Found this in comp.os.cpm. It is on the wrong side of the country
for me.
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From: Stephen Griswold <stephen.griswold(a)CIRCUITCELLAR.COM>
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Subject: fwd: Kaypro 2 For sale
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* Originally By: Calvin Krusen (Local BBS)
* Originally To: All
* Originally Re: Kaypro 2 For sale
* Original Area: General Interest
While cleaning the basement of the company I work for, I found a
Kaypro 2 "portable" PC. Its blue with an integrated 5" green
monitor and two 5-1/4" disk drives. On power up, it tries to boot
>from one of the drives and displays a message on the display to
insert system disk.
I'm not looking for any money for it, just a good home.
It weighs about 27 lbs, so you would have to pick up the shipping
>from Warrington, PA (just outside Philadelphia).
I'll give one week for responses then it goes in the trash.
Email me direct at ckrusen(a)erols.com or call me at my place of work\
215/343-6600 x122.
Calvin Krusen
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Director of Engineering
MEECO Inc.
Warrington, PA 18976
215/343-6600 x122
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At 07:47 PM 6/12/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I noticed their web page and it looks like a pretty good collection!
>One thing I didn't see there was information about how it got started,
>who was involved, what kind of a group it is, etc. Can you help out and
>fill in the blanks? Thanks!
Okay, let me put in a disclaimer that a) I have a horrible memory and b) I'm
not super involved in the day-to-day stuff (I've spent the last 2 years
dealing with the passing of my mother and taking care of my father among
other disasters -- the best thing in the last two years has been having to
have my entire sewer system replaced because of tree roots completely
clogging it.) (Oh, and a general disclaimer that I really don't know as
much as people seem to think I do.)
Anyway, what happened is Kip Crosby realized that much of our history was
disappearing as companies tossed their old, non-pc systems in favor of
Gateway 2000's et al. I think this came about because he replaced Brenda
(his older, multi-user micro (IMS? something like that)) with PC's. Being a
realist, however, he decided to concentrate on California computers only (A
daunting task in and of itself). I think he hoped to see other orgs
covering other areas in the future.
I knew Kip from eons ago (early 80's) when we were on a couple of Fido
BBS's. He rang me and a couple others up and we got together, tossed around
the ideas. He got going on it, and I signed on as Secretary. I must admit,
though, that I kinda left most of it in his capable hands. (I trust him to
do it right.)
The focus (from what I see) right now is research and the Analytical Engine
(the magazine). Also, collecting/cataloging classic computers. Right now,
the collection (which I'm pretty sure is not fully represented on the web
pages) exists in a bunch of containers in San Jose. There are plans for a
museum at some point, as well as exhibits.
The coup d'grace (is that the right word?) for CHAC was saving the SDS 930
>from Colorado. This is a Mainframe built in (IIRC) 1963 here in California.
It was then sent to Colorado for NASA? to use, and ended up doing something
with Weather. It was in use up to a few years ago, and was going to be
scrapped, but Kip worked his tail off to save it and bring it out here where
it will become the centerpiece of the assn's displays.
Hmmm... Perhaps I should pass this on to Kip himself before I pass on too
much misinformation... 8^)
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sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Kai Kaltenbach said:
> | And if we caught anybody throwing anything out we'd jump out
>of the back
> | of the van and beat them senseless (and then pick their stuff
>out of the
> | trash)
> | LeS
>
>No need for violence... we'll just go to their house and throw out their
>Pentium :)
>Kai
No... you've got that wrong... we'll go to their house and *steal* their
Pentium, so that we can sell it on the black market for money to buy more
classic computers with!!!! ;^>
"Merch"
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Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed,
Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should
zmerch(a)northernway.net | *not* be your first career choice.
In my previous message I wrote (re: meanings of video signals),
> The other two signals are the quadrature components of chrominance.
> They are derived from Y by subtracting red and blue, and are normally
> called U and V (in some order).
>
> The colour telly receives U and V phase modulated onto a subcarrier (I
> think). The hue control on American tellies sets the baseline against
> which phase is measured here. (In Europe, the PAL system reverses the
> phase each line, so any hue errors should cancel out)
Before someone like Tony jumps down my throat, U and V are _amplitude_
modulated onto the subcarrier, in quadrature with one another. Thus the
phase of the subcarrier gives the hue, and its amplitude the saturation.
I hope you are not any more confused than before :-)
Philip.
| And if we caught anybody throwing anything out we'd jump out
of the back
| of the van and beat them senseless (and then pick their stuff
out of the
| trash)
| LeS
No need for violence... we'll just go to their house and throw out their
Pentium :)
Kai
You can find the info on
http://www.research.ibm.com/quantuminfo/teleportation/
:)
Kai
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> From: Marvin[SMTP:marvin@rain.org]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 1997 10:10 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: IBM Transporter
>
> In looking at Bill's collection on the Web, I noticed a reference to
> the
> IBM Transporter. I found a card that had those words on it and am
> curious what this thing is, what it does, is software required, etc.
> Thanks.
>
Bill:
You have a great listserver here, and I'm glad I've subscribed. I'm going
to assume (and yes, I know the consequences <g>) that advertising a
special-interest listserve is o.k. provided it's within the realm of this
list.
Well, they are. I have started two listservers, one of which used to be
*very* popular in it's heyday (which, unforch, has passed it seems) and the
other solely because there wasn't one.
The first is a replacement for Andrew Diller's Model 100/102/200 listserve,
and one can subscribe by going to the web page at:
http://home.northernway.net/~zmerch/signupform.html
or sending an e-mail to m100-request(a)list.northernway.net with "subscribe"
(no quotes) in the _Subject:_ of the message. To send messages to the list,
e-mail m100(a)list.northernway.net.
The second is my own creation, because there was no Tandy Model 600
listserver. It can be accessed thru it's web page at:
http://home.northernway.net/~zmerch/signupm600.html
or sending an e-mail to m600-request(a)list.northernway.net with "subscribe"
(no quotes) in the _Subject:_ of the message. To send messages to the list,
e-mail m600(a)list.northernway.net.
I don't have to mention to anyone just how wonderful these lists can be for
information... If you're interested in these machines, come on in and join
the fun!
Thanks for the bandwidth,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed,
Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should
zmerch(a)northernway.net | *not* be your first career choice.
I haven't received any new issues of the Classic Computer mailings since
June 7th. Is there anything wrong? This has happened before, maybe it's
my mail provider. Should I sign off and re-register as a new member of
the list?
> At 09:24 AM 6/11/97 -0700, Sam wrote:
> >On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, James Willing wrote:
> >
> >> Mayhaps, as a parallel to the 'Classic Computer Index", we need to
> develop
> >> a 'Classic Computer Collectors Index' so that we know where others are
> >> when things like this pop up so that we could have some local options.
<snip>
> >> Or am I just dreaming out loud?
> >
> >Not at all. This is a terrific idea! I nominate Bill Whitson to
> >formulate this list :)
I think that we should take this a little more seriously. I propose that we
form regional SWAT teams. In the event of a classic computer crisis the
nearest SWAT team would be dispatched. Ideally each team would be comprised
of individuals who each had a separate area of expertise, i.e. Apple II,
Coco, TI, etc. Rescued computers could then be placed in foster homes until
caring, loving permanent homes could be found. :-)
Lou
