On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 yowza(a)yowza.com wrote:
> How similar is Star Office to Microsoft Office, BTW?
Nowadays, with the advent of the GUI, look and feel lawsuits are
meaningless. Everything looks the same anyway.
>
> -- Doug
>
>
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Max Eskin | kurtkilgor(a)bigfoot.com | AOL: kurtkilgor
> From: Doug Spence <ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca>
> Subject: Re: Replacing 6550s
> (I especially find it cool that they list various part numbers for the
> connector. :) )
Digikey is the best source for inexpensive PET compatible connectors.
(1-800-DIGI-KEY) along with a ton of other cool parts.
>
> I just noticed for the first time (!) that the "PARALLEL USER PORT" has
> pins labeled "T.V. Video", "T.V. Vertical", and "T.V. Horizontal"! Has
> anyone actually connectd a TV or external monitor to a PET?
There are plans for a composite video converter using those pins in Nick
Hampshire's PET Revealed, I think it only works on the older 9" screen pets
and not the 12" ones. The reason for it being on the user port was for deaier
diagnostic testing.
I'll scan the circuit and put it on-line tonite:
http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/petvideo.gif
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to find out what PET has a chiclet keyboard. I only know of the
> > plastic bang-on-em keyboard PETs, not one with the rubber keys.
>
> There aren't any with rubber keys as far as I'm aware.
The 'rubber part of the keys is on the boom of the key, which you don't see.
The only Commodore computer with rubber keys that I have heard of is the
Commodore 116.
>
> "chiclet keyboard" != "rubber keys", IMHO. I'm talking about the cute
> multicoloured keyboard with the small plastic keys that are arranged in a
> grid pattern. I call that a chiclet keyboard.
The original PET 2001 (4k or 8k), and I saw a 'Teacher's PET' with such a
keyboard too (proably had a newer motherboard though. In general they
(calculator keyboard model PETs) were sold till about 1980 and are the
origninal keyboard design.
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> ::"chiclet keyboard" != "rubber keys", IMHO. I'm talking about the cute
> ::multicoloured keyboard with the small plastic keys that are arranged in a
> ::grid pattern. I call that a chiclet keyboard.
>
> Hmm, okay. But multicoloured? Which colours? Arranged how?
Ummm they were all metallic tops, Red, Gold, Blue, Silver... Check out my
PET page:
http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/pet.html
You can see the colors pretty well on the first image.
If you want exact placement I'll scan a keyboard layout from the PET user
guide tonite:
http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/petkeys.gif
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> From: Cameron Kaiser <ckaiser(a)oa.ptloma.edu>
> Subject: Re: Commodore 128 stuff (was:St. Vincent DePaul Finds)
>
> ::It's a fast-loader for the 128 (that's where the Mach comes in , the 64
> ::version was called Mach 5) It might also be a program freezer/utility. Put it
> ::in your 128 and push the reset button, some of these will present a menu (for
> ::save options and such). The switch is probably to select whether the cart is
> ::active or not. Best not to switch it while the computer is on.
>
> Gosh, Larry, don't you want to live dangerously? Switching EXROM and GAME
> in realtime? Live a little! ;-)
After a few Commodore (PET, 64, 128D and Amiga 1000) mishaps between me, my
brother and a couple friends, I have become much more careful. I do not want
to be the holder of the 'golden butterknife' (yeah, that one went over your
head, it's a long story.)
Hi all!
Thanks to everyone who supplied information regarding the differences
between the 6550 and 2114 (especially Ethan who supplied pinouts).
I'm wondering if it would be possible to replace the RAM in an old PET
with a modern SRAM by use of some kind of plug-in adapter.
An example of what I'm thinking of is the SIMMfonie or AmiFast Zip-to-SIMM
adapters for the Amiga 3000. Could something like this be built that
would plug into the 16 22-pin sockets on the PET motherboard, and lead to
a single modern SRAM? Possibly with the addition of a couple of clip-on
leads to get two more address lines to the RAM adapter so that the PET
could have 32K.
My general preference is to keep things original, but functional is always
better than non-functional and something like this adapter would be
removable if I ever found the proper chips.
The life of a chicklet-keyboard PET may depend on this. :)
--
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
Greetz all,
I'm buying an old 486 and want to try some of the FREE alternative OS' (no
Microsoft stuff thank you) that are available for it. Operating systems such
as GEM, QNX, OS/2 and GEOS. Can anyone recommend any other that can be run,
such as embedded or old operating systems?
--
Gareth Knight
Amiga Interactive Guide | ICQ No. 24185856
http://welcome.to/aig | "Shine on your star"
This is about 26 days off-topic.
I have an old HP Vectra RS/25-c 386-25/1MB RAM, 100MB HD, 1.2 MB floppy.
(BIOS dated 1989). I"m trying to get it set up as a home server, but I
first need a few things:
-Setup software.
-Networking software compatible with the internal networking card (there"s a
plug next to the keyboard connector that looks like it wants to be connected
to some sort of network hub).
-An old Vectra keyboard? Can't get the numeric keypad to work on the
keyboard I have.
-Networking hardware (mainly a hub and network cards)
I have a copy of DR-DOS 7.x with networking extensions. Will this work with
the Vectra (haven"t installed it yet)? For one thing, I don"t even know if
there"s something in setup that enables/disables the network card. I"d like
to use the built-in card, since most of the networked computers will be
8086"s -286"s, and speed isn"t an issue.
ThAnX,
--
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
< which I've not seen on 1's. If the indicator has turned, it's a good be
< the pack has problems, but not always. Anyone know how hard it is to
< re-balance a pack?
The shock indicator was purchasable before it became standard.
It's not a matter of balance, were talking warped. If dropped at various
angles the 14" platter can become seriously nonplanar and kill the heads.
Allison
HP has very good support web pages. Vectras appear to be at
http://www.support.vectra.hp.com:8001/
They don't seem to have a lot of stuff prior to the 486 era, but there are some
references to 386s.
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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On Dec 1998 13:05:24 -0600, Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>Ok here's one for all those of you familiar with the older IBM iron. I
>>have just fallen into a unit that looks much like a TRS-80 model 3 or 4
{snip}
That's the somewhat famous Datamaster. I have one, and I have some
diskettes, but I have a bad ROM, so it doesn't boot.
The Datamaster is a desktop office machine. From what I understand, it did
word processing and accounting functions. It has a built-in BASIC
interpreter, so you can do some programming. It's based on the 8085 (Intel
house numbered). I can't seem to find the correspondence that I had with the
guy I got mine from, but his wife worked on the development team. The 23 was
the immediate predecessor to the PC.
[ Rich Cini/WUGNET
[ ClubWin!/CW7
[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
[ Collector of "classic" computers
[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Huw Davies <H.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, 3 December 1998 14:54
Subject: Re: VAX collectors attention
>Excuse me, I've still got one in production and a couple of spares in my
>"spares" room....
I think you should open your spares room to the public and charge admission.
:^)
>>Allison or one of the other Master Decologists will doubtless correct any
>>mistakes in the above. :^)
>
>Well I'm not Allison :-)
No, but it's a safe bet you fit the "or one of the other" etc. option. :^)
cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Marks College
Port Pirie South Australia.
My ICQ# is 1970476
Ph. 61-411-623-978 (Mobile)
61-8-8633-0619 (Home)
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