Russ and list
I admit to a bad mail day.
The bickering between Enrico and Cord, was another area where TWICE I wrote
a reply to the list and successfully staid my hand. I thought some were
using the list as a profit making exercise, and I apologise for this error.
I would still like to see prices kept private and simply "contact me if
you're interested", but of course that is a matter of personal preference.
I think we can close this thread, no?
A
I'm supposed to be playing with Windows NT Server now... (BLEAH!)
But the hardware guys are playing around, and they won't build my server. They have all the parts. So, I started scrounging around myslef...
Found a 486DX4/100, 16 meg or RAM, etc...
But a proper case was nowhere to be found!
So I got me a cardboard box and some masking tape...
:)
I showed the result to our upstream admin, and we was laughing so hard we has almost crying...
It's SERVER IN A BOX!
(If you can call it that...)
My boss says it's OK as long as I power it off when I leave, so it doesn't
catch fire.
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>> I'm supposed to be playing with Windows NT Server now... (BLEAH!)
> You GOT it, Seagraves. Seriously.
>
> In Yuk factor, this NT really take the cake. Took my boss months to
> learn and setup a NT server and 1,000's of reboots, each changes even
> one requires reboot. And a one dead PC too and few cards blown
> along with few boards that NT hates! I think I might able master
> Linux with good docs in very significent shorter time with more
> changes between fewer reboots.
We're being migrated to Windows Not Tolerable tomorrow, here at Power
Tech. Wish me luck, or pray for me to any god you think might answer...
Philip.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Philip Belben <><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Bloedem Volke unverstaendlich treiben wir des Lebens Spiel.
Grade das, was unabwendlich fruchtet unserm Spott als Ziel.
Magst es Kinder-Rache nennen an des Daseins tiefem Ernst;
Wirst das Leben besser kennen, wenn du uns verstehen lernst.
Poem by Christian Morgenstern - Message by Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk
PS I like the server in a box! Keep up the good work! P.
I have a GOB of manuals with software in 5.25" (and one 3.5") disks for
an IBM System 36. Here's a list of what's involved...
(D) denotes disks (N) notebook/looseleaf (W) wirebound (V) Vinyl
Folder
Small format books:
1) PC Support/36 technical reference, IBM SC21-9097-3 (N)
2) IBM System/36 Procedures and Commands Summary SC21-9024-2 (W)
SC21-9024-5 (W)
3) Getting Started with System/36 PC, SC21-9267-0 by SRA (D) (V)
Large format books:
1) 5364 System Unit Maint Info, System/36, SY31-9020-1 & 9027-0 (D)
(N)
2) Preparing to Install Your System 5364, IBM S/36 PC, SC21-9084-0 (D)
(N)
Setting Up Your Computer 5364, IBM S/36 PC, SA21-9505-0
Guide To Optional Equipment 5364, IBM S/36 PC, GX21-9817-1
3) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC System Support Prgramming, Configuration &
Sort ZC21-9148 (N)
4) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC Communications Features, Feature 6047,
ZC21-9155 (N) (D)
5) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC System Support Programming, 5727-SS6 Messages,
ZC21-9149 (N)
6) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC System Support Programming, 5727-SS6,
Operating Security,
ZC21-9147 (N)
7) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC Utilities, 5727-UT6, SDA/SEU/DFU, ZC21-9197
(N)
8) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC Utilities, 5727-UT6, WSU/Messages, ZC21-9198
9) Disk Set - IBM S/36 PC System Support Programming, 5727-SS6,
Diskettes, ZC21-9150
(N)(D) (40 +)
ALSO included: AST 5251/11 - IBM PC to System 34/36/38 Computer
Communications outfit. New, unused, in the box. Includes PC and
S/34/36/38 5.25 and 8" disks as well as the cable and interface unit for
the PC.
So there it is....The total weight of all the binders, pages, disks,
disk holders, etc is roughly 50 lbs. The 5251/11 enhanced S34/36/38 set
which is another 10 lbs. Can be packed in separate cartons or in one 60
lb box. One box is cheaper to ship, of course.
How much? $100 plus shipping for ALL the books and 5251/11 outfit plus
shipping. I've had a few serious inquiries but no definitive answer back
and I need the space. I paid $90 for this stuff myself so I'm making a
few bucks basically to cover my gas in running it to the shipping point
and my material in packing them. I don't mind getting this stuff to
redistribute to people that need it as I know this stuff is getting hard
to find. Otherwise you know where it would go.
