This was just sent to me, and I am forwarding it unto you in case any of
y'all can help this guy out -- sounds like a good guy to me.
Please respond directly to him if you can help him out. Thanks!
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>Delivered-To: zmerch(a)northernway.net
>Delivered-To: m600(a)list.northernway.net
>X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: kosack owned process doing -bs
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:18:51 -0500 (EST)
>From: Daniel S Kosack <kosack(a)wam.umd.edu>
>To: m600(a)list.northernway.net
>Subject: Availability?
>
>
>Howdy,
>
> I'm curious to know how available used T600's are. I have a T1400, but
>I think a T600 would actually be more useful considering I have no hard
>drive and DOS apps are large. I'm a big MS-Works 1.0 fan (I have the DOS
>version, which fits on multiple disks) so I think I would get along with a
>T600 just fine. I remember when they first came out, and I've got a few
>100's, so I'm somewhat familiar with the line.
>
> Thanks for any info. I'm in the greater Washington DC metro area
>(United States). If there are any used/refurb computer places you know of
>in that vacinity that may have one, I'd be interested. I'd be even more
>interested if I could possibly trade my 1400LT for one (it's not in the
>best of shape, bad battery and not so hot screen anymor and manuals are
>lost, but it works).
>
>Dan Kosack.
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Regarding the first GUI:
It would seem that Douglas Englebart's work at the "Augmentation Research Center"
(ARC) of the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in Menlo Park was the first GUI
and was demonstrated at the Fall 1968 Joint Computer Conference in the
San Francisco Civic Auditorium by Englebart. The computer used was the one
at ARC (model unknown?) and was microwave linked to the display in the
Auditorium. Input devices included a keyboard, a 3 button mouse (invented 4
years earlier by Englebart), and a chord keyset - described as an input device
that resembled a five key segment cut from a piano keyboard.
Alan Kay was in attendance at that show and drew inspiration for his later work
at Xerox PARC on SmallTalk and the Xerox Alto (released in 1973, 2000 were made
and it is credited as "a contender for the title of world's first personal
computer").
The reference with all these claims is none other than the "Input/Ouput"
volume of the Time-Life "Understanding Computers" series (c) 1986
(L.O.C. QA76.1486 1986 004 85-28832; ISBN: 0-8094-5666-4 or
0-8094-5666-2 (library binding)). There is a picture of Englebart
conducting "a reprise" of his Joint Computer Conference show on page 65.
Peter Prymmer
Doea anyone have a spare 14 connector DIN cable? I need one for
connecting a disk drive to my Thomson TO-8 computer. I believe the same
cable is used to connect drives to the Atari ST series machines.
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<These two threads just bumped together in my head. Has anybody got
<an idea of how long data should last on wire? It can't have the same
If it didn't rust forever or until a stronger field distrurbed it.
<Anyone want to try running some fine ferrous wire through an old
<cassette (or even reel-to-reel) recorder, and see if the result is
Wouldn't work. The gap in the head is too narrow, the media speed is too
slow and the shape of the head would not favor it. Also wire requires
a strong bias to work as your magnetizing a tougher medium.
In real terms as a data storage medium it would be poor becuase of bit
density and reliability.
Even disks/drums of the time were very low density even though some were
oxide coated or even a few cobalt plated.
Allison
I am looking for manuals for the Sigma 7 computer system and the
Honeywell CP-V operating system. Would appreciate any information
about, or leads to help find these items.
Thanks,
David Wilson
dmwilson(a)worldnet.att.net or
David_Wilson(a)StrategicFulfillment.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Anybody want an Osborne?
>At 08:21 PM 1/14/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>If you can get just the video loopback connector I'll be interested, one
of
>>mine is missing it and I would like to replace it with an original.
>>thanks for the post.
>
> I can get the connector if you're willing to buy the computer to get it
>and can tell me where it is in the machine.
>
> Joe
I don't think I would pay $20 for just a connector. It' the little thingy on
the right below thew storage under the floppy, it has white writing on it
that says "do not remove while power is on". this is where you plug in an
extenal monitor but if you want to use the internal one, you have to have
this loopback.
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In a message dated 98-01-14 22:46:14 EST, you write:
<< Where did the following terms come from?
-Dongle
-Byte (named after nybble, or vice-versa?)
-Mainframe (Why not just...like..you know...call it a computer?)
-DB (as in DB-15, 25) I've also heard them called D-sub xx)
-Mouse >>
well, i'm sure we've all heard of how the story of how the dongle got it's
name. at least the version i heard is that the "thing" was created by a
character called Don Gall, and the name came forth from that. Sometimes i'll
tell the story at work, and have almost gotten several people to believe it.
lol.
david
If the price is too low then the item is not bought, if it is too high then
there is some magin to negociate with the seller. I've almost never paid the
asking price for anything (unless bought in a store) but usually hamfests
garage sales and flea markets are pretty flexible.
Let's say that I am looking for machine X and my max for it is $22, if you
find one for $25 it is possible to negotiate. Or we could set a price range.
Then there is the shipping, if I go to a hamfest with a list of 25 machines
that others are looking for and find let's say 7, they won't fit in my car
for one thing (I'll probably by stuff for me too;), and I have to package
them all and ship them etc...
Like I said I was only thinking about it. It may be feasible for a small
group of people but I don't think it could be open to all. (no
discriminations intended just practical stuff)
Anyways I believe that it is possible but you have to trust the people you
work with and limit the wishlist.
>The problem with this is determining how much one wants to pay for a
>particular system. You have to make sure in advance you know everyone's
>limit. Some people may not know what a reasonable price is, and may
>over-pay or put an unreasonable low limit on something they might want.
>
>Sam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
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