On Dec 25, 14:16, Sergey Svishchev wrote:
> Subject: Re: SCSI floppies
> On Thu, Dec 24, 1998 at 07:44:19PM -0800, Zane H. Healy wrote:
>
> > >Hi! I've got a question: has anyone ever heard of a SCSI floppy
drive? I
> > >was talking to someone about one, and he said he'd never even heard of
one,
> > >and when I thought about it, I hadn't either.
> >
> > Yes. I'm thinking that the NeXT slabs used 2.88Mb SCSI floppies,
but...
>
> DEC RX23 and RX26 (1.44MB and 2.88MB respectively) are SCSI floppy
drives.
SGI used SCSI floppies too. The SGI ones are TEAC FD235 units with a motor
eject, and a small daughterboard fitted to the bottom. SGI also used
INSITE 3.5" flopticals which can be used as SCSI floppies. And Eltec (in
Germany?) made SCSI add-on boards so that standard floppies could be put on
a SCSI bus.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
In a message dated 12/24/98 10:42:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, marvin(a)rain.org
writes:
>
> I found an amusing listing tonight on ebay for a Kaypro 2 listed at $1000.
>
With that kind of asking / starting price I bet he gets no bids.
Paxton
In a message dated 12/24/98 2:00:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
allisonp(a)world.std.com writes:
> If I want to lift parts and keep the board I have a tin container filled
> with about a 1/2 inch of solder (used for wave soldering). heated over a
> gas stove (coleman) I can float a board and pick off components with
> tweezers. takes a little care to keep the heat reasonable.
>
A cast Iron frying pan works well to float a pool of solder in. There are even
square frying pans.
I have had some success with the new generation of propane micro torches when
I need to straighten leads before pulling.
Once, I got from Intel a couple of solder pots that pumped molten solder up
against a circuit board and then drained off to the sides. It was designed to
work on large circuit cards by flowing solder against a 4" section at a time.
I also had a couple of bench machines that use hot air for component removal,
usually surface mount stuff
It pays to use a good commercial heat gun for component removal. They have
better temperature regulation. Hot Air Guns made for component removal are
expensive but you can get tips for almost all of the chip packages. With a
little bit of creative metal bending you can make your own tips for a std
commercial heat gun.
Paxton
> From: Phil Clayton <handyman(a)sprintmail.com>
> Subject: Commodore Pet 2001
>
> I have been searching the internet for 6 months now for a
> Commodore Pet ..
> Well I finally got an original Commodore Pet 2001 8MB RAM
> Purchased this fine computer from an individual for $230.00
> knowing that it did not work.
That's pretty good, some have been searching alot longer for one of the originals.
> It is cosmetically in Very Fine Condition, however the previous
> owner said it was dead and only got a cursor on the screen..
> After I received it, I started looking closely on the main board
> and there it was a video IC chip that had 2 pins not in the socket.
> I reinserted it, and did get a prompt but just for a few moments.
> So decieded to reinserted all the IC's. I powered it up again..
> And there is was 8 MB RAM and the beautiful Commodore
> Basic prompt..
This is VERY common (better add this to my PET FAQ!) the chips tend to loosen
themselves out of thier sockets. and a push-down is a common troubleshooting
procedure. In later computers like the Atari ST and Amiga it was drop the
computer from a hight of a few inches (they didn't want you to open the case).
:/
Now when it powers up if it reads:
*** COMMODORE BASIC ***
you have the original classic (read 'bug-ridden') ROMs.
if it reads:
### COMMODORE BASIC ###
you have the 'upgrade' (mostly bug fixed) ROMs.
> Typed in a small BASIC program and it worked just fine.
> The Chicklet keyboard has several keys that are hard to get to
> work, I must press some of them several times to work..
This is due to deterioration of the cunductive surface on the key-bottoms,
mashing them sometimes scrapes enough crud to get them to work.
> Anyone have any ideas on how to clean them.
Unplug the keyboard cable from the computer (careful on this those old pet
keyboard wires are more brittle then most)
remove the keyboard assembly from the housing and then carefully remove all
the dinky screws from the botton of the keyboard. When you pull apart the
bottom PCB from the keyboard assembly you may have some of the rubber key-cups
still stuck to the PCB, just put them back in thier proper place in the
assembly half.
With a clean pink-pearl erase erase all the 'fingers' on the PCB (not too
hard), wipe off the eraser crumbs then wipe the keyboard with a paper towel
moistened with isopropyl alcohol (you can use rubbing alcohol, but make sure
the water/glycerne content is low, otherwise 100% isopropyl is found in the
paint section. Make sure the pcb is dry and free of dust or lint.
Cleaning the little conductive 'feet' in the cups is another matter, I usually
to a quick (light) wipe with a clean eraser (you will note it picks up some of
the carbon, make sure you 'erase' on some paper to re-clean the eraser as you
go.) Some use scotch tape to lift off any particles (sometimes works, less
descructive). The worst thing I saw was someone who gold-leafed all the feet
(which probably worked for a champ until sometime before I got the machine.)
Reassemble the keyboard (carefully tighten those dinky screws, they strip
easily) and test. If every other (or every third or fourth) key is not
printing, most likely one of the keyboard wires probably broke during the
cleaning, check the wires.
> Have not tested the built in cassette yet..
The earlier units used butchered SANYO cassette players (you can tell if the
unit has white control buttons and a lift-lid. Later units were a clean
commodore design in all-black with eject button.
> I am very excited to add this great machine to my collection.
> In 1978 I Lusted for the first time for a computer, and it was
> this machine. But in 1978 no way could I afford to buy one..
> Phil...
For more information check out my PET FAQ:
http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/petfaq.html
And my Commodore PET tribute Page:
http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/pet.html
nopt to mention the PET related links on my main commodore page (see signature line)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Strickland <jim(a)calico.litterbox.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, 24 December 1998 19:25
Subject: Re: vaugue musings...