First one to contact me and actually send a money order (after contact)
gets them. I'll need your zip code to figure shipping fees when you
contact me.
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RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com
Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/
ICQ # 1714857
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Hi All,
Has anyone had any experience with a Diamond D5 wordprocessor? Has
anyone even *heard* of such a beast?
One was donated to me a while ago after standing unused in a garage for
a few years - apparently it was working when it went into store.
However, nowadays if I put the system disk into the drive it seeks the
heads, spins a couple of times, then all goes silent.
There's no cursor or anything on the monitor, but having never seen the
machine working myself I don't know if it should display anything at all
before a successful boot completes.
Basically I'm after more information before I can seriously start
thinking about getting this thing going. Obviously I don't even know if
the system disks are still good, let alone what sort of hardware faults
exist inside...
thanks for *any* help with this thing!!
cheers
Jules
I have just bought an almost-new condition fully kitted out Dick Smith
System 80 - this was an Australian-sold clone of the TRS-80.
The system consists of a console with included tape player, an S-100
expansion box and two 200K 5.25" floppy drives. The receipt dated September
1982 was in one of the boxes (all original packing) along with all
connectors. The expansion box contains an extra 32K RAM (total 48K) and
connecting cables to the main system, the two drives (each one a separate
stock item, one "Disk 0" and the other "Disk 1") and to a Centronics
printer.
Price asked in a charity shop was $10 each for the two big boxes and $5 each
for the two drives. Not too bad, and you can't argue too much when the money
is going to a good cause! But absolutely no documentation.
The basic system works OK. What I want to know is how to connect up the
expansion box to the main box and the drives. The connecting cables are
standard flat multi-strand cable with the Pin 1 side marked in red. But
which is Pin 1 at the connection blocks? I don't want to kill this
beautifully clean unit by connecting it up backwards! If someone could tell
me which end of each of the connection blocks on the back of the console, on
the S-100 box and on the disk drives is the Pin 1 end, I would be grateful.
Phil
You might if you had been had by someone in this list. If the man is a con, I
think I am doing a public service here trying to stop him to strike again with
somebody else.
Thank you
enrico
lisard(a)zetnet.co.uk wrote:
>
> On 1998-04-07 classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu said to lisard(a)zetnet.co.uk
> :Warning! You might get something different from what you have
> :bidded for. I did.
>
> keep your bitching private. nobody else gives a toss.
> --
> Communa (together) we remember... we'll see you falling
> you know soft spoken changes nothing to sing within her...
--
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Enrico Tedeschi, 54 Easthill Drive, Brighton BN41 2FD, UK
Tel/fax(+01273) 701650 (24 hours) and 0498 692465 (mobile)
please visit my website at: <http://www.brighton-uk.com>
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This came off a web classifieds page:
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IBM SYSTEM/36 MODEL 5360, $100/OBO, Used
Description
MIDRANGE COMPUTER FULLY FUNCTIONAL WITH 5225 MODEL 2
PRINTER
For sale by private party
(718) 863-9651
fma
bronx, New York 10462
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mor(a)crl.com
http://www.crl.com/~mor/
OK, I'm stumped. What are the switch setting for the 4-switch DIP switch
on the back of a RRD-40 drive? I managed to come up with a working
configuration, but how safe is SCSI address 0 under VMS? I know the
Hobbyist CD at least boots through the hardware search in Standalone backup
(didn't have time to install tonite). Also what's the 4th switch for?
Thanks,
Zane
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
| healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |
| For the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. |
| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/museum.html |
I would note that I have already claimed these items, about a week ago, but
the Olivetti things are still available. Thanks, Sam, for the heads-up.
Cheers
A
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 3:55 PM
Subject: (fwd) Obsolete computers looking for a home! (fwd)
>
>For you blokes down under.
>
>
>Plus, I have a number of Olivetti M24, M28, & M280 systems
>to get rid off, same deal.
For you blokes down under.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: R.Alphey(a)forestry.unimelb.edu.au (Russell J. Alphey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,aus.computers
Subject: Obsolete computers looking for a home!
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:34:46 GMT
Organization: School of Forestry, University of Melbourne
It's time to clean up the spare room...
These computers are available, free to a good home. Note
that they are all in Melbourne, Australia. Shipping at
new owner's cost! :)
1. Labtam CP/M system, with 8086 processor board add-in.
Single 8" drive, with built-in monitor.
