On Apr 30, 9:40, Christian Fandt wrote:
> By the way, a second, more minor problem was my wife. When I was
describing
> the size of the 9370 system before I brought it home, here eyes got real
> big and she stated: "Just where are you going to put that!??!"
This sounds familiar :-)
> And when I
> got two six foot tall 19"rack cabinets from an old machine controller at
> work that I tore down, I temporarily set them in the new garage sometime
> before we moved in. She spied them, stared at them for a few seconds and
> asked "What are _those_ monstrosities?" I had to do some quick
explaining
Even more familair :-)
> Wish I could afford a heated, insulated garage.
Just leave one or two running, like I do.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
The speakers MIGHT be the problem. There is a pair of them, each
twice the size of an IMSAI, right beneath the macintosh
>
>>
>> I posted this a few weeks back, but noone answered, so I'll ask it
>> again.
>
>Oh, what the heck, I'll make a few guesses...
>
>> There is a certain Macintosh 5400/180 at my school whose hard drive
>> crashed about a month and a half ago. When it tried to start, it
>> wouldn't really seek, just made a ticking noise and the LED would
>
>Is the disk spinning at this point? (feel the drive itself). Is it just
>that the positioner is not geting the heads where they should be?
>
>> flash. So, we took it out, ordered another one. A few days later,
>> it died the same death. So now we have another one. My ethics don't
>> allow me to just put in a hard drive knowing it will be destroyed.
>> What should I do? One hint is that the Macintosh is in a soundproof
>> booth, and is powered from the booth, which is plugged in. But, the
>> mac is plugged in via a "surge protector".
>> Ideas? Could it be bad power? Any way to check?
>
>It _could_ be a PSU problem, but IMHO it's unlikely, unless other parts
>of the mac are failing as well. If the disk is spinning and the rest of
>the mac is OK, I'd not suspect power problems at this time.
>
>Are there any strong magnetic fields (say _large_ speakers) very close
to
>it? I'm wondering if the servo information on the disks is being
>corrupted so the positioner can't lock onto a track.
>
>-tony
>
>
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>Some sick minded person might gut a NeXT cube and use it as >a little
stool for flowers at an exhibit of abstract art ;) >
In the early S-100 days (1975) the engineering lab I worked in got an
early Altair (we needed small cheap computers to embed in environmental
monitoring instruments). A few months later we got one of the first
IMSAIs. After about 3 minutes of comparing the two, we voted to use
IMSAIs and the Altair was relegated to being the doorstop for the lab
doors. I assume it wound up in a surplus action some number of years
after I left. BTW, the embedded controller we actually used in the
instruments was a single board Intel 8080, their evaluation kit board,
the precursor to Multibus. We used the IMSAIs to develop and test the
code in the lab.
Jack Peacock
Well, I recall from The Secret Guide To Computers that early
Timex Sinclairs were used as doorstops at Timex (or whatever).
Some sick minded person might gut a NeXT cube and use it as a
little stool for flowers at an exhibit of abstract art ;)
>
>At 08:56 30-04-98 -0600, "Jeff Kaneko" <Jeff.Kaneko(a)ifrsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At 17:30 29-04-98 +0000, Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk wrote:
>>> >Doug:
>>> >
>>> >> Is the reason those old radio/phonograph boxes are not being
thrown
>>> >> away is that noone notice the cover and thinks it's just a pretty
> --- snippers ---
>
>>> There were folks who took a late-20's/early 30's radio which was
built into
>>> a beautiful wooden cabinet and turned it into a piece of furniture
by
>>> gutting it. Then there were the late 40's and early 50's TV cabinets
which
>>> met the same fate. At least I've rescued several of each of these
kinds of
>>> receivers for my collection.
>>
>>Then there was this girl I was dating while I lived in Baltimore in
>>the early 80's. Her dad had a vintage (early 20th cent.)'magneto'
>>(u-crank-it) telephone he mounted on the wall in their basement as a
>>conversation piece. He felt it was 'too heavy' so before mounting
>>it he gutted the thing. So many historic relics have been destroyed
>>in the name of 'interior decoration'.
>
>Some people have no clue. But in retrospect to that statement, those
people
>are probably not technically oriented like we are so there is no
awareness
>of anything's actual worth as a technological collectable.
>
>Thankfully, the metal/plastic boxes our old computers were made with
have
>virtually no value as 'interior decorations' (yet). However, there
could be
>exceptions for maybe a couple of models. I recall some list members
here
>had commented upon some as being rather attractive in appearance. I
haven't
>come across those yet.
>
>
>
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Does anyone know the production figures for
either the Altair 8800, the Imsai 8080 or
the Processor Tech SOL 20? If actual numbers
are not available I would really appreciate
getting an educated guess.
Thanks much,
Bob
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I used to subscribe to this list but my mailbox couldn't take it. I
guess if you'reading this, it got through.
I'm selling a Mac 128 on eBay. The bid is up to about $60 and the
auction ends today. If anyone is interested in it just go to the link
below and bid through the auction. You will have to pay shipping so keep
that in mind.
