> Hi,
> I have one of the old IBM Edsels and I am currently trying to get the
> TMC850jr SCSI card I have to get a CDROM to work on it. Can anyone give me
> any
> clues as to how to do this? Can it be done at all?
>
> I also have the combo cartridge V3.0 in this machine and upgraded the
> harddrive from DOS 5.0 to DOS 6.22 and now I keep getting write errors when
> I
> try to install programs onto the harddrive. Any help here?
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
> John Amirault
CLASSICCMP folk and Dan B.,
I found this on Usenet. Any takers? You'd need LOTS of room and
(probably) lots of power, but this could be a neat addition to any
collection. Read on...
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From: "Kent Rankin" <kentrankin(a)theatreorgans.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: What is a VAX 8350 fully loaded worth?
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A friend of mine has a VAX 8350 that he picked up recently. It's
quite
a large setup, to say the least. I was wondering if someone could tell me
what I should get(at least) for it for him, and what I could get for it.
Here's what it has:
VAX 8350 with 2 processors
SA482 Storage array loaded with 3 RA82(6.22MB) drives
A giant 200amp power conditioner that looks just like the VAX
A TU81-Plus Tape drive
Two DMB32-M things. I think that they are multiplexors
Anyone know about them?
Two LA120 printers. One DA model, and one AA model.
A LA75 printer
A VT420 terminal(JA model)
Five DECServer200/DL Terminal Servers. Anyone know what
the DL stands for?
I think that is all that is included, but I could be wrong. I'm
notreally sure as to what cards are in it(besides the TU81 Plus'
interface).
The box has absolutely TONS of packages from DEC on it with the
licenses. The manuals are all there, and many of them have extras that
are
shrinkrapped. Many spare parts for the machine are new, and in DEC boxes,
still wrapped. There are boxes and boxes of new manuals, to give you an
idea.
The machine was on maintenance until September of 1998. Plus, as an
added bonus, it has the whole Y2k support package.
I do know that all of the packages are very recent versions, and that
OpenVMS 7.0 is loaded on it.
It was used(until upgraded) with MANY terminals running off of it for
basic business uses, and for calculating the lights(andtheir positions)
needed in a stadium, and is in perfect condition.
Anyhow, anyone have any ideas on the pricing? Perhaps a good outlet
for
me to sell it?
Thanks in advance,
Kent Rankin
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Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho,
Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com
Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com
"...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object,
event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."
< Question, isn't Minix on the x86 platform still a commercial product?
< know the versions for stuff such as the Atari I believe are now free, bu
< thought you still had to buy the x86 version.
Not really. It's a copyrighted, freely available for non commercial use
if memory serves. You can get it sources and all off the net or by buying
the book on OS Design and Implmentation with it's CDrom. The details are
educational/personal use I think. I doubt it would be popular for
commercial use except as maybe an embedded kernal.
It's supposed to work on PS2/50z but when I tried it there was a floppy
problem that kept getting in the way. I put it aside when a 386sx/16 came
my way as it was a excellent MINIX platform.
Allison
< > The whole of it is Malcom Wright's _Alphanumeric music with Amplitude
< > control_ C1975 article. I have a copy of this and have done mucic wit
<
< Where was this published?
Peoples Computer Company, PCC was Doctor Dobbs and the articles were there
and then published as a seperate thing.
Allison
At 08:36 AM 12/8/98 -0600, you wrote:
>the basement. The article compendiums that are offered for Byte,
>DDJ, etc. are interesting, but so are the ads, and they aren't included.
The NatGeo CD's that are out (around $150) have the ads as well, I
understand. I suspect someone will do the same with some of the better
known computer mags as well at some point.
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roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
At 10:31 AM 12/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Take a 3.5 volt top hat LED. Spread the leads to the proper
>width and apply (I would recommend using a pair of pliers)
>to a fresh 9 volt transistor radio battery. I got shards of
>red plastic embedded in my fingers that way once.
Sounds like fun, but PLEASE -- WEAR SAFETY GLASSES! I can say from
experience that glass (or plastic) in your eye is no fun at all. (nor is
fuzzy eyesight/blindness.)
WEAR SAFETY GLASSES!
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
> From: Doug Spence <ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca>
> Subject: Re: PET Video (was: Replacing 6550s) & 128
> > > ::"chiclet keyboard" != "rubber keys", IMHO. I'm talking about the cute
> > > ::multicoloured keyboard with the small plastic keys that are arranged in a
> > > ::grid pattern. I call that a chiclet keyboard.
> > >
> > > Hmm, okay. But multicoloured? Which colours? Arranged how?
> >
> > Ummm they were all metallic tops, Red, Gold, Blue, Silver... Check out my
> > PET page:
>
> Gold? Your PETs have gold keys? I have two shades of blue. And my red
> keys look significantly less metallic than the others. I couldn't tell if
> they were 'metallic' or if I was looking at the nail polish my brother
> coated the keys with to keep the printing from rubbing off.
