At 06:16 PM 1/14/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>>>How much did it go for? Just curious.
>>
>>$100
>>
>>if I were a rich man...
>
>Funny I paid 100FF for mine (that's about $18)
I got mine for $10, but no PS, or case, and a rust stain near the battery
case. If you find another one for 100FF, I've got francs...
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At 08:13 PM 1/15/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>"Bob's your uncle" is an expression indicating the completion of a
>>simple task. Or something.
>
>I always thought it meant something like "and all is right in the world."
>Of course, Bob really is my uncle... 8^)
Uhhh, I'll be a monkey's uncle! :P
(The following used to keep that comment on topic)
Okay, so I have a C-64c, 1541 floppy, and monitor. Now how exactly would I
go about downloading programs from the internet on my PC machine and
porting them over to the Commodore? Will I need a special serial cable? I
have the 64 boxed up at the moment so can't really tell what I need.
While we're talking commodores, what's so special about the C-64c besides
the C-128 style case?
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
At 07:10 PM 1/15/98 -0800, you wrote:
>That was the cheap, but hard way. Now for the easy, but expensive way.
>Lay out about $100 and get a Catweasel board either for your PC or better
Where's that webpage again? That sounds interesting, even if I don't get one.
>>While we're talking commodores, what's so special about the C-64c besides
>>the C-128 style case?
>
>Based on the answers I got a week or two ago, apparently nothing.
Ah, progress! Sometimes I wonder what drives computer companies to waste
resources like that.
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
Does this happen to anyone else?
I don't usually frequent the 5 or 6 thrift shops around here, and flea
markets and yard sales I don't have time for usually, but sometimes when
I'm going somewhere else, I have this "feeling", a sixth sense if you will,
that I absolutely have to stop at these places. When I do, I usually find
really rare or super deals on old computers, the ones I used to collect
anyway, before the GriD bug got ahold of me. I live in a city of 25,000
people, and I believe I'm the only person that owns any sort of GRiD
laptop. Any GRiDs I get are usually through deals on the internet.
I call this sixth sense my "metal telepathy". (Doh!)
At 09:17 PM 1/15/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I do that too stop at garage sales and couple stores on my way from work. I
>guess it was mostly meant for major events. For 'casual' shopping we
>probably can E-talk before making a move (the machine is probably not going
>to disapear overnight).
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
Tat goes without saying: placing a machine in a want list is also an
engagement to purchase it. Otherwise the system would not work for too long.
There should be an update prior to each outing to make sure that the
machines are still wanted.
let's say I'm going to a hamfest next WE, I post the info on that mailing
list (for the ones that want to be part of the ring), then I get requests
and bring the list of wanted with me. If i find one of the machines I buy it
and let the party interested know about it. If I get an I don't want it
anymore response I don't thinl I'll be looking for more of the guy's stuff.
And I'll make sure that everybody knows about it.
> Another problem is knowing if they still want the item. If you tell me
>that you want an X-computer and I buy one for you 2 months later I don't
>want to hear that you've changed your mind or that you've already found
>one.
>
> If anyone isn't going to take the stuff that they said they wanted then
>don't post a message saying that you want it. If you post a "wanted"
>message then you're obligated to take it when someone gets it for you.
>
> Joe
>
The day started out with no suprises. I arrived at the MCI building
intending to finish up an installation. Walking down the halls, I peeked
in some of the rooms, packed with all manner of telco equipment. It is 10
AM, and I start working.
By noon my work is done. I walked down the stairs, looking for the MCI
contact I deal with, and am confronted by a rather beat up looking IBM
Series/1 minicomputer, left in the hallway. It is fairly stripped out -
all of the processor boards have been removed, many cables have been cut,
and some of the front panels of the 6 foot rack are gone. It seems that
this beast is headed for the recyclers. I have wanted a Series/1 for some
time, and I had been eyeing a few at the Chicago site. Unfortunately, I do
not have a way to move the thing. That shot down my idea of grabbing it.
Anyway, just down the hallway is the room that had quite a large number of
Series/1 racks. They were part of some project that is still running in
some parts of the country. I looked around and saw that most of the racks
have been raped. Then, one of the racks starts rolling towards me. Behind
it is a man, pushing it along. I asked about the fate of the boxes, and he
replies that they are indeed scrap, and that he is the scrapper. I told
him that I collect computers, and that I have wanted a Series/1 for a
while. His expression immediately changed to that of pleasant suprise. He
replies that he collects chips. We reached common ground quickly, swapping
stories about some of the old beasts. Although he is not very old, it
seems that we has seen and scrapped just about every type of big iron ever
produced.
He then motions me over to a few racks off to the side. They had not yet
been raped! For 25 dollars each, I could have them, as they were no longer
MCI property. Hmmmmm...