2. Micromation multiuser CP/M system. Has 4 processor boards,
plus serial terminals. 20 Mb hard drive, dual 8" drives, QIC-24
tape unit.
3. 2* ??? CP/M systems, monitors have WOODEN sides! Come with
processor unit, plus 2 * DISCUS 8" drives.
All systems come with boot disks.
Plus, I have a number of Olivetti M24, M28, & M280 systems
to get rid off, same deal.
Contact me by email to arrange something. I'm not going to
wait too long before "dumping" these machines...
R.
R.Alphey(a)forestry.unimelb.edu.au
-- end of forwarded message --
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Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Don't blame me...I voted for Satan.
Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0
See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
At 01:04 AM 4/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I've held onto machines that I would've happily given away except for the
>time involved to go through the stuff on the hard disk and clean it up.
[...]
>What the world needs is a painless one button backup-and-clean program.
Or a belief that they can turn the machine over to a reputable
collector/museum who will do it for them.
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
At 01:25 AM 4/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> Except, that people may feel it's easier (and/or safer) to just destroy the
>> machine than it is to try and make sure no one can read their data. What
>
>It's rarely done, most people aren't that superstitious of electronic
machines.
Perhaps not in the past, but now that the average village idiot is using
quicken and tax programs... They may not have used Dad's imsai, but they
don't know that his old tax returns aren't in that old box.
>> I agree that people should be responsible for their own data, but I also
>> feel that we, as collectors, need to hold ourselves to a higher standard,
>> so that people will feel comfortable giving us their old machines.
>
>If they actually gave us the machines. Most times they're swapped or sold
cheaply.
Whether or not they give them for free or for $, they have to feel
comfortable doing it, or they won't do it.
>Bad similarity...no one is paying you for confidentiality.
Okay, surely you know someone to whom you don't tell anything personal
because you know it'll be all over the office/neighborhood/local news
within the hour. If people don't believe they can turn over their
computers without having to worry about their tax returns showing up on the
internet, they won't do it.
>> Most of the people here probably know how to wipe a hard drive so it can't
>> be read. (My best guess is a low-level format, then fill it with worthless
>> data? Good thing I have nothing to hide!) But the average AOL user
>> doesn't. When Grandpa passes on, you don't want the grandkids trashing all
>And many have had to use level 3 read/write data destruction if they've
worked for
>the government. If the goverment is required to insure a clean machine to the
>point of even installing a new hard disk prior to public sale, why should the
>average Joe be protected in his or her sloppy handling of their private
matters.
>If you get right down to it they risk public viewing just by installing
anything
>on the hard disk and connecting to the net.
I'm not advocating responsibility for the user's sake. If you care about
the neighbors seeing you nekkid, pull down the damn shades. The reason I
advocate it is because I don't want my neighbors boarding up their windows
because they don't know if pulling down the shades is enough.
I don't want people trashing significant machines because they heard about
someone who knew someone who had a friend who heard about someone who gave
a computer to a collector, and then those quickcam pics of the wife au
naturel (that he thought he deleted) ended up on the 'net. Whether or not
its true, and whether or not someone has pics like that, doesn't matter.
The technoidiots will trash machines rather than take any risks.
Don't believe me? Ever heard of the Good Times virus?
>Not more of the one, but a picture or two of each machine. I realize
you're just
>working on the site but a picture really makes the site interesting to
those not
>familiar with the machines. A prefect example is the dual drive on a
Rainbow. How
>many people can even grasp the thought of putting a floppy in right way in
one
>slot, upside down in the other?
I'm working on that. I've got 6 rolls of film to go to Price Club this
week. Then I have to scan them, edit/crop/resize them, build a list of the
pics (with dimensions and captions), come up with some snappy text, look
for some links, and dig up the specs of the machine so I can build the web
page. Whew. Don't worry, I'll get there. 8^)
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
>qty. 1 - Compaq Deskpro 386/20e - $20.00
>
>qty. 1 - Compaq Deskpro 433i - $30.00
OK... are either of these spoken for? Do you know the stats for these? How
much RAM, HDD (if any) space, disk drives, etc, and does that include a
monitor? (And, if you can find it, what is the video card, etc.)
Thanks,
Tim D. Hotze
<Well, I'm just thinking odd thoughts right now(specifically about
<converting a CB radio I have to the 10m amateur band), but if you can
If you need a hand I can help with that.
