test-drb July 1997

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111 participants
442 discussions

by thedm＠sunflower.com

I need a 128 for my collection, care to part with one? ---------- > From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Saturday Haul > Date: Saturday, July 12, 1997 10:23 PM > > Today was one of those good days/bad days. I ended up with quite a few > machines I didn't have but ended up losing out on some stuff. The bad > news? I bought an 11/23 w/ HD and it somehow got separated from the > stuff I bought and I do not have it now. Second, that Spectragraphics > CAD workstation I have been telling people about had 6 Sony color > Trinitron monitors, all working, and they sold for $5 each. I am told > (after the fact) that they are worth about $500 each on the used > equipment market. > > Good news, I ended up with: > > Tandy 6000 HD w/docs and software > ATT PC7300 w/ some docs and software > Three Apple IIe computers w/ 4 floppy drives total > Apple IIc computer w/monitor, printer, software, manuals > Wang Computer model PC-XC3-2 (docs coming when they get found) > Two Commodore 128C computers > Non-Linear-Systems Kaypro II > Two IBM PC Keyboards > Six C64 game cartridges > Modem for C64 > Radio Shack Printer > 386 DX40 w/ 200 MB HD, 6 MB Ram > > Total outlay was about $30. Ham radio events can be a goldmine for old > computer stuff!

27 years, 5 months

Altair Construction Manual

by rcini＠msn.com

To all Altair fans... Well, my more-than-kind individual has provided me with the first of three installments of the original Altair construction manual. He scanned all 102 pages of the doc and made it into a PDF document -- almost 7mb in size. He is also providing me with manuals for "the 88-4K, 88-ACR, and other stuff." I'm not too familiar with all of the available options since the Altair was really before my time, but it looks like the 4k memory board and other stuff. I'm not going to U/L the docs yet, first for size reasons, and second, until we determine if we should try to contact Triumph-Adler... On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Jim Willing wrote: >>So, it can be assumed that TA [Triumph-Adler of Germany] now >>owns all of the rights to things MITS/Altair. I've tried to contact them >>on occasion on related matters and have gotten no response of any >>kind to date. Anybody have any thoughts? ------------------------ Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCPS Windows 95/Networking

27 years, 5 months

PDP performance question.

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> How is a PDP-11/23 compared to a 486SX/33? An 11/23 is slower than a 486 if it's running faster than 16mhz. but a 486 is running single user. > About how many percent is the PDP of the 486? what is a PDP? choices 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,11/780,11/750,11/730? > About how many percent of the 486 is the VAX? Depending... first I've rarely seen a vax run a single user OS. A 486dx/33 compares to a 3100m38 if they are both running *nix. while the vax is slower in MIPs it is the ultimate CISC and can do more in fewer than a 486. It is also optimized for multitasking/timsharing something the 486 is not. Allison

27 years, 5 months

What Classic Computer are All About - A Lovers View

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

> It's a pity that a lot of the custom uProcessors were never really > publicly documented. That includes the ones found in the Sharp Basic > calculators. Some of the Sharp ones were documented - There are Technical reference/machine language manuals for (at least) the PC1500 and PC1350 families - I have both of them. Sharp service manuals (yes, they exist as well) contain schematics/pinouts but little (if any) machine code information. > Ben -tony >

27 years, 5 months

We now own a VAX!

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-07-12 19:18:47 EDT, DA Seagraves put forth: you might want to post about it on comp.sys.dec newsgroup. i asked for some info there on my uVAX ][ i got recently, and got some really good info from the regulars there. there's a faq also, try ftp'ing to digital and look around. i know there's one there. << For $200 I got a VAX from a business that went under. It's a VAXserver 3100, with VMS 5.3 on it. I have no idea what to do with it, this is the first time I've ever seen VMS. I have a 50-user liscense. When I boot it up, it seems to wait forever for DECWindows to get DECnet or something... Someone please explain what this is and what it can do. Any help appreciated. This had an IP number, so it may be on the Internet if I can make it work... >> david

27 years, 5 months

Classic Video Games

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-07-12 07:42:02 EDT, Sam Ismail writes: << If you've ever heard that one Fleetwood Mac song, you'll recognize the "tackle" sound in one part of the song where he sings "So digital" and then you hear "blrrrp blrrrp". >> actually, it's supertramp. =D david

27 years, 5 months

Modem Collection

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> Just curious (again!) if anyone is collecting the early modems used on > computers and what might have been the earliest commercial phone modem. I'm not doing it on purpose, but I find myself unable to let go of this Novation CAT modem that I dredged up a few years ago... Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

27 years, 5 months

Panasonic HandHeld Update and FINAL COUNT!

