.
>
>> We had them in grade school. We did NOT have a photocopier - they were
>
>Me too. I used to have ditto duty making copies for the teacher. I also
>used to make up mazes and got to use the machine to make copies for the
>classmates.
>
>> apparently monstrously expensive to purchase and maintain at the time.
>> By the time I got to high school inexpesive photocopiers were readily
>> available, although we used the ditto machines even then. The
>> photocopier was fine for short runs or things where copy quality was
>> important. The ditto machine was faster and much cheaper per copy.
>> Of course I'm sure the ink on the master and the solvent on the
>> machine are carcinogens... (just kidding)
>
>By the time I was in high school dittos were a distant memory. To put it
>in (classiccmp) perspective, by that time inkjets were still on the
>horizon and dot matrix printers were still the shit.
>
>Sellam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>Always being hassled by the man.
>
> Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0
> See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details!
> [Last web site update: 12/27/98]
>
>
The Mimeograph (an Edison invention) used ink, as did the Gestetner (sp?)
while the Ditto used alcohol.
I still have a 1909 Mimeograph in my collection.
Charles E. Fox
Chas E. Fox Video Productions
793 Argyle Rd. Windsor N8Y 3J8 Ont. Canada
email foxvideo(a)wincom.net Homepage http://www.wincom.net/foxvideo
At 10:10 AM 1/8/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
>
>> Shure, today they are no longer produced with typewriters and
>> Spiritusumdrucker (sorry missing word - a copyingdevice using
>> special sheets and spirit for duplication), but rather on PCs
>> or high class DTP stations, but thats just the tool.
>
>Spiritusumdrucker! What a fantastic word! I think that would be a
>mimeograph?
>
>Sellam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>Always being hassled by the man.
>
> Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0
> See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details!
> [Last web site update: 12/27/98]
>
>
That was a DITTO machine, at one time handled by Bell & Howell. They had
to pull them out of the schools around here because the alcohol fumes made
everyone squiffy.
Cheers
Charlie Fox
Charles E. Fox
Chas E. Fox Video Productions
793 Argyle Rd. Windsor N8Y 3J8 Ont. Canada
email foxvideo(a)wincom.net Homepage http://www.wincom.net/foxvideo
I keep reading little pieces of information about this chip. (Actually, it
could be a multi-chip set... I don't know.) Apparently, it's _public-domain
hardware_. What a concept! :) Has anyone actually seen a system based on
this thing?
What? Where did I read about it, you ask? I think it might have been in
_Life with UNIX_, but I really don't remember. And it's too late to do a
Web search. I should really be in bed.
I'm surprised the FSF hasn't bought PD-32 systems en masse. It would be the
perfect platform to run the HURD on.
-- Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, 9 January 1999 9:36
Subject: Re: Y2K stuff
>At 05:33 PM 1/4/99 -0700, you wrote:
>snip<
>An unrelated but similar (and ironically timed) issue is that of the new US
>20 dollar bills. I have seen a lot of vending machines/gas pumps/etc. that
>indicate they cannot handle the new bills.
Are they polymer rather than paper like all ours are now?
>The problem is, bills typically last 18 months at most.
The plastic stuff lasts somewhat longer, one reason why they now use it
here.
To save money, the govt withdrew all coins below 5c, we now have $1 & $2
coins,
and notes for $5, $10, $20, $50 & $100, all plastic with fancy printing and
a transparent
window. Near impossible to counterfeit. (Which is the other reason it was
done)
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au