<figure out all the output voltages that the computer uses, than it
<shouldn't be too hard to either build several power supplies to handle th
<large amounts of power it needs, or perhaps re-wind the main power
<transformers(or just replace them with somethign that has the same output
<Which brings me to another thought, what IS the output voltage of the pow
<supply/transformer(s)? And of course, if the hard(and floppy) drive motor
<need 220v, you can also look for replacement motors that run on 110v.
<That's what I'm going to need to do for my Series/1.
Not that trivial as the system has a fair amount of pwer sequencing and
power good logic tied to the front panel and power system. besides where
to you find a 110Vac to 5V@ 30+amps floating around. That and any fans
and motors that may use 220v. THere is a lack of data on that and no way
to power it to determine if thats is the case.
Allison
This was on the Obsolete Computer helpline and I just knew someone here
could write this person to help...
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lucien stevens <lust(a)village.uunet.be>
belgium - Tuesday, April 07, 1998 at 15:52:57
i have a dec pdp11/53
can someone tell me how to connect an ascii terminal or a pc with a
terminal program to make the pdp11 work.
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Russ Blakeman
RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com
Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/
ICQ # 1714857
* Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers*
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Maynard Gelinas [mailto:maynard@jmg.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 2:06 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: NOS Bare Boards: What to do?
>
> BTW: anyone remember a BYTE article on the SwTPC sometime in
> '78 regarding a very eary voice recognition and voice synth system
> connected to house controls? I seem to remember that the upshot of it
> was that it didn't work well and the poor author wound up showing off
> his undershorts because the system misrecognized a command and opened
> up the garage door at an inopportune time.... Maybe it was a Kilobaud
> issue???? I'm pretty hazy on this, but I remember it made a big
> impression on me as a kid.
Yes I remember the article (it was humor) because a friend asked if I
could build the same thing for him. I think it was Popular Electronics,
there were no tech details so I'm sure it wasn't BYTE or KILOBAUD.
Anyway, I was skeptical that it was real so I told my friend to contact
the author before I took any of his money. My friend contacted the
author for details. The author admitted he had embellished the
capabilities and the article was more fiction than fact, although
theoretically possible to do at the time.
Jack Peacock
I got to meet Max today and see the S34.
Nice machine is fair condition. His problem is that it's wired for 208
and from what I could observe all the transformer primaries are limited
to the 200V range (208/220/240). Can some one up on S34s confirm that?
All the power comes from three feroresonant transformers (CVTs) which
explains the 580v warning (across the resonating capacitor).
It would seem the only way to power it off 117v line is tansformer
of the 1000-2000va size. I suspect the smaller will work as this
machine while complete is not "loaded". It's biggest disk is an
internal 69mb 8" with what appears to be a DC spindle. Anyhow for
power it expects a single phase 208 L-L connection so a auto transformer
may do it.
It's been a while since I've seens linear regulators or possibly low
voltage switchers of this size.
Allison
<> > My favorite graph on the data sheet is "Number of pins remaining
<> > vs. number of socket insertions". (Wasn't this originally published
<> > in an April 1 issue of _Electronics_ in the 70's?)
<>
<> And the Vff .vs. Iff graph, complete with burn-out just after 6.3V....
<
<I wonder what fraction of new EE graduates today would recognize the
<significance of 6.3 VAC?
or 12.6vac or historically 12.6,12.6,12.6,35,50 (all Vac).
Allison
In message "CLASSICCMP digest 375", John Rollins <rexstout(a)uswest.net>
writes:
>Third card is another one from Intel, labeled "iSBC 576", with another
>8086, two connectors on the top, and an SBC576 daughtercard.
I checked my Intel "OEM Boards and Systems Handbook (1988)" but cannot
identify this card, although the book lists many other Multibus boards.
Intel sold their Multibus interests to Radisys some time back; they're
on the web and maybe they can help. Both National Semiconductor and
NEC made Multibus board clones, often with similar part numbers, so you
might get lucky finding info if you're persistent.
>Fourth card is a PROSE 2000, with a 26-pin edge connector and another
>connector, and a bunch of EPROMs marked "Speech Plus (c)1983", and yet
>another 8086 chip. Looks like the company name is Speech Plus Inc. I guess
>this is a speech synth.