by dastar＠crl.com

Ok Folks, here it is...the final count. Any last minute additions will be accomodated up until tonight so act soon. E-mail Name Qty ------------------------------ ----------------- --- dastar(a)crl.com Sam Ismail 4 allisonp(a)world.std.com Allison Parent 3 jeff(a)unix.aardvarkol.com Jeff Hellige 2 KFergason(a)aol.com Kelly Fergason 3 tuck6(a)ibm.net Gary Tucker 2 sinasohn(a)crl.com Roger Sinasohn 5 gram(a)cnct.com Ward Griffiths 3 bcoakley(a)teleport.com Ben Coakley 1 pcoad(a)crl.com Paul Coad 2 jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com Jim Willing 3 rcini(a)msn.com Richard Cini 3 hans1(a)filan00.grenoble.hp.com Hans Pufal 5 ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca Doug Spence 3 jott(a)maddog.ee.nd.edu John Ott 1 bwit(a)pobox.com Bob Withers 4 frank(a)5points.com Frank Peseckis 2 zmerch(a)northernway.net Roger Merchberger 3 ursa(a)idir.net ursa 4 rws(a)ais.net Richard Schauer 2 stuart(a)colossus.mathcs.rhodes.edu Brian Stuart 3 jlodoen(a)mega.megamed.com Jeff Lodoen 1 s-ware(a)nwu.edu Scott Ware 3 SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com 1 jrice(a)texoma.net James Rice 3 bluesky6(a)netcom.com Benedict Chong 2 dynasoar(a)mindspring.com Kirk Scott 2 jolminkh(a)c2.telstra-mm.net.au Hans Olminkhof 2 mtapley(a)swri.edu Mark Tapley 1 scm(a)smorang.enm.maine.edu Stacy Morang 2 danjo(a)xnet.com Brett 2 haley(a)galstar.com Curtis Haley 1 george.lin(a)documentum.com George Lin 2 idavis(a)comland.com Isaac Davis 2 fmc(a)reanimators.org Frank McConnell 10 mpsayler(a)cs.utexas.edu Matthew Sayler 1 gpine(a)popmail.mcs.net Gerald Pine 2 kai(a)microsoft.com Kai Kaltenbach 2 jdgale(a)romulus.ncsc.mil Jeremiah Gale 1 tedbird(a)netcom.com Ted Birdsell 2 broswell(a)syssrc.com Bob Roswell 1 foxnhare(a)goldrush.com Larry Anderson 2 Current Total: 103 If you're not on here, better e-mail to me soon. If you tried e-mailing me and your message bounced, send it to the group discussion and you will be forgiven. If your e-mail address as shown is incorrect please send me your correct address. I also have gotten quite a bit of interest from my internet sale ad and as a result the price per each for all of you will likely be pushed down. If you don't know what the hell I'm blathering about, this is in regards to the Panasonic HandHeld computers (about 400) that we are making a deal on. It was a handheld unit which featured: 6502 processor 8K RAM (the "top-of-the-line" model) 3 slots for 8K program EPROM on-board 40-column thermal printer (paper can still be found allegedly) 26 character x 1 line display Full "QWERTY" keyboard FORTH-like language in ROM called "SNAP" Measures 9" x 3.5" These units also have: Custom built tray to hold 10 additional 8K EPROMS Tray also housed both computer and printer to make one compact unit Some MCM 68674 8K EPROMs with programs on them AC Adaptor Current price will be < $10 per unit! If you would like to reserve one (or two or three or ten), e-mail me. Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

27 years, 5 months

Classic Video Games

by jeffh＠unix.aardvarkol.com

At 06:38 PM 7/11/97 -0700, you wrote: >When I was in high school, there was a precursor to the Lynx/Gameboy/etc. >crowd that was a football game. There were little red LED's(?) to represent >players, and you had up, down, and run buttons to control the quarter back. >It was very simplistic; you basically just ran the quarterback until you got >a touchdown (but I think you could do a fieldgoal?) Anyway, I think Radio >Shack sold one, but it may have been someone else. Yes, I remember these quite well...they made the most annoying 'blips' and 'beeps'! I don't recall who made them or what they were called, though I believe Coleco made something like it at one time. I remember they were really popular when I was in junior high, about 1979-80 or so and that the teachers must have had quite a collection of similar games the way they were always confiscating them! I also had a fairly neat blackjack handheld at about the same time. Jeff jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Amiga enthusiast and collector of early, classic microcomputers http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

27 years, 5 months

History of Video Games (RE: "Bally Astrocade")

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Neither - The first arcade videogame was Nutting & Associates Computer Space, designed by Nolan Bushnell in 1971, who later designed Pong (1972) with the profits, and founded Atari. The first home videogame was the Magnavox Odyssey 100, in 1972. The first ROM cartridge-based home video game title is co-owned by the Fairchild Channel F and the RCA Studio II, which were introduced simultaneously in 1976. The first vector graphic arcade game was Lunar Lander in 1979, followed by Asteroids later that year. The first (and only) vector graphic home video game was the GCE/Milton Bradley Vectrex in 1982. Kai > ---------- > From: PG Manney > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Friday, July 11, 1997 6:59 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: "Bally Astrocade" > > Speaking of video games, I have 2 different sources which say that the > first video game was > > 1)Pong > 2) Asteroids. > > I personally believe asteroids, as the game (in my recollectopn, at > least) > used vector graphics, which should be faster and simpler than Pong's > raster > image. > > ...Or am I all wet? Anyone know? > > (Trivia -- What does "Pac" in Pac-man stand for? answer on request.) >

27 years, 5 months

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test-drb July 1997