I made a quick call to my storage locker company, as they rent vans. The
quote is quite reasonable, but they are 25 miles away. Time is very short,
as I have a plane to catch in the morning. I decided to go for it - for
100 dollars, I could have two big Series/1 machines to play with,
shipping included.
By 1:30 PM, it is quite clear that I needed to find a local rental
companies. A few stops later, I parked my car and drove off in a big van.
Now the fun started.
It dawned on me that my storage locker may close up after 6 PM, so I
switched into hyper mode. I picked out the two best machines, then started
to remove the disk drives, two each at 64 meg, and two each at 200 meg.
The things are very heavy, but proved to lighten up the racks remarkably.
I then decided to take only one whole rack, and all the bits of another
rack for spares. By 4:30 PM, the stuff is all loaded in the van. Now I had
to race to the storage locker.
By 5:45 PM I arrived at the locker. The place was still open, but time is
short. By the time everything is unloaded, the place was closing up. It
was 6:50 PM. Greatly relieved, I headed back to retrieve my car. By 8 PM I
am finally done, still amazed at what had just happened.
And all of this without a plan.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
At 10:30 PM 1/15/98 EST, you wrote:
>
>ive had that happen meself. thanks to it, i got two undisk drives and colour
>composite monitor that way for my //e. in another instance, i found a
platinum
>//e with matching unidisk and colour monitor at a separate place as well as
>stopping by a place i went once before and got my atari portfolio.
Anyone remember that story about the mouse that wanted some cheese, and he
had to go make all these other deals with the other animals, finding the
dog a bone, etc, until he finally got the cheese?
While flea market hopping one day about two years back, I came across a
TRS-80 model 100 in mint condition, included hard plastic carrying case,
data recorder, acoustic couplers, and manual. I paid $25 for the whole rig.
Kept it until a few months ago, when I saw a message on a newsgroup
somewhere. This guy wanted to trade an Atari Portfolio for an M100. I
traded him the M100 itself, none of the accessories for it (Since I had an
NEC PC8201a too I could use the other stuff with) for the Portfolio, with
the serial and parallel modules, manual, 3 memory cards, the works. Then,
about a month later, I found another collector that was having a big moving
sale. I traded the portfolio for a Zenith 386sx laptop, which I then ended
up selling for $176. But I swear if I kept doing the trading loop thing,
before too long I would have ended up with a active matrix pentium laptop
somewhere down the line, maybe even a car. :)
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
Subj: Re: Upcoming PBS special on bit rot
I wrote:
>I saw an advert in the latest issue of Scientific American for
>an upcoming special about archiving digital data to appear on
>PBS. It is supposed to show on the 13th (tomorrow) and alas
OK I have the magazine: there is a Review (not an advert) on page 110
of the Jan 1998 issue of Sci. Am. The television program will be:
"Into the Future: On the Preservation of Knowledge in the Electronic Age"
A film by Terry Sanders, narrated by Robert MacNeil; American Film
Foundation, 1997; Airing January 13 on PBS.
I do not know much about the "American Film Foundation" but MacNeil is
a PBS regular and PBS quite often offers transcipts and tapes for sale
at the end of many (but not all) of their broadcasts. While I have several
CRTs for use as monitors I do not own a television tuner or a VCR. (I also
note that the schedule posted at http://www.kqed.org/ implies that the
main Bay Area PBS broadcaster will not be showing Into the Future.)
Could folks who do manage to see it please post a message regarding whether
there is an address to which one could write to obtain transcripts/tapes?
Thanks.
Peter Prymmer
Well you show me what you have and I'll show you what I can find:)
Seriously I would very much like to find an Oric1 and an Atmos, I remember
drooling over the Electronique Pratique magazines when I was living in
France. There are also a few more that I have not seen around here but it
may well be like the amstrads who apparently made to Florida and not to
Minnesota (they must pretty smart machines;)
I have absolutely no clue as to what shipping from France to the US can cost
(the las shipping I did over the ocean was in 1989 when I moved to the US)
>I live in France ;-) but it IS my hobby TOO so how do we split the
>spoils?
>
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> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/>
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ive had that happen meself. thanks to it, i got two undisk drives and colour
composite monitor that way for my //e. in another instance, i found a platinum
//e with matching unidisk and colour monitor at a separate place as well as
stopping by a place i went once before and got my atari portfolio.
david
<< Does this happen to anyone else?
I don't usually frequent the 5 or 6 thrift shops around here, and flea
markets and yard sales I don't have time for usually, but sometimes when
I'm going somewhere else, I have this "feeling", a sixth sense if you will,
that I absolutely have to stop at these places. When I do, I usually find
really rare or super deals on old computers, the ones I used to collect
anyway, before the GriD bug got ahold of me. I live in a city of 25,000
people, and I believe I'm the only person that owns any sort of GRiD
laptop. Any GRiDs I get are usually through deals on the internet.
>>
