> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> The RA81 is _heavy_. If it's anything like the R80, then the official DEC
> procedure is to take out the HDA when mounting the drive, to make it
> light enough to handle.
Yes the manual says that for the RA81 as well. It also says that it weighs
148 lbs!
> Getting
> it onto the rails with 2 people holding it is next to impossible.
>
Done that after fetching the drive from the car in a wheelbarrow ;-). The
trick is to extend the rails (after extending the stabilising foot first)
and then lift from below so that your arms don't get tangled with the
rails. Once the drive is sitting on the rails squarely it is _fairly_
stable and can be juggled about to line up the screw holes.
As a point of interest the book says that the drive takes 18 amps for the
first four seconds whilst it is spinning up.
Regards
Pete
> Refering to the recent (and current) talks on the nintendo:
> Is it appropriate to talk about video consoles on this list? (they don't
> quite fit my definition of "computer")
> If so I need help with a Fairchild chanel F: Schenatics and any info on the
> hardware.
I should probably pop in and post my biannual pointer to the classic
videogames list. Subscription address:
classic-videogames-request(a)moose.webworks.ca
--
Ben Coakley http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu
Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH
Wow, this is global. -Mtn Goats
Attending several requests, I'm pleased to announce that today I've posted
a new section in the Vintage Calculators section of the X-Number World with
the archival pages of the Vintage Calculators Forum.
The archival pages can be accessed in the following address:
http://www.dotpoint.com/xnumber
Section: VINTAGE CALCULATORS --> ARCHIVALS
As you will see, you won't be able to post answers to the archived
messages, but you will be able to send e-mail messages to the message
owners.
Regards,
James Redin
X-Number World of Calculators
No, I'm not, it was for a friend, who's really into video games...
Thanks anyway,
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Dies Irrae <DiesIrrae(a)aol.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: How Do You Program Nintendo Games?
>If you are looking into a future of programming video games then check out
>www.digipen.com (I think that is it). I visited them once and was very
>impressed.
>
>-Enrique!
Well actually I never got into the Octal ting :) It's just that I had to
with this trainer.
>Some 8080 people/machines (I've not seen it done on many other
>processors) write 16 bit numbers as 2 8-bit bytes in octal. They'd write
>the above number as 151 257 and not 064657. That's what I'd assumed you
>were doing here.
Francois
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Does anyone have the Service Pack 1 for OS/2 2.0, or know of an
archive for it? IBM has nothing about it on their site.
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A few weeks ago, I was charged with fixing a new Macintosh 5400/180.
It had been in a music room, in a sound proof booth, for several
months, with a MIDI interface being used for music software and the
like. The problem was something with the hard drive. This is the
second hard drive failure I've seen since an AT&T 6300. When the
drive tries to seek, it sound like a pendulum is stopping (tick...
tock,tock,tock,SILENCE). The head never sounds like it moves. The
little LED on the drive flashes, though. This is an IDE, by the way.
So, here's the good part. We sent in for a replacement, and in a few
days, it's the same way.
Now, I'm thinking it's a problem with the sound box's power supply,
maybe those 2GW speakers in there. Any ideas before we fry another
8GB?
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I can imagine DEC utility of the week - Ampmaker -"Overcome the
20 Amp limit - optimize your bootup sequence - eliminate those
annoying explosions..."
>
>[RA81 takes 18 amps to spin up]
>
>This is why I turn the RA on, spin it up, and THEN turn on the BA
boxes.
>Otherwise I trip the power controller breaker.
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Kai/others:
The 4mm tape with the scans was forwarded to Bill Whitson several months
ago (12/7/97) so that he could post them. I have heard neither hide nor hair
>from him
since I got his real home address.
If I had a personal web site with 100mb++ of storage, I'd post them to
myself and pass out the URL. Alas, I don't...
If someone lives near Bill Whitson, knock on his door and tell him to
post the scans!
Rich Cini/WUGNET
<nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> (remove nospam_ to use)
ClubWin! Charter Member (6)
MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:15:43 -0700
From: Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com>
To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
Subject: Altair scans update?
Message-ID:
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I check on this subject every 6 months whether I need to or not. What
happened to this invaluable resource? Has it ever been posted anywhere?
thanks
Kai
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kai Kaltenbach
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 10:56 AM
> To: 'classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu'
> Subject: RE: Altair scans update
>
> Whatever happened to these?