>*snip*
>> (I still can't get all this Clinton stuff - You (Americanos)
>> must live on the happiest place of this world, if you have
>> the time to go for this zipper thing ...)
>>
>> Gruss
>> H.
>*snip*
>
>Beautifully said. :)
Most Aussies feel the same way. Not many here care if he
got a head job from some dame at work. Or more than a
head job. It's a personal matter.
This whole thing is a media driven circus.
I think it's backfired on those that thought they had the most to
gain from it, his popularity is very high despite (or in spite - who knows)
of the circus.
The majority of US voteres seem to think he's a good president.
Nothing else really matters.
Aussies and Brits generally assume that pollys are getting a
bit on the side here and there. But no-one really cares anymore.
His biggest mistake was responding to this type of question.
Refusing to even comment on personal matters would
be the sensible approach.
Just my 2c worth.
Merry Christmas All
It's after 7:30pm Xmas Eve, and it's 36C.
Seeya
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
Hey gang! Hope your holidays have been good to you so far whether Chanukah
or Christmas or Ramadan or Kwanzaa or no particular reason.
Well, here's a bit of a lead. Recall several days ago we got the original
msg posted here giving a list of Russian radios for sale? Being one of the
resident old radio nuts on the ClassicCmp list I sent a private email sort
of taking them to task for sending an off topic post to our list. Only Wm.
Donzelli and myself on this list would even be interested in old radios as
we are both members of the AWA. Maybe one or two others here are also
members or simply like old radios --Tony D. is one, otherwise I don't know.
BTW, the jpg attached to the original msg showing a Redstar radio seems to
be the same radio as I had seen at our Annual AWA Conference last
September. IIRC, a fellow from Great Britain bought it at our equipment
auction. Paid a big buck for it too. It had a metal case painted in that
interesting red woodgrain pattern. My Swedish friend commented it was a
direct copy of a French radio design and that the paint often falls off
these things and they rust badly.
Anyway, I got a reply back saying they can get old Russian computers (from
195.90.136.126 (dialup26.kaluga.com) by mx.kaluga.ru). In the back of my
mind I *knew* I might get a reply from them saying they could get old
computers.
So, by golly, here it is below. I figure it is one or more Russian folks
who are trying to make some sort of money. Times are real hard over there
as you already know.
But I'm not too sure about doing any business with them. I would likely
work with an AWA member from Sweden, France or Germany that I personally
know to get Russian radio gear. Hans F. may have some trusted Eastern
connections to get Russian Computer gear.
So, these guys are just spammers in my book as far as I can presently see.
Oh well . . .
Regards, Chris
-- --
>From: "The Old Radios Trade" <oldradios(a)radiolink.net>
>To: "Christian Fandt" <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
>Subject: Re: Old Radios
>Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:43:16 +0300
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5
>
>Dear Friends
>
>What russian old computers are you interested ?
>We can to acquire it here for you!
>
>Thanks for your interest.
>
>The Old Radios Trade.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
>To: The Old Radios Trade <oldradios(a)radiolink.net>
>Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 6:44 AM
>Subject: Re: Old Radios
>
>
>>At 00:08 12/24/98 +0300, you wrote:
>>>Dear Colleagues
>>>
>>>We have for sale multitude of rare russian antiquarian radios.
>>>There are Zvezda 54 (RED STAR) , Belarus 53, SVD9 and many others solid
>>radios.
>>>
>>>We have are the following portable radios:
>>>model, year.
>>
>>Why did you send this to our list? We are interested only in old computers
>>on the ClassicCmp list, not radios. Please don't do it again.
>>-- --
Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
Trantor was bought by Adaptec. The mini-SCSI boxes are well supported, they will usually be auto-detected by Win95/98 and the correct drivers automatically installed. I used to have a T338 (one of the several devices in this series of products), and I probably still have a copy of the driver disks somewhere. E-Mail me if you need them, and I'll look, but they are probably also on the Adaptec web site.
Barry Watzman
Watzman(a)ibm.net
At 10:06 AM 12/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>This is grossly off-topic but I just want to explain to our foreign
>friends why Clinton should not be running our country.
YA!!!! Well said Sam!!!!
I'm working on getting TCP/IP working under RT-11 right now, and I decided
to bring the second partition on the disk online. I'm using a WQESD ESDI
controller and have the disk I'm using for RT-11 partitioned into several
disks.
I pulled out the manual for the disk controller and figured out how to do
set du3: unit=2 part=1
so it would recognize the correct partition. Unfortunatly when I try to
then use the disk I have the following results.
.init du3:
DU3:/Initialize; Are you sure? Y
?DUP-F-Output error DU3:
.
.init/bad du3:
DU3:/Initialize; Are you sure? Y
?DUP-F-Bad block in system area DU3:
.copy sysgen.ans du3:
Files copied:
?PIP-F-Output error DU3:SYSGEN.ANS
.
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
Zane
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>At 10:06 AM 12/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>This is grossly off-topic but I just want to explain to our foreign
>>friends why Clinton should not be running our country.
>
> YA!!!! Well said Sam!!!!
>
I agree but want to add a couple items.
He is supposed to be the "Commander in Chief" of the Armed Forces and there
have been many servicemen and women discharged, stripped of their rank,
retirement pensions, and I think some have even spent time in prison for
similar and less serious things than Clinton has done.
One of the things that the "government" looks for when they do security
checks before you can work in a "classified" area is a full background check
looking for anything that someone could blackmail you with. One of the
biggies is just what Clinton did. If you put it down on the paperwork they
will just verify it but if you don't or are off by a month or 2 boy are you
in for the questions. This could be something recent or 15 years ago.
Dan