Strange coincidence! I recently rescued one of these from a scrapyard
(it was literally waiting to be ground up into metallic dust). Yes, it's
a text-to-speech board, but I haven't had any success finding
application data. The company that made it, Telesensory Systems, does
still exist and I did call them looking for information. They were
cordial, but could not help because the board was just too ancient for
their support staff to have any useful knowledge about it. Too bad; I
thought it might be welcomed by one of my local charities. I don't have
Telesensory's phone number here but try a web search. If you can't find
them let me know and I'll see if I can retrieve the number. Please keep
me in mind if you do manage to track down some information on it.
--
Arlen Michaels
Nortel
Ottawa, Canada (613) 763-2568 amichael(a)nortel.ca
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hotze [mailto:photze@batelco.com.bh]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 12:42 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: FW: Y2K
>
>
> It very well might be running today. Not doing the hardlabor
> tasks that it was origiohnally made for, but possibly as someone's
hobby.
> Anyway, five years, and accelarating is a odd estimate. PC's nearly 3
or
> 4 years old are used day to day, as primary computer systems. The
> origionally cost around $2,000, and now can be effectively replaced
for around
> $500-$800, yet they haven't. Sure, high end servers are still being
produced, and in some institutions (even if I can't name any) are
updated monthly or so with their server technology.
Being from the Big Iron era (Univac 1100s and CDC 6000s), I can assure
you no one ever believed any of those machines would last for 30 years.
We knew the "fourth generation" computers based on large scale
integration were coming, although what was expected was the bit slice
type logic, not integrated microprocessors. No one ever questioned
using 2 digit dates, because the programs weren't going to be used for
30 years. After all, how many 30 year old computers were still running
in 1975? Back then a "legacy" program was supporting Autocoder from the
60s. Ten years was ancient and obsolete.
Even in the 80's I saw very few software applications that switched to 4
digit dates. Our company converted to all 4 digit year dates in 1987,
primarily because we were revising our major packages, plus we wanted to
be compatible with some applications we OEMed along with our own
software. Even in 87 I didn't think our programs would still be in use
in 2000, but suprise, they will be. Was it brilliant foresight we
converted way back then? Not really, more like plain dumb luck. But
disk and memory were getting much cheaper by then, we could afford to
use the extra space. When we only had 5MB drives and 16KB partitions
the savings on 2 digit dates was significant, but once we had 100MB+
drives and virtual memory that was no longer an issue.
Jack Peacock
OK.. so, I admit, I wasn't even around then. I've never seen big iron in my
life, and as far as I know, the school's still running on the Compaq PPro
200 that we got a while back. But here's my .02 on what would think in that
same posisiton:
>I know I was asking some of my friends what was going to happen as far
>back as in the late 60' and early 70s when as high schools and college
>students we were asking what happens if this machine should still be
>running in the year 2000? Some of us considered that unlikely as the
>pace for new machines at the time suggested it's life was maybe five
>years and that pace was accelerating.
It very well might be running today. Not doing the hardlabor tasks that it
was origiohnally made for, but possibly as someone's hobby. Anyway, five
years, and accelarating is a odd estimate. PC's nearly 3 or 4 years old are
used day to day, as primary computer systems. The origionally cost around
$2,000, and now can be effectively replaced for around $500-$800, yet they
haven't. Sure, high end servers are still being produced, and in some
institutions (even if I can't name any) are updated monthly or so with their
server technology.
What worries me is that around 2025, a system should last as long as you
want it, as the speeds will probably be at the speed of light across the
board, so there's no wait state. It's as fast as the software that you
choose for it. The systems won't become obsolete. I personally belive that
it's then that the speed of light will be broken, but I can't prove that,
other than the belief that we will continue to grow and outcome obsticles.
What then?
Just my opinion,
Tim D. Hotze
Well, I finally got around to looking at the terminal PC that came with
the Cadnetix workstation. Turns out it's a pretty kick-ass Sperry 286
PC/IT, with some nifty stuff. A Genoa 4850 video card, which my info says
can display 800x600, an SIIG FK3459 I/O board, a Rybs Electronics HicardAT
memory board, a WDC 1002-WAH HD controller and 20meg HD, and a net card to
boot. It also has 1 meg on the board and the math coprocessor installed as
well.
The little bit I could find on the video card claims that it uses a
multisync monitor. It has the two rca jacks and a db-9; how do I wire an
adapter for db-9 to hd-15?