>
> thanks
>
> Kai
>
> ----------
> From: Richard A. Cini, Jr.[SMTP:rcini@classic.msn.com]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 5:31 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Altair scans update
>
> For those who have asked...
>
> The Altair scans are ready to post, I just have to ZIP them up and
> send the
> tape to Bill Whitson. Does anyone have his physical address??
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Rich Cini/WUGNET
> <rcini(a)msn.com>
> - ClubWin Charter Member (6)
> - MCP Windows 95/Netowrking
>
Refering to the recent (and current) talks on the nintendo:
Is it appropriate to talk about video consoles on this list? (they don't
quite fit my definition of "computer")
If so I need help with a Fairchild chanel F: Schenatics and any info on the
hardware.
Otherwyse forget my post.
Thank you.
Francois
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hotze <photze(a)batelco.com.bh>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 1:10 AM
Subject: How Do You Program Nintendo Games?
>Well? How DO you program Nintendo games. Do you need to compile? Or is
it
>more like BASIC? Is it done in any specific language?
> Just asking...
>
>Tim D. Hotze
>
Geez, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you guys...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Van Burnham [SMTP:van@wired.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 12:26 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: RE: Warez?? Was: Re: James Willings still up?
>
> AAAAAAAAH. Wrongo. Try again.
>
>
> Or was that a little joke??
>
> van
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Christian Fandt [SMTP:cfandt@servtech.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 9:10 AM
> >> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> >> Subject: Warez?? Was: Re: James Willings still up?
> >>
> >> Forgive me for not knowing what _might_ be common knowledge amongst
> some
> >> folks here, but what is this "warez" thing??
> >>
> >Warez (pronounced "war-ehs" is an infamous village in southern Mexico
> that
> >was once a training camp for CIA counter-insurgency computer terrorism
> >recruits. Furnished with the highest end computer hacking equipment by
> the
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> the
> >program was discontinued during the Iran-Contra scandal. After their
> >payroll was cut, the village, ironically, hired itself out to
> international
> >terrorist concerns to perform paid attacks on US commerce. This
> situation
> >was exacerbated by an abortive attempt to invade Warez by Puerto Rican
> >commandos under the direction of the US military in 1997. This has since
> >been known as the "Bay of Warez" disaster.
> >
> >Kai
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Fandt [SMTP:cfandt@servtech.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 9:10 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Warez?? Was: Re: James Willings still up?
>
> Forgive me for not knowing what _might_ be common knowledge amongst some
> folks here, but what is this "warez" thing??
>
Warez (pronounced "war-ehs" is an infamous village in southern Mexico that
was once a training camp for CIA counter-insurgency computer terrorism
recruits. Furnished with the highest end computer hacking equipment by the
US Government, under the direction of Oliver North, they went rogue when the
program was discontinued during the Iran-Contra scandal. After their
payroll was cut, the village, ironically, hired itself out to international
terrorist concerns to perform paid attacks on US commerce. This situation
was exacerbated by an abortive attempt to invade Warez by Puerto Rican
commandos under the direction of the US military in 1997. This has since
been known as the "Bay of Warez" disaster.
Kai
I just picked up a Sharp PC 7000. it's one of those lunch box sized
portables with a LCD screen on one side and a fold up keyboard. This thing
has a built-in real time clock. Does anyone have the software to read the
clock and load the time into DOS?
Joe
>EMP - ElectroMagnetic Pulses. This is the electrical wave that is the
result
>of a nuclear detonation. Vacuum tubes aren't the only way to "harden" a
>curcuit against this. The usual and practical way to protect against this
is
>to armor the electronics and all connecting cables. I worked with the Short
>range Attack Missile (SRAM), Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM), Sea
>Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM) and Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM) for many
>years. I'm all too familiar with using a megohm meter to check resistance
>between the body and covers of equipment made to protect against EMP.
Vacuum
>tubes are good at a distance.
Anyone seen Goldeneye? ;-) So that part about the MiG's crashing and that
helicopter not... fake?
>> I wouldn't care to run a business with a Russian built computer though...
>
>I'm starting to wonder about Taiwan made as well....
