In a message dated 98-08-24 14:50:19 EDT, you write:
<<
Today I saw an Atari 5?0ST and an 800XL. As I understand, the ST ran
GEM. Is this an interesting computer at all? What about the XL? Was
this one of the BASIC computers? >>
800xl is just a 8bit atari machine. nothing really special about it although
it did have some pretty good sound and graphics similar to the 2600. the 520st
would be worth getting. supposedly ran a pretty good gui and is still used
elsewhere.
--- SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote:
<< Anyone who wants a copy by email, let me know. If you have a PC or are
using
UNIX (anything other than a Mac), tell me what kind of compression to use (I
can create a pkzip archive, if needed). >>
how about putting it somewhere like on a web page or something?
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I did, but you'll starve to death waiting for it to load. ;) That's if you use the Netscape/Acrobat PDF-viewer plugin. If you just want to download it (it's not compressed), that might be better.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~marionba/deserial.pdf
-- MB
Two, not one, two Imsai's with Imsai disk units up for auction on ebay.
Our very own Bob Wood is high bidder on one. Been willin' to sacrifice
alot to get one of them Imsai disk units but when one comes up on Ebay,
I already spent all my budget on other crap :)
Tony
The 520 is a 68000 based GEM machine. From what I understand, it's an OK games machine and really really cool if you're heavy into MIDI.
The 800XL is one of the nicer machines in the expansive Atari 8 bit line.
Tony
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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:45:31 Max Eskin wrote:
>
>Today I saw an Atari 5?0ST and an 800XL. As I understand, the ST ran
>GEM. Is this an interesting computer at all? What about the XL? Was
>this one of the BASIC computers?
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>This is an old auction on eBay I happened to run across. Perhaps this
item is still available:
>MOOG Walter Carlos- Switched on Bach Mint Item #23979261
Was there a reserve? I have one too, from high school days but hardly
in mint condition, it's been played many times. For the last 15 years
I've used a copy on cassette I still play every few months, the 3rd
Brandenburg was a favorite. I also have Switched On Bach II and Sonic
Seasonings. And just to keep it on topic (a stretch), all these were
popular with the late nite programming crowd before the days of
timeshare, when you went down to the university computer lab room where
the keypunches and chess boards were located.
Jack Peacock
Right but the original post was about the PC-MAC network and not the DEC OS
thus the path the thread is taking.
There was also a TOPS for UNIX (Sun 386). Also TOPS could work through
Ethernet (used mostly when UNIX was involved) wich would allow for more that
just PC-MAC networks.
According to the Book "Networking with TOPS" the original version was made
by SUN.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Peacock <peacock(a)simconv.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, August 24, 1998 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: TOPS for PC, from sun
>
>>Well, it says that it is a full networking OS that allows mac's and
>PC's
>to communicate, etc. seems somewhat along the lines of what francois
>has. also has a "secret proprietary etc etc" program disk called
>"RTERM", circa 1985.
>
>Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
>>
>> If it is what I immediately thought it was, (Which it can't be,
>> DEC owned TOPS, not Sun...) *I WANT A COPY!*
>>
>> (TOPS-20 on a PC! The horror!)
>> -------
>
>Seems there is some confusion here. TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 were DEC
>operating systems for the 36-bit DEC-10 and DEC-20 mainframes, circa
>late 60's (DEC-10) thru late 70's (DEC-20). TOPS dies when the VAX came
>out, thought there are vestiges left in VMS.
>
>The TOPS networking cards were essentially Appletalk cards for PCs. It
>was a low speed network using a Z80 SIO (or SCC?) serial USART and
>RS-422 drivers instead of RS-232. IIRC the speed was around
>230Kbits/second (I have one in the back of a closet, haven't looked at
>it for a while). No relation to the TOPS operating system at all.
> Jack Peacock
>
One more. Sorry.
MOOG Walter Carlos- the well tempered synth Item #23980914
Ebay. Again, no bids.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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This is an old auction on eBay I happened to run across. Perhaps this
item is still available:
MOOG Walter Carlos- Switched on Bach Mint Item #23979261
The auction ended with no bids.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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>>So, I'm back from my short (2wks) vacation in Estonia.
>>And I have a new Baby: A Juku. Thats an estonian
>>Z-80 Home computer from 1990 (ok, less than 10 Years,
>>but it fitts well here :). And in fact it is a SU computer,
>>since estonia was still part of the SSSR at this time.
>>Anything beside CPU and PIO ist still discrete TTL. The
>>caracterset is a 8 bit code with ASCII in the lower 128
>>chars and cyrillic and special symbols in the upper 128.
>>CUTE! I also aquired a dual FD and a _mouse_. But I miss
>>the DOS. The previous owner tried to use all Disks in a
>>PC :(((( THere are also no Manuals. So, if anybody knows
>>any additional source of information, pleas give me a
>>hint.
> As usual, I am willing to decode any cyrillic for you.
Oh, decoding cyrillic istn't a real problem - it just
consumes a lot of processing time for my biodynamic
interpreter :)
> No, I haven't heard anything about this, but what does
> this thing look like? Commodoreish?
Hmm - a bit - think of a Dragon after kissed by a steam
roller. It's a 4 MHz Z80A clone with 16 KB dyn mem (max
64 kb), 6 kb video mem (afaI can guess) and integrated
FD controller.
Gruss
H.
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Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
IIRC alot of companies OEMed TOPS from TOPS (the original company) then
Digital once TOPS was acquired.
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois [mailto:fauradon@pclink.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 3:27 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: TOPS for PC, from sun
>
>
> Well actually I have a SUN branded version of TOPS for the
> MAC and a Centram
> branded version for both the PC and the MAC. I guess it's
> going from hand to
> hands or maby on is a clone of the other.I haven't installed
> them yet but
> I'm planning on using them to hook my MACs to my PC network
> with a FlashCard
> on a dedicated PC..
> Francois
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel A. Seagraves <DSEAGRAV(a)toad.xkl.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Date: Sunday, August 23, 1998 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: TOPS for PC, from sun
>
>
> >If it is what I immediately thought it was, (Which it can't be,
> >DEC owned TOPS, not Sun...) *I WANT A COPY!*
> >
> >(TOPS-20 on a PC! The horror!)
> >-------
> >
>
