While browsing early-84 Bytes, I came across two references to new Commodore
computers. One was the Z8000-based "Next Generation", which was to run
Concurent Unix. The other was a Series 264 machine.
Any info on these?
[ Rich Cini/WUGNET
[ ClubWin!/CW7
[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
[ Collector of "classic" computers
[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/
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Could any owners of the Intelligent Systems Corp. Compucolor plese raise
your collective hands. I'm trying to find more information about this
machine.
Thanks
A
On Sat, 19 Dec 1998 ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote:
> Hmmm... From what I've seen of the Mindstorms set available in the UK,
> it's not that great. What really annoys me is that it'll do a lot more
> than they tell you about in the instructions (based on the stuff I've
> read on the web). And I _HATE_ products like that.
>
> And don't tell me 'Oh, it's aimed at children who couldn't understand
> things like that'. I would guess it's aimed at 10-12year olds at least.
> At that age, I was designing with TTL, and starting to look at
> microprocessors, and I didn't have an introductory book to help me.
Wait...but doesn't that sort of defeat your own point? Why should these
kids stick to the instructions? They have heads on their shoulders, they
can experiment on their own.
> But worse still is the fact that back in the early years of this century,
> it appears that boys - say about 12-15 years old - were expected to try
> woodwork, metalwork, using a lathe, wiring electric lights, bells,
> telephones, etc, making induction coils, etc, etc, etc. Things that I bet
> few boys ever try today. And yet, today, it could be made a little easier
> for them.
There's little need to make coils these days, and wiring electric lights
isn't very fun when one can play around with things millions of times more
complex.
> There is the secondary issue with the Mindstorms kit that I don't like
> things that are tied to PCs, but that's another matter.
Indeed. Since when do I need to upgrade my computer to use LEGOs? (I would
have to -- the PC software has rather hefty system requirements)
> think) are 2 'toys' that I've kept, and I don't mind admitting I still
> use them...
I've seen many very useful machines made from metal erector sets.
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I have an ISC 8051 dated 2/78 but no paper. I have seen ads for it in
early Byte issues but that is about all I know at present.
Marty
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Subject: Intelligent Systems Compucolor
Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date: 12/21/98 3:42 AM
Could any owners of the Intelligent Systems Corp. Compucolor plese raise
your collective hands. I'm trying to find more information about this
machine.
Thanks
A
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In a message dated 12/21/98 7:57:49 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
jolminkh(a)nsw.bigpond.net.au writes:
> WebCrawler !!! Is that the original browser that came with OS/2 Warp?
> You still use it?
no, os2 used web explorer and i like it. seems faster than netscape and IE. of
course, previous versions didnt support frames either. grrr. os2 had
explorer and start before ms copied those ideas too...
I saw a Tektronix T4002 "Graphic Computer Terminal" at a junk auction place
near here.
Had a big weird looking joystick and what was labelled a "Teletype Port
Interface" for a DG Nova or Supernova computer. Also a hard copy unit nearly
as big again.
I don't know if it was sold. If it is still homeless next time I see it, how
important would it be to save it? It's a lot bigger than most of the stuff I
pick up so please tell me there's lots of them left.
Hans
>it on the web anywhere (using WebCrawler). Does anyone have a copy that
.
.
WebCrawler !!! Is that the original browser that came with OS/2 Warp?
You still use it?
I just got this curious item from somebody. It's labelled LORAN C
NAVIGATOR on the back. I haven't powered it up yet, but I guess this is
something similar to GPS (only LORAN is on the ground, isn't it?). It
looks pretty old, and certainly has digital electronics in it. Could
someone tell me what to do with this thing? Would it be useful in a car or
an airplane? (I have neither)
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Found on Usenet. Much of the stuff is useful on 'classic' systems, so
I think it's on topic. Please contact the originator directly if you're
interested.
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From: "Dave Masters" <dmasters-w(a)prodigy.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Free PS/2 Stuff
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:38:09 -0600
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I've been trying to clean out the basement for the last year without much
success. I've been given orders from the supreme commander to get this
stuff
out of here. I hate to just toss working computer equipment, so I am
offering PS/2 stuff for whatever it cost me to box it up and ship it out.
All equipment was working the last I used it, but is offered as is.
If you are interested in any of it, please contact me directly at
dmasters(a)prodigy.net. Trash day is Tuesday, but I'll hold the larger stuff
until the Tuesday after Christmas. If you're interested, please contact me
before then.
1 - 3118 B&W scanner with sheetfeed and high speed scanner adapter
1 - 3119 B&W flatbed scanner and 3119 scanner adapter
1 - 8580-111, 386-20 MHz
5 - 8555 386-16 MHz with IDE adapter and hard drives
5 - 2.88 diskette drives, FRU 64F4148
1 - 5 1/4 external diskette drive, Model 4869-002
1 - 30MB hard drive from a Mdl 30-286, FRU 6128279
1 - 160MB hard drive, FRU 56F8895
2 - 60MB hard drive, FRU 6128282
5 - 80MB SCSI hard drive, FRU 56F8854
4 - 160MB SCSI hard drive, FRU 56F8851
1 - 160MB SCSI hard drive, FRU 95F4718
1 - 30MB hard drive out of a Model 25 or 30, Mdl WDI-325Q
1 - IBM tape drive out of a Model 80, P/N 30F5167
> 10 - 3Com Etherlink/MC TP Ethernet adapters
1 - PCMCIA VoiceType Dictation adapter and software
1 - VisualAge C++ for OS/2 Documentation set
1 - OS/2 Warp Connect V3 (sealed)
1 - OS/2 V2.1 (sealed)
1 - Personal Communications AS/400 and 3270 (sealed)
1 - VisualAge for Smalltalk V3 documentation set (sealed)
1 - IBM Distributed Database Connection Services Single-User (sealed)
1 - IBM VisualAge for Java, Enterprise edition, V1 (sealed)
1 - IBM VisualAge for Java, Professional edition, V1 (sealed)
1 - Novell V3.11, 250 user license, diskettes and documentation
Regards,
Dave Masters
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In a message dated 12/20/98 3:12:19 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
jpero(a)pop.cgocable.net writes:
> Spec on this pls.
>
> Can't find this info on 'net even at IBM's.
>
> Thanks!
>
according to my pc pocket ref guide, this is a 44 meg ESDI drive for ps2 mod
60/80
