Another thing: I saw a copy of Lotus 123 for the Rainbow 100. Anyone want
that?
In a message dated 98-01-02 19:06:16 EST, you write:
<< Actually I think VisiCalc WAS the early version of Lotus 123. I don't
remember all the names but VisiCalc was originally developed by some guy as
a school project. One of the other students liked it and bought the rights
to it for something like $100 and formed Lotus Developement Corp (I think
that's the right name). It was first marketed as VisiCalc and was
virtually unchanged from the original project software except for being
ported to different systems. Later the name was changed to Lotus 123 and
the product was further developed. Another case of the inventor ending up
sweeping floors and a promoter becoming rich with someone else's idea.
(Tesla >> George Westinghouse) (Henry >> Oliver Winchester) etc etc. >>
Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
> Frank knows his HPs! I know the 200 series pretty well but he's got all
> of them down pat.
I've been doing stuff with HPs for over 20 years now (mostly with
3000s and HP PCs), and some of it stuck. But I've never worked with
Series 200s so don't know that much about them, just what I've picked
up here and there. And I still think I have a lot to learn.
Why do I know about Series 500s? In 1989 I took a job at a little
company called The Wollongong Group, supporting a product for the HP
3000 called WIN/TCP for MPE/V. Little did I know, they also had a
product for the HP 9000 Series 500s called, straightforwardly enough,
WIN/TCP for HP 9000 Series 500. They expected me to support that too
-- after all it's all HP stuff, it's all weird/how different can it
be? (yep, that's how they thought) -- so I did.
Somewhere along the way I decided I wanted a windowing environment
that could handle HP terminal emulation on my desk, and after fooling
around a bit with PCs I saw some guy up in Berkeley trying to be rid
of a 9000 Series 320. So I bought it, and it was good. That sat
there 'til early 1994 when I got retreaded into a Windows device
driver kind of guy. Now I guess it's part of my collection -- it sits
in the storage closet.
> FWIW the 9000 Vectra series computers (or some of them anyway) used
> 80286 CPUs and were MS-DOS compatable.
9000 Vectra? My recollection of the Vectra family is that it's all
IBM-compatibles (well, mostly, I remember the earliest Vectras and
they were about 99% if you allowed for the HP-isms that snuck in, like
the HP-HIL interface for the keyboard and mouse, the HP keyboard with
the f1-f8 keys across the top, and the funky HP Multimode MDA/CGA
display adapter) and never was a part of the 9000 family.
Though I think I remember something about a coprocessor card (set?) you
could stick in ISA slot(s) to run Rocky Mountain BASIC. Of course HP
would have sold that in/for Vectra boxes.
> NOW My turn. Does anyone know exactly what a 9000 217 model is? I found
> one but I've neverheard of it before and it's not in any of my catalogs.
Every once in a while I see a flavor of 9000/200 that is built into or
around an HP 2382 terminal housing: small, beige skin, brown bezel around
9" monochrome CRT. I think some of the ones I've seen were hooked up
to 91[23]x disk drives, and can't remember whether the processor was in
a similarly-sized box or in the terminal. Could that be it?
I think the HP Integral PC was also the HP 9000/207 though I don't know
if it was ever sold under that name.
-Frank McConnell "I want my MPE" (w/apologies to Dire Straits)
<fmc(a)reanimators.org>
<> > second after they are type, especially on a Leading Edge Model D, w
I have a Leading Edge model D here in active use. Nice machine and
locked (no turbo) to 4.77mhz. Mine has had a hard disk controller
added and a souped up floppy controller to do 1.44 3.5". That and a V20
it's stock and runs well.
Save fpr I'm using it for other things I've had Win3.0 running on it
and it's not that bad considering.
Currently it has Wordperfect works on it and it's very useful for text
work.
Allison
At 11:38 PM 12/31/97, you wrote:
>You should have read the ad. It says "WANTED TO BUY AN IMSAI COMPUTER WITH
>OR WITH OUT MANUALS. ALSO ALTAIRS, PROLOG, KIMS, SBC-80-10 BY INTEL YEARS
>1975-1982 DECS, JUPER-II BY WAVE MATE. I WILL PAY UP TO 200+ FOR CSOME
I should have actually read the ad. I'm *really* sorry to have wasted
everone's time with this.
>Classifieds2000 is a waste of time IMO.
I'm beginning to think so too.
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I think that MAI produced an accounting system "solution" for businesses
consisting of a multi-user computer system and proprietary accounting
software.
I remember running into them occasionally during field audits of some of
our clients.
Rich Cini/WUGNET
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MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
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In a message dated 98-01-02 16:38:35 EST, you write:
<< >When I first ran winders it was on a 386/16 with 4mb of ram
> it seemed fast enough to do a lot of useful work.
>
>
> Allison
Well, yeah. But, that was when a Winders program came on a couple of
floppies, before the code -- and graphics -- bloat. A program, then, did
less and had less junk (toolbars and suchlike).
Still, some things _have_ improved in speed. My Corel Draw 3 on my laptop
handles text in a rather leisurely fashion, wheras Corel Draw 7 is quite
snappy.
manney(a)nwohio.com >>
Right. And if you ran MS Works 2.0 for DOS on an XT, which was unfortunately
what had to be done for a while with me, it would show characters maybe a
second after they are type, especially on a Leading Edge Model D, which was
first priority to replace among the 8 XTs that were slowly being phased out.
MS-DOS edit or Windows Write works very much faster. (Don't get me wrong here,
I love the Leading Edge Model D, it's just so damn slow)
> True story.
>
> When my sone was about 5, he had very interesting taste in TV shows. It
> went something like this:
>
> - If it is animated, watch it.
We all love Windows 95 :)
> - If it is live-action in color, change the channel.
We all love Windows 95 :)
> - If it is live-action in B&W, watch it for a while to see if it's funny.
Not that strange. Remember that Charlie Chaplin, The Three Stooges, and MS-DOS
1.0 are the three all-time comedy classics!
>
> Roger Ivie
> ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
> (Thank goodness *somebody*'s coloring all
> those boring old black and white movies! 8^)
True story.
When my sone was about 5, he had very interesting taste in TV shows. It
went something like this:
- If it is animated, watch it.
- If it is live-action in color, change the channel.
- If it is live-action in B&W, watch it for a while to see if it's funny.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
At 07:40 PM 1/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Yeah. EGA is pretty much the same as standard VGA (where windows is
>concerned). The colors (to me) look alot richer and more vibrant on an EGA.
>Maybe they just ditched the CGA/Herc drivers then.
3.1 (and 3.11?) had support for Hercules Mono. Which, iirc, wasn't such a
bad standard at 720xsomething (better than std VGA?) Of course, you didn't
get all those pretty colors... (Thank goodness *somebody*'s coloring all
those boring old black and white movies! 8^)
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At 12:21 PM 1/1/98 -0800, you wrote:
>If you're talking about the GEM I think you're talking about. Wasn't it
>licensed from Digital Research? GEM is also the basis for the 16 & 32-bit
>Atari's. I just can't remember at this point if the PC version ran on DOS,
>or if it required CP/M to run.
GEM is DR's product, and it did (does) run on the Atari ST & Falcon. Ran on
the PC over DOS, iirc.
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