At 09:24 PM 7/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>In regard to your post about the old hand held football game... I
[...]
>believe it was the SAME one that was manufactured by Coleco, or a similar
I think the one I had was a Coleco or somebody like that, but I could be wrong.
>around. Just the other day, I was in a thrift store in Nebraska City, NE
>and they had a pile of 'old' handhelds. I didn't have time to look through
>it close, though.... but I'm darn sure they did have a football game or
>two though. I'll go back and check it out for you, though. Oh, while were
That would be fantastic! I don't know what they sell for now, but I can't
imagine it would be bank breaking. Thanks!
>on the subject of old football games.... how about those darned magnetic
>full-field table football games they used to make?? Do they still exist?
I know what you mean, but I never had one. I doubt they still make them;
Everyone plays Joe Blow Football '97 on the Super Nintendo nowadays. (My
girlfriend's brother does anyway.) I can't even say I've seen one recently.
The Musee Mechanique at the Cliff House here in San Francisco probably has
one (and other, even older games too!) If you're ever in the City and like
that sort of thing, definitely stop in. They have modern games as well as
old stuff.
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Hello, all:
I'm trying to track-down a mod that Tandy on the Expansion Interface. On one
of my early EIs (SN# 000352), there was a 6-pin DIN modification, which
someone at one time told me was to correct some erratic signal problems.
So, I called Tandy and ordered the EI service manual, but it only applies to
the "new" PCB version (units with SNs 035000 or greater). Does anyone have the
schematics to the original one and can check pin functions?? Internally, the
board is labelled "1700077-C", does not have the green conformal coating, and
has the RAM chips right next to the power supply section.
Mod 1 is on IC Z17 (LS157), pins 1 and 8 (GND)
Mod 2 is on IC Z24 (LS32), pins 4 and 7 (GND)
Mod 3 is on IC Z22 (LS367), pins 12 and 8 (GND)
Matching the old ICs and pin numbers to the new schematics produces the
following:
Mod 1 is for the MMUX line, Mod 2 is for WR* and Mod 3 is for INT*
Can anyone verify this?
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- MCPS Windows 95/Networking
Message text written by Sam:
>I figure total shipping costs will be $4 for a single unit, $5 for a
couple, etc. Not sure exactly.
I realize the shipping costs may not be what some people bargained for so
at this point I would ask that if you want to or need to back out, please
do it soon.
I am going to try and negotiate a lump sum for the total units that will
hopefully bring the cost per unit to $7. That's what I'm shooting for.<
I don't know why anyone in their right mind would back out. You said
originally $10 per unit, and if the above figures work out, that would end
up $12 for a single unit delivered; not bad at all. In fact, for the folks
who asked for two, the above figures would product $19 delivered, CHEAPER
than you originally said.
Still, you're left doing an awful lot of packaging, etc. You might at
least want to build in $1-$2 a unit "profit" just to compensate for all
your time and effort. On 400 units, that would at least get you a few nice
dinners! Please accept our thanks for all your work on this.
Gil Parrish
107765.1161(a)compuserve.com
In a message dated 97-07-14 11:38:57 EDT, you write:
actually, i've heard that novation applecat modem was desired by the
hacker/phone phreak crowd because of it's abilities. i think it could emulate
the dialing tones and do dtmf to make free phone calls. anyone have any
correct or detailed info about this?
<< >> I'm not doing it on purpose, but I find myself unable to let go of this
>> Novation CAT modem that I dredged up a few years ago...
>
>Hmm; I just picked one of these up with an incomplete Apple ][plus system
>that I haven't yet had time to muck with, short of cleaning it up a bit.
>What's special about it?
Absolutely nothing. It's a standard 300 baud modem.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
>>
david
->I'm pretty sure that these aren't host adapters; I think they're
->controllers in the traditional SCSI sense. (i.e. you sandwich
->them between the SCSI bus and a MFM or ESDI drive.)
->
->> One is a WD-1000-05, one's a WD-1000-50, and a WD-1000-TB1. If
->> anyone has docs for these (or can tell me where to get them) I would
->> really appreciate it.
Tim,
They may be host adaptors depending on the suffix they can be host or
SASI (pre-scsi).
I know the 1002-05/hdo is host.
Allison
->Here's a real classic for ya. I'd have killed for a system like
->this one, but married life, no room, no time, blah blah blah . . .
->Anyone have a use for a
->Motorola 6800 Exorcisor
->System? This is a real
I have the granmother to that the 6800D1 board. If it has a 6809 it's
not as old as one with a 6800!
Delopment systems are real collectable as they are fewer in numbers.
Allison
At 23:45 13/07/97 GMT, you wrote:
>>GPIB = General-Purpose Interface Bus. Aka IEEE-488, and very similar to
>HPIB (= Hewlett-Packard Interface bus). HP were the company who designed it,
>but it turns up on all sorts of machines.
>
>It's an 8-bit parallel interface using a 24 pin connector. 8 pins are ground,
>8 are data, 3 are handshake, and 5 are bus control/management. It was
>originally designed to link up lab equipment (DVMs, counters, digital 'scopes,
But also for interfacing Analytical Instruments (Spectrophotometers, Gas
Chromatography etc.) for chemical laboratory, where HP is still one of the
most important developing company, and where GPIB is still used.
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I saw an interesting relic in the thrift store the other day...and IBM PC
"Expansion Chassis" (I believe that's what it was called). It was
basically an IBM PC case with two full height hard drives instead of
floppy drives. It's model number was 5161 (if I recall correctly).
Didn't bother with it, even though it is kinda unique.
Sam
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Ok, saw three things of interest today.
First, I saw a set of boxes from some Scottish company. One was called
the PAM computer and simply had some red LED displays on the front to
display numbers. Another was FINANCIAL ANALYSER and another still was,
oh, forgot. Weird. Anyone ever heard about these? They seemed to be
boxes for doing calculations, or displaying results of formulas?
Also saw and picked up this Convergent computer thingy. Pretty cool. It
has modules that plug together. One is the PROCESSOR module, then
there's the EXPANSION DISK module. The boxes which make up this
"computer" fit together via this bus and then there's this lever you use
to lock the boxes together. Seems I forgot to pickup the Processor
module (paid for it but forgot to get it). I also saw some dumb
terminals for this system at a thrift shop (they are gone now). Anyone
have any info on this?
Lastly, I saw this pretty awesome looking Morrow computer which seemed to
be of a portable ilk. At first when I saw it from afar it looked like
one of those phony props you see in furniture stores. When I got up
close I realized it was an actual computer with this funky wide screen
built in (it was about 4" high by 8" wide) and two floppy disks. The
proprietor of the place I was at made me put it back because apparently
it has all the store's financial records back a few years. I offered to
copy all the data off for him and pay him good for it but he flat-out
refused. Very frustrating. I plan on bugging him about it everytime I
go back.
Sam
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:> Technology PMOS NMOS
This is wrong. both are N-channel silicone gate NMOS.
:> # of Instructions 69 70
What this doesn't tell is that the F8 had a very weak instruction set.
doing something like xoring a byte was tedious to say the least. The
8080 instruction set was far more general.
The F8 was aimed at the market that the 8048 and 8051 would later
dominate, IE: single chip MPUs of general application.
Also april '78 KILOBAUD had an article speculating on how to use a VB
system as a cheap graphic peripheral.
Allison