11941337: Original Macintosh! 128K / KB / FD / More!
Current bid: $51.00
Auction ends on: 04/30/98 18:31:45 PDT
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=11941337
I also have another 128 that seems to work but has a dead screen. And a
pile of the external floppy drives (3 I think). Includes keyboard and
mouse. Accepting offers.
I've never seen an 80W power supply. All original IBM 5150 PC's I
worked on had a 63W power supply and the IBM XT's all had a 130W power
supply. You mentioned your supply has a 220V selection? If so and you
are stateside, make certain it is in the 110V position. If you have a
220V power supply that doesn't have a 110V selection and you're
stateside... you're out of luck. I concur with all those previous
respondents that this supply of yours is most likely good but loaded
down either by excessive loading (more cards/memory/drives than the
P/S can service) or a short circuit in one of the add-on boards or
drives. Just unload until you find the cause.
Marty
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Subject: Re: XT Power Supply help...
Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date: 4/29/98 11:34 PM
That's odd. My power supply's 130W. It's also the 220v variety, as that's
what's available here. It was made in Dublin, Ireland. It really looks
like it was how it was made, as it looks REALLY built-in to the case.
Anyway, I can't see any reason that it would be dememanding too much power,
all I have connected is a XT clone motherboard, (however, it WAS sitting in
an XT case) and a XT floppy drive connected. So, any ideas? I think that
it was just this PS's time to go.... and it was two weeks one day older than
I am!
Thanks for the help. I might need a new PSU, as I'm not good at this
type of thing. After testing it with a dummy load, just a HDD, and a FDD
(one at a time), and rechecking all my power connections, I think that it
REALLY is dead.
Thanks,
Tim D. Hotze
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To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
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Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: XT Power Supply help...
>In a message dated 98-04-29 16:12:26 EDT, you write:
>
><< > >> Hi. After getting a new M Board for my XT and a load of cards, I
>found
> > >>that
> > >> my Power Supply's now completely dead. So, where to I start? No
fan,
> > >>moves
> > >> a turn or two, I know that the power connections good.
> >
> > Could you simply be overloading it? >>
>as long as its an xt power supply and not one from a 5150 pc, there should
be
>no problems. the 5150 was only 63watts, which was good for maybe floppy
>drives. the xt has an ~80 watt power supply so there shouldnt be any danger
of
>overloading unless it was dodgy to begin with. ive a loaded up xt and the
>power supply handles it just fine.
>
>david
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>
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That's odd. My power supply's 130W. It's also the 220v variety, as that's
what's available here. It was made in Dublin, Ireland. It really looks
like it was how it was made, as it looks REALLY built-in to the case.
Anyway, I can't see any reason that it would be dememanding too much power,
all I have connected is a XT clone motherboard, (however, it WAS sitting in
an XT case) and a XT floppy drive connected. So, any ideas? I think that
it was just this PS's time to go.... and it was two weeks one day older than
I am!
Thanks for the help. I might need a new PSU, as I'm not good at this
type of thing. After testing it with a dummy load, just a HDD, and a FDD
(one at a time), and rechecking all my power connections, I think that it
REALLY is dead.
Thanks,
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: SUPRDAVE <SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: XT Power Supply help...
>In a message dated 98-04-29 16:12:26 EDT, you write:
>
><< > >> Hi. After getting a new M Board for my XT and a load of cards, I
>found
> > >>that
> > >> my Power Supply's now completely dead. So, where to I start? No
fan,
> > >>moves
> > >> a turn or two, I know that the power connections good.
> >
> > Could you simply be overloading it? >>
>as long as its an xt power supply and not one from a 5150 pc, there should
be
>no problems. the 5150 was only 63watts, which was good for maybe floppy
>drives. the xt has an ~80 watt power supply so there shouldnt be any danger
of
>overloading unless it was dodgy to begin with. ive a loaded up xt and the
>power supply handles it just fine.
>
>david
Yep, Apple Records. Actually, it was founded by Paul Macarthney (however
you spell it) and John Lenon, the Beatles. Their idea was to have people
coming in, and doing what they wanted, getting profits for their records,
and not having to go beg the brass at some corporation. They lost more and
more money, into the 80's, when they were "eaten up" by Capitol records.
The Beatles CD's available now from capitol still feature the Apple logo
(not Apple Computer), and the CD's also have it.
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
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From: SUPRDAVE <SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: The PC's Soviet?
>In a message dated 98-04-30 00:39:32 EDT, you write:
>
><< Heck, wasn't the name "Apple" licensed from the British record company
of
> the same name (Apple the computer company could use the name as long as
> they didn't get into the music business. . .which made things get
> interesting when people started doing MIDI stuff with Macs . . .)
> >>
>
>yea, wasnt it the beatles who had something called apple records or
something
>like that? i remember reading somewhere sometime long ago about the
legalities
>of it. obviously, apple records got precedence because they were there
first.
>did apple computer ever have to pay money for the resolution?
>
>david
