At 07:58 28-08-97 -0800, you wrote:
>> Tim or Allison, I could really use your help. Tim, I think something in
>> the mail system may be preventing my messages from reaching you.
>
>That might be. I see your messages here on classiccmp, at least...
<whew!> That, at least, is something... for a while, I thought I had
pestered you to death or some silly thing... ;-)
>OK, one last attempt with VMS EXCHANGE:
<snip>
Thank you! It all worked, and I now have the necessary files unZIPped onto
the MicroVAX.
Now the next hurdle; Ever since I installed OpenVMS 6.2, my second TK50
has disappeared. The device scan, at initial boot, won't even detect it.
Hardware setup is:
KA630 CPU, v. 1.3 firmware
16 MB memory
M3104 8-port serial MUX
DELQA Ethernet card (M7516YA)
RQDX3 (M7555), two RD54's and an RX50
Two TK50 drives/controllers (M7546)
RRD40 CD-ROM controller (M7552)
The Really Odd Thing is that it worked before, under MicroVMS 4.6, but now
it won't even work with that. I suspect, though I've not confirmed it yet,
that it may have to do with:
1). The fact that I've added a CD-ROM controller (appears as DUB0:)...
2). The order that I've got boards plugged into the backplane (BA123 box).
Tonight, I will try transposing the positions of the two TK50 controllers
I have. I will also try jumpering the suspect controller as the primary and
removing the RRD40's board.
Any suggestions would be welcome. As mentioned, I find it interesting that
two TK50's worked under MicroVMS 4.6, then suddenly stopped working under 6.2.
Do I need to use SYSGEN, perhaps, after the fact? If so, what string do I
feed it? (low on docs again!)
For comparison/test purposes, I'm going to CC this to the CLASSICCMP
mailing list as well as your return address. Whichever one you see first
will tell me if there really is a problem with the mail system.
CLASSICCMP users, my apologies. Please bear with me until I can figure out
what's been going weird with mail to Tim's site.
Thanks in advance!
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(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net)
http://www.wizards.net/technoid
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
> > Anyone ever heard of "Laser Magnetic Storage Co."? They made mass
> > storage
> > devices...I'm trying to find a driver.
> >
> > Thanks
> > manney(a)nwohio.com
> They are part of Philips, they still operate as Philips-LMS and now make
> optical drives sold under the Philips brand.
>
> James
Thanks a lot! I'll check.
Manney
>John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
>
>> Picked up few new finds this week. 1. A Challenger 2P (Model C2-4P) by
>> Ohio
>> Scientific SN5040. Anyone have spec's on this one?
>
>Interesting find! I have the Ohio Scientific Challlenger II, Model C2-4P,
>S/N732 and haven't found much info on it. The machine was obtained from a
>friend of a friend and no docs or anything came with it. So I also would be
>interested in any information you find out about this machine!
I don't have much, but I can give some of what I know. Ohio Scientific
made, or so I gather, four 8 bit home computers - the C1P, C2P, C4P and
C8P. Most of my info seems to be on the C8P, which was regarded as The Home
Computer of the Future largely due to its ability to control your security
system, electrical appliances (like lights), smoke alarms and so on, as
well as being able to dial up the police when needed.
The C2P, according to the little I have here, was a CIP with more ports, as
the IP had but one. Thus the info I have on specs is mostly for the 1P, not
the 2P, so I will give that in case it helps.
Anyway, the IP is said to have been the first fully packaged home computer
that you could just plug in and use. It came with either the MOS 6502 or
Motorola 6800 cpu as standard (depending on your requirements) and had a
CPU expansion board, allowing the addition of a Z80 or one of several other
popular CPU's. It had a standard 53 key keyboard, upper and lower case
letters, and 64 char by 24 line mono video. 4k or 12K RAM was standard,
with8k BASIC in ROM.
Sorry that I don't have more, but my interest tends to lie in the history,
rather than the specs. Just for fun, it is worth noting that Ohio
Scientific is noted for being the first PC Company to have a woman (Charity
Engel Cheiky, I think) as President.
Adam.
I recently aquired a 1040STe and STf as well. It's a great machine, If you
need a monitor for one I know where you can get a color 14inch stereo
monitor for 85.00. This machine will do Slip, PPP and do just about
anything a PC will do on the web, {with some upgrades} the Atari ST's were
very cool machines I've found. If you need any info or help with the Atari,
don't hesitate to ask, Its a wonderful fun machine.
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> From: Adam Jenkins <adam(a)merlin.net.au>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Challenger 2P
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 9:45 PM
>
> >John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
> >
> >> Picked up few new finds this week. 1. A Challenger 2P (Model C2-4P) by
> >> Ohio
> >> Scientific SN5040. Anyone have spec's on this one?
> >
> >Interesting find! I have the Ohio Scientific Challlenger II, Model
C2-4P,
> >S/N732 and haven't found much info on it. The machine was obtained from
a
> >friend of a friend and no docs or anything came with it. So I also
would be
> >interested in any information you find out about this machine!
