In a message dated 97-06-11 02:45:42 EDT, you write:
> Do any of you collectors
> have a use for them or need them to complete a given machine?
I certainly could use three or four. A lot of the older machines including
the Kaypro 2's and IBM PC's and XT's came equipped with Tandon drives which
were poorly made. As a result I have two or three machines sitting around
that need 5 1/4" full height drive transplants. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
Regards,
Lou
At 08:48 AM 6/12/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Can't help with compatibility although the pinout for the Atari Joystick
>is:
>
>Pin 1 - Forward
>Pin 2 - Back
>Pin 3 - Left
>Pin 4 - Right
>Pin 5 - No Connection
>Pin 6 - Trigger
>Pin 7 - No Connection
>Pin 8 - Ground
>Pin 9 - No Connection
Because the Atari (same as commodore and others) joysticks are digital
(on/off for each direction; done with simple switches) instead of analog
(varying amount of each direction; done with potentiometers) like most PC
joysticks, it is rather easy to build alternative input devices, whether
it's something to stand on, or a bunch of buttons, or whatever.
I think the other pins (5, 7, 9) were used for the paddles (which were
analog devices.)
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San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
btw, there's also an interesting sounding doohickey up for bid:
'84 Portable Personal Computer Sord IS-11C (item #xjw18405)
Ends sunday the 15th, and there are 7 available. Anyone know anything about
it?
You can get to it at <http://www2.ebay.com/aw/itemfast.cgi?item=xjw18405>.
Min bid is $25, though.
AuctionWeb is a good place to find interesting things sometimes, especially
early PC and just-before-pc stuff. (And I hate to tell people because that
means more bidders which means higher bids...)
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sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
That's a Cipher ST150. It's a old, generic (apart from being early
SCSI) 150MB 1/4" SCSI tape drive. It's still supported by most backup
software.
Kai
> ----------
> From: allisonp@world.std.com[SMTP:allisonp@world.std.com]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 1997 6:06 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: looking for info on tape drive
>
> slightly off but information needed.
>
> Cipher model st150s-II 6150? cartridge tape drive scsi interface.
>
> I need data on this jumpers commands anything.
>
> Allison
>
At 14:38 11/06/97 -0500, Issac Davis wrote:
>I can see that we are going to inundate this list with our home locations.
>I will go ahead and volunteer to keep the list, and put it up on my web
>site. If you want to be added to this list, email me idavis(a)comland.com
>with your name, city/area, and a way to contact you - email or phone. After
>the list is compiled, I will put it on the web, and will be able to email it
>to anyone involved.
>Feel free to give me any contact information you want. I will only include
what you tell me to.
>Isaac Davis
>idavis(a)comland.com
>indavis(a)juno.com
Hi, Isaac,
really a very good idea.
So here I am:
NAME:Riccardo Romagnoli
CITY/AREA:Forli'(FO)/Emilia Romagna/Italy
WAY TO CONTACT ME:chemif@mbox.queen.it
Fax:+39-(0)543-402190
Telex:551132 CHEMIF I (yes, the old 50 BAUD stuff!)
RANGE:Emilia-Romagna region (Ev. North side of the "boot")
MAIN AREA OF INTEREST:Mini's from 70's (esp. Texas DS990/x
family);Micro;Olivetti;all kind teletypes machines from any age;Printers.
I will be glad to exchange any information and documents I have (or search
if needed) about classics coming from Italy.
CIAO!
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Riccardo Romagnoli,collector of:CLASSIC COMPUTERS,TELETYPE UNITS,PHONE AND
PHONECARDS I-47100 Forli'/Emilia-Romagna/Food Valley/ITALY
Pager:DTMF PHONES=+39/16888(hear msg.and BEEP then 5130274*YOUR TEL. NUMBER*
where*=asterisk key | for help visit http://www.tim.it/tldrin_eg/tlde03.html
TELEX:551132 CHEMIF I
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
| WoW! The more I hear about this thing the more I want one.
It's amazing
| that this system was so unknown in the states. It's like
discovering a
| whole new species.
Yep, I was obviously thrilled when I ran into my Spectravideo 328 in its
original box, for $5 at a local thrift...
Sorry Sam, didn't mean to gloat there.
Did I mention it was accompanied by the cassette drive in its original
box too?