Just as Max can vouch for the USSR, I can/cannot for Taiwan. They've got
good heads on their shoulders, but they think that it's American not to use
them. That will be their downfall.
Tim D. Hotze
Tim D. Hotze said:
>Well? How DO you program Nintendo games. Do you need to compile?
>Or is it more like BASIC? Is it done in any specific language?
> Just asking...
The NES (unless I still half asleep) executes 6502 code. The Super NES
is 65816. I think the GameBoy is Z80 (I've never programmed on it).
And the N64 uses a 4000 series MIPS processor (4300 or 4400 I'm not
sure)(I've never programmed it either).
You could write code in 'C' if you have a cross compiler. On the N64, I'll bet
that most of the programming is done in 'C' (maybe 99%) because there you are
using Libraries that handle all of the low level stuff.
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Well? How DO you program Nintendo games. Do you need to compile? Or is it
more like BASIC? Is it done in any specific language?
Just asking...
Tim D. Hotze
If you are looking into a future of programming video games then check out
www.digipen.com (I think that is it). I visited them once and was very
impressed.
-Enrique!
<Check out this entry I found on the web for a PAPERBACK book:
<
<-----------
<Programming the 6502 Computer by Zaks, Rodney Sybex, Berkely, CA 1978
<pbk near fine/ 305 p.8.5x5.3x.8 ISBN 0895880091 shelf wear otw clean
<tight bright no defects (Keywords: rodney zaks programming 6502 micro
<computer manual) The price of the book is US$ 153.00
<
<The seller is Bennie R Warden - Bookseller
<39 S Alhambra , Port St Lucie, FL, U.S.A., 34952-2832.
<benwarden(a)earthlink.net. Ph: 561 878-9645. Terms of sale: Ten day
<Reserve by E-Mail or Telephone. Sorry, No Credit Cards at this
<-----------
I have that one and the follow on applications books. That means my set
is worth more. The guy is smoking something. Mine still have the labels
>from when I bought them new and they look new none were over 13$.
Allison
I just got my hands on a console refrence for the above, and it had a 5.25"
disk in the back. It's labeled "WAFI". (APparently the machine name).
How can I see what's on it?
I did a "MOUNT/FOREIGN DK0: B:" from PUTR, and it doesn't recognise the format...
-------
If you are interested I can manage to have the schematics and silkscreen
scanned, but I'll wait till you ask ;)
>I now have to work out which socket is which. Shouldn't take long - I
>recognise all the chips, have data one them, and it's quite simple. Don't
>spoil it for me by posting the answer just yet ;-)
Francois
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My most recent discard find is a Wang PC-S3-2 . It had had 2 winchester
disks removed before being thrown out, but otherwise seems intact. No
KB , monitor , or FDD's of course. From what I've been able to find on the
net ( Wang CUG) it's an early "Classic PC" but this predates their oldest
listed model specs. There seems to be many more sites on the CPM models
but not on Wang PC's.
The full-size motherboard has Z-80 and 8086 chips and 2 20 pinM ribbon
connecters below two cutouts leading to the HD enclosure ,a centronics
parallell printer, 25 pin serial, and KB ports on the rear. It has 5 half-size
expansion slots .all occupied. One card is labelled PM 101 IBM Mono emulation
and has 2 rear sockets. One is a regular 5pin kb socket and the other an 8pin
din which I imagine is the monitor port. Strangely enough the same din as my
Epson KB. This board is coupled with another by a 10 line ribbon cable. On
either side of these are 2 cards that look identical the bottom-most labelled
PM 021 / 022B Winchester Controller. Both have 20 pin and 10 pin male
ribbon connectors. The top-most card looks like a memory card and has a LED.
It's somewhat sparsely populated with mcm 6665 (motorola mem ?) and low-powered
schotsky chips but traces for many more sockets.
Seems pretty straight forward if it wasn't for the extra 20 pin connectors on
the HD controller cards. Fdd connectors ? My lack of technical knowledge is
showing. Maybe because of the company I'm keeping on this techno-whiz m-list.
It's intimidating. :^)
I believe Wang had it's own proprietory system and I did d-l a set-up from the
Wang CUG site but info on this beast seems scarce, tho IIRC they were widely
used in business operations. Anyone ??
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