Maybe I'm mistaken about the gold ones, (that PET is currently back in
storage)... Fortunately I was given a spare set of by a friend who serviced
PETs and also once worked at Commodore (he also wrote the original PET uers
guide and some of the diagnostics, I had him sign my users guide) but so far
the original set on the PET haven worn all that much yet (the previous owner
was very good to that machine).
0001010010110101010101000101000111000110010010
> From: Doug Spence <ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca>
> Subject: Re: Replacing 6550s
>
> > > Actually, IIRC my small-keyboard PET uses little rubber cups. But I
> > > suppose there may be springs as well. The keyboard didn't work when I got
> > > it, so I had to disassemble it and wipe the circuit board clean. I never
> > > disassembled it beyond pulling the circuit board off.
> >
> > No rubber cups. Rubber cups or domes always in my experience give some
> > sort of mechanical hysteresis when you press them. All PET keyboards I've
> > used are smooth until they hit the stop. Small keyboard had little black
> > rubber pads set into the plastic mouldings of the keys.
>
> I think there are rubber cups of some sort, but they may be soft
> protective things rather than what provides the 'bounce'. I just tried
> both PET keyboards and compared the feel to other keyboards, and you're
> right, they are smooth. Potential 'rubber cup' keyboards: CoCo 1, Amiga
> 3000. Weird undefinable keyboard that mushes/springs at the bottom: Atari
> 130XE. :)
The Calculator PET cups (which my keyboard has) are not all that deep, so you
would not feel the 'mechanical hysteresis' you were describing, they act as
the 'spring' I am sure. The large keyboard PETs used springs but later some
VIC-20s had cups again... strange... :/
> Where would you put ROM expansion? There's no empty sockets in this model
> PET.
With the ExpandaPET board you have I think 4 KIM bus slots, I have a couple
cards for one, one is an EPROM board and the othersome sort of floppy
controller (they probabably worked together)
> > > Why do POKE and PEEK fail there? Was that done on purpose or is it just
> > > the result of something lame like using a signed value to represent
> > > addresses?
> >
> > No, it's software. It was a feature that was supposed to prevent
> > inquisitive geeks disassembling the BASIC ROM between $C000 and (I think)
> > $E7FF. The OS ROMs, above $F000, were peekable, though, as was the I/O
> > space in the E block. You could of course peek and poke the screen, $8000
> > - $83E7 inclusive.
>
> An inquisitive geek wouldn't be stopped long by that! Bill should have
> known better. :)
All you had to do was poke in an ML byte transfer routine...
That 'bug' was corrected in the upgrade ROMs (good move on Commodre's part, by
opening access and info on the system more people devloped for it.) as well as
in the realase of the monitor program. Other companies who tried such stingy
tactics (Atari early on and most certainly TI) were really hurt by it.
> > I'll try and dig out my RAM expansion board, and work out what it did.
> > Meanwhile, have fun!
>
> No fun until all my assignments and exams are done. :/
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998 healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Good GRIEF! He has the starting bid is set at $8.50, and wants the winner
> to pay $3 for shipping. You can buy them new for that!
Now I know what to do with all those boxes of 5 1/4" disks I've got...I'm
rich! Seriously, though, if someone here catches what that auction
closes at, let me know.
> Zane
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Max Eskin | kurtkilgor(a)bigfoot.com | AOL: kurtkilgor
< Just to refresh my memory on Linux since I'm just now getting into
< looking at it, just exactly what machines work well with it, and with
< what versions/vareities for each? I have tons of machines from IBM 5170
< AT's, PS/2's of all sorts, other 286 and 386 machines, etc and I'm
< looking at possibly selling off the useful ones that will use Linux as
< cheap as I can to get some room to walk around here.
For the 8086 and 286 class machines look into MINIX V2.0 and for the 386
and up most linux versions (they may not support specific hardware
like some oddball video and disks though).
Allison
Hi,
Ebay item #47353951 is two 8" floppies. If you look closely at
one of them in the picture, it appears to be a diagnostic floppy.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=47353951
I emailed the seller, and he said:
> That floppy has a label that reads: "EMC CORPORATION, MEMORY
> DIAGNOSTICS, FOR VAX 11/780 AND 11/785, 053-240-001 REV A"
>
> Hard to say what might be on the other floppy, it looks like the label
> that had been adhered has popped off long ago.
>
> We've long since decommissioned all our 780s and 785s, and a month or so
> ago we were doing a "cleanup" of the shelves in the back room, and I
> picked up a few "nostalgic" items like these floppies, but my wife has
> said there's no room left for computer collectibles.
>
> If you could actually use the software, that would be great!
I'm not interested in it, but I thought someone here might be.
--
Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com
http://www.allegro.com/sieler.html