>
> I don't have much, but I can give some of what I know. Ohio Scientific
> made, or so I gather, four 8 bit home computers - the C1P, C2P, C4P and
> C8P. Most of my info seems to be on the C8P, which was regarded as The
Home
> Computer of the Future largely due to its ability to control your
security
> system, electrical appliances (like lights), smoke alarms and so on, as
> well as being able to dial up the police when needed.
>
> The C2P, according to the little I have here, was a CIP with more ports,
as
> the IP had but one. Thus the info I have on specs is mostly for the 1P,
not
> the 2P, so I will give that in case it helps.
>
> Anyway, the IP is said to have been the first fully packaged home
computer
> that you could just plug in and use. It came with either the MOS 6502 or
> Motorola 6800 cpu as standard (depending on your requirements) and had a
> CPU expansion board, allowing the addition of a Z80 or one of several
other
> popular CPU's. It had a standard 53 key keyboard, upper and lower case
> letters, and 64 char by 24 line mono video. 4k or 12K RAM was standard,
> with8k BASIC in ROM.
>
> Sorry that I don't have more, but my interest tends to lie in the
history,
> rather than the specs. Just for fun, it is worth noting that Ohio
> Scientific is noted for being the first PC Company to have a woman
(Charity
> Engel Cheiky, I think) as President.
>
> Adam.
>
Picked up few new finds this week. 1. A Challenger 2P (Model C2-4P) by Ohio
Scientific SN5040. Anyone have spec's on this one?; 2. ATARI 1040STF with
mouse; 3. A IBM 5110, had to leave the 8inch drive unit and the printer no
more in car; 4. Tandy FD 501 unit; 5. IBM tape unit Type 3363; 6. SUN SPARC
station 1 model147; 7. CPT9000; and 8. Nextstation and color monitor. Now to
get it all cleaned up and working.
At 07:42 AM 30/08/97 +0200, you wrote:
>Adam Jenkins wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> You probably already know, but I just found a keen site selling Sinclair
>> ZX81 kits in the US. Apparantly they opicked up the original kits years
>> ago, and are only now trying to sell them. I am interested in putting one
>> of these togeather, as the ZX81 was a fascinating computer, and highly
>> significant in the Home Computer industry - especially in the UK.
>>
>> Anyway, it's at:
>>
>> http://www.users.interport.net/~zebra/ts
>>
>> and all the standard disclaimers apply. :)
>>
>> Adam.
>
>Thank you for pointing this to me BUT.....I have tried
>e-mailing and snail mailing them and....they don't answer.
>Fullstop.
>
>Perhaps they don't supply overseas. Try and let me know.
>However their kits are American and that means that the
>machines will NOT work in UK.
>
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the ZX81 a UK machine? I was under
the understanding that it was sold in North America as the TS1000
(Timex/Sinclair). I'm pretty sure the ZX81 was made in the UK (at least
that's what mine says on the case).
Of course I'm not sure if it was made in the UK for a North American market...
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The ZX81 was sold in both the US and the UK, the US version had a VHF RF
modulator and the UK version had a UHF modulator.
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> From: Alan Richards <alanr(a)morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Sinclair kits
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 12:24 AM
>
> At 07:42 AM 30/08/97 +0200, you wrote:
> >Adam Jenkins wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> You probably already know, but I just found a keen site selling
Sinclair
> >> ZX81 kits in the US. Apparantly they opicked up the original kits
years
> >> ago, and are only now trying to sell them. I am interested in putting
one
> >> of these togeather, as the ZX81 was a fascinating computer, and highly
> >> significant in the Home Computer industry - especially in the UK.
> >>
> >> Anyway, it's at:
> >>
> >> http://www.users.interport.net/~zebra/ts
> >>
> >> and all the standard disclaimers apply. :)
> >>
> >> Adam.
> >
> >Thank you for pointing this to me BUT.....I have tried
> >e-mailing and snail mailing them and....they don't answer.
> >Fullstop.
> >
> >Perhaps they don't supply overseas. Try and let me know.
> >However their kits are American and that means that the
> >machines will NOT work in UK.
> >
>
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the ZX81 a UK machine? I was under
> the understanding that it was sold in North America as the TS1000
> (Timex/Sinclair). I'm pretty sure the ZX81 was made in the UK (at least
> that's what mine says on the case).
> Of course I'm not sure if it was made in the UK for a North American
market...
>
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> The Man From D.A.D
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
CLASSICCMP READERS: Please pardon the CC. I'm still not sure that Tim is
able to receive mail from me for whatever reason.
Ok... here's the current status. I've used SYSGEN as you described, reset
a couple of cards as needed to correct some mis-set addresses, and put
everything back together.
I've used AUTOCONFIG ALL /SELECT=(PU,PT,XQ,TX). This should have
configured the tapes, the disks, the DELQA, and the DHV11.