Thanks,
Aaron
BTW, I also got a couple hundred 5 1/4 floppies with it, including 2
complete sets of SCO OpenWindows 1.0.0.y; anyone want one?
Hello. Ive recntly gotten a NEC PC Engine system, about 6"x6"x1" in size.
It has a port that's around the size of a PS/2 port, but with different
connections. The system uses a cool-looking card system, labeled as HuCARD,
and I've got two games, PAC-LAND and a game that's entirely in Japanese
labeled as THEthen lots in Japanese, I'll try to scan it in later, in a
monocrome format.
On the bottom, it says NEC PCEngine
Japanese, then at the far right, it says PI-TG001 , then one line down, more
Japanese writing, then at the far right, 4W writen. Then, another line
down, it has Japanese, then at the far right, (PAD-105,PAD-106)
Then there's an entire line of Japanese writing, then another line down, the
words MADE IN JAPAN. Below that, in another indent, is the number that was
pin-printed as 8Z14066H .
At the right of the system, there's a port labeled ANT SWITCH, which I'm
guessing I connect to a TV monitor. There's no port for sound. On the same
location on the left, there's a thing labeled AC ADAPTER, which I don't
currently have. Can I use a Nintendo adapter for this? A Sega?
Any information would be appriciated. BTW, the controller seems to be a
slightly-stylaziied version of an origional NES controller, with buttons
labeled II and I, in the place of A and B, a select and Run button (Run in
the place of Start) and a standard digital-arrow pad, as found on most
gaming systems.
Thanks,
Tim D. Hotze
This stuff is apparently going to get hauled away by the Garbage
Gorillas on Wednesday of this week, so move quick and reply directly to
the sender (john(a)egh.com, or call at (781-861-0670) if you want the
stuff...
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From: jasantos(a)ultranet.com (John A Santos)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11
Subject: Free Unibus hardware (act fast...)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:14:36 -0400
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My company is cleaning the basement, and there is a large collection
of PDP-11 (mostly, some useful on VAXes) stuff that is going to be
carted away on Wednesday (4/8) by the junk man.
If anyone near Lexington Mass wants to grab any of it (or if you are
willing to pay shipping, for the smaller items), please email me
or call me at work. Unfortunately I just found out about it today,
and it is going tomorrow, so there isn't much time to rescue this
stuff from oblivion.
Items include:
Unibus backplanes (4 & 9 slot, a couple of each)
4 or 5 Unibus cables, varying lengths (at least one is brand new.)
Lots of Unibus jumpers (M920 and some of the long ones (M9200?))
Thousands (well, dozens) of Grant jumpers (G727?)
2 DELUA's + cab kits
2 UDA-50's + cab kits (I think one has one bad board, the other works)
1 DH11 (and maybe some spare parts)
4 DZ11's (with CAB kits)
2 KMD11's (X.25 interface with a KMC11B and a line and modem board)
1 or two DV11's (synch multiplexor)
1 TMB-11 (TU10/TE10 controller)
1 RH11 (Unibus to massbus interface, has a stuck bit)
1 LP11 interface
several DL11 boards, various vintages
2 Able (?) boards that each emulate 4 DL11's.
2 BA11 10 1/2 inch expansion boxes, one in pieces.
2 TE16 and one TE10 9-track tape drives, mostly disassembled
2 TM03 (maybe one is a TM02) Massbus tape formatters.
Lots of H945? power regulators (I think they take 18V AC and output
either +-5V DC or +-15V DC, depending on model) Anyway, these are
the boxes about 4x6x8 inches that sit inside BA11's and PDP 11/40-
vintage CPU cabs.
There are also some print sets and manuals for some of this stuff.
There might be a few Massbus cables, too.
There might also be an old PDP-11/40 CPU board set.
If you want any of this stuff, either email me (at work is better; I'll
see it sooner) john(a)egh.com, or call me (781-861-0670).
I can't guarantee that any particular items on this list won't be grabbed
back by the powers that be, or that any particular item works, but hey!
Many of the bits were working when last used, in October.
This list is all from memory, so I could be wrong about quantities.
It is mostly sitting in a big pile waiting for the trash-man, who rumor
has will be coming on Wednesday, so this is both your first and last
chance.
If you want some particular item, but can't arrange shipping or to drop
by, let me know and if it isn't too big, I can probably rescue it and
save it for you.
John Santos
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