I then issued the commands:
SYSGEN> WRITE ACTIVE
SYSGEN> WRITE CURRENT
SYSGEN> EXIT
I then shut down and rebooted. However, the second TK50 still does not
appear to be available under any of the device names. It should, I thought,
come up as MUB0:, PUA0: or PUB0:. I cannot mount it under any of those
designators. At this point, I am reinstalling OpenVMS 6.2 from scratch on
another drive. I'll see what happens then.
I've borrowed some documentation that covers SYSGEN, but either I'm not
doing something right or I've overlooked something so basic that either one
of us might take it for granted.
Could the problems I've been having with the license management affect it?
As soon as I get the hardware issues dealt with, I can -- FINALLY!! --
copy that stupid tape!
Please let me know if you receive this in your E-mail box or only from
CLASSICCMP. Thanks in advance.
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Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272)
(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net)
http://www.wizards.net/technoid
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
Wont they work if you just get an PAL RF modulator? Or don't install the
modulator and just use a composite monitor.
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> From: e.tedeschi <e.tedeschi(a)ndirect.co.uk>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Sinclair kits
> Date: Saturday, August 30, 1997 12:42 AM
>
> Adam Jenkins wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > You probably already know, but I just found a keen site selling
Sinclair
> > ZX81 kits in the US. Apparantly they opicked up the original kits
years
> > ago, and are only now trying to sell them. I am interested in putting
one
> > of these togeather, as the ZX81 was a fascinating computer, and highly
> > significant in the Home Computer industry - especially in the UK.
> >
> > Anyway, it's at:
> >
> > http://www.users.interport.net/~zebra/ts
> >
> > and all the standard disclaimers apply. :)
> >
> > Adam.
>
> Thank you for pointing this to me BUT.....I have tried
> e-mailing and snail mailing them and....they don't answer.
> Fullstop.
>
> Perhaps they don't supply overseas. Try and let me know.
> However their kits are American and that means that the
> machines will NOT work in UK.
>
> Good luck.
>
> enrico
> --
> ============================================================
> Enrico Tedeschi, 54, Easthill Drive, BRIGHTON BN41 2FD, U.K.
> tel/fax +(0)1273 701650 (24 hours) or 0850 104725 mobile
> website: <http://www.Brighton-UK.com>
> ============================================================
>
Ok, I picked up some keen stuff today that I'd like to hopefully get some
information for.
1. Tektronix 4041 Computer/Controller.
Now this is neat. Unfortunately it doesn't do a whole lot at the moment.
First a description: its about 8" wide by 8" high (front) by 2' long. It
has a built-in 20 column thermal printer and a DC-100 tape drive. The
front panel consists of a numeric keypad plus some other special function
keys, an LED display and some status LEDs. I opened it up and found that
it is a 68000 based system. It seems to use an S-100 bus, since the cards
have S-100 edge connectors. It has four slots, and two of the slots are
filled. One has the CPU card with the 68000 processor. The other is a
Standard I/O card. The two other slots are Read/Write Memory (RAM) and an
Option Card slot. The front panel also has a slot for a ROM pack. The
ROM pack is a tray that pulls out and has two ROM packs plugged in with
room for 4 more ROM packs. The ROM packs included allow for BASIC
programming. On the back is an RS-232C port and a GP-IB (IEEE488) port.
It is circa 1981.
When I first booted it up the printer started spitting out paper. The
next time I turned it on only the power LED came on. I then turned it
off and opened up the cover to examine its innards. I pulled each card
and checked them out then replaced them. I turned it back on and this
time got "SELF TEST" on the display. It never does anything after that.
I got two manuals with it, and of what I've read so far, the self test
should check all the controllers for the tape drive, the printer, the
front panel, and perform other diagnostics, then show the ROM version,
but it never does this. I'm wondering if a lack of a RAM card is the
culprit.
This system also came with an optional programming keyboard, which was
just a full size keyboard for entering in programs.
If anyone can shed any light on this sucker and what else it could do I
would appreciate it. I remember seeing in a book I have a picture of the
graphics output of some Tektronix computer on a screen. I can't remember
what book this was in or even where that book may be. I wonder if this
is the system that produced that output?
2. A Lynx 460 Floppy Drive Alignment Tester. It has two connectors for
8" and 5.25" floppy drives. It has all sorts of toggle switches on it for
selecting the drive (1, 2, 3 or 4), the head (1 or 0), the track address,
etc. It also has status LEDs to show, for instance, Amplitude, Radial,
Head Load, etc. Not that I know what any of this means (not yet at
least, I got it with manuals and the manuals have a nice introduction to
disk drive theory of operation). Anyway, apparently you use this in
conjunction with alignment disks. Looks like a cool box (it's very
small, the size of a notebook) that will come in handy in years to come.
Any further information on either of these would be appreciated.
Sam
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