Kai
somebody, i dont remember, put forth:
>Mayhaps, as a parallel to the 'Classic Computer Index", we need to develop
>> a 'Classic Computer Collectors Index' so that we know where others are
>> when things like this pop up so that we could have some local options.
>> Even if a person did not want the particular item, they might be able to
>> pick it up while arrangements were made to get it to someone who did want
>> it.
feel free to add me to the list. i'd be glad to go out and discover new finds
and give the opportunity for others to get it before the scrapyard does. i've
a truck and a 3 bedroom house, so storage is no problem! =D
david
Ok, I have taken the info I got from today, and put it up on the web.
Nothing fancy, and I haven't indexed it yet with any search engines. Take a
look at it and let me know what you think, or if you want to change your
information. The url is:
http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html
Any suggestions? Let me know and I will change it before we tell the rest
of the world about it.
Isaac Davis
idavis(a)comland.com
indavis(a)juno.com
My GOD! Has anyone seen this??? SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!
Sam
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here's the major info about the mini's now sitting under the Tucson
sun, soon to be landfill......
PDP 11/34: two machines - one with 3 lights, 2 toggle switches and a
rotary switch; one with a 4x5 keypad, rotary switch, and
little digital display (led's?)
PDP 11/35: full front panel with maybe 35 switches in a row across the
bottom (sort of like an Imsai)
Industrial 11 (in pieces) front panel looks something like 11/35, but in
red and blue (even more like Imsai)
RX02 pair of 8" disk drives in a box
several assorted hard drives, rack mount, desk-top 14" (VERY heavy!),
9672-type CDC disk drive in cabinet, etc
VAX 11/780 double-wide 5-1/2 foot high cabinet - can't get to the front
so don't know if there's anybody home there.....
Large rack mounted tape unit....about all I can tell is it's DEC
Rack box (sitting on the ground) RK05f DEC Pack
DECScope - looks sort of like a desk-top micro all-in-one
keyboard/monitor
several other DEC racks; many reels of tape; manuals; misc
also many terminal/monitors
I doubt this stuff will be around for more than a day or two.....
bill_h(a)azstarnet.com
--
Sam
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Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
Hey everyone. There has been a great response to the list of people willing
to go out of their way to pick up our beloved classics and save them from a
fate worse than death. I have added all of the people that have requested
it so far today, and did a little work on the page. I think it is ready for
the general public to know about. There wasn't a single complaint about any
part, so I think that's a thumbs up. I will be getting it listed in the
major search engines on the web, so maybe we can get some real results from
it soon. I am currently in the process of attempting to get a couple of
pdp8's, and am working on arrangements to store them for a fellow classic
computer list subscriber until he can pick them up. Exactly what this list
is all about. Comments are more than welcome, and let me know if you want to
be on the list.
http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html
Isaac Davis | Don't throw out that old computer,
idavis(a)comland.com | check out the Classic Computer Rescue List -
indavis(a)juno.com | http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html
Howdy:
Does anyone out there have the old Atari 800LX Atari Artist cartridge? It
is catalog # RX8053. Please let me know as I have been looking for it for
some time.
Thanks,
CORD COSLOR
Archive Software
//*=====================================================================++
|| Cord G. Coslor P.O. Box 308 - 1300 3rd St. Apt "M1" -- Peru, NE ||
|| (402) 872- 3272 coslor(a)bobcat.peru.edu 68421-0308 ||
|| Classic computer software and hardware collector ||
|| Autograph collector ||
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> > PS I've been having a little surf trying to find this info, and in
> my
> > travels came across a site that has a 2600 emulator for download on
> > various platforms! It's at
> > <http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ahornby/v2600.html>
>
> >You should also be able to find a site whereby you can order a
> joystick
> >from. There are probably a couple places in Europe.
>
> From my investigations, new joysticks for the 2600/etc are getting a
> might hard to come by. From what I can tell, no one is making them
> anymore. I do know that Video 61 has them.
>
> -Matt Pritchard
>
>
>
Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Kai Kaltenbach said:
>Actually the Tandy 600 was a 1989 concoction. It looks like an early
>Toshiba laptop, with flip-up narrow LCD display. It has Multiplan, a
>subset of MS Word, a built-in modem, 360K 3.5" drive, 80x16 display, and
>sold for $999. I passed up one of these at a swap meet a few weeks ago.
>
>Kai
<MODE GOOFY=ON>
Nee-ner-nee-ner-neeeee-ner!!!
I finally know something that Kai doesn't!!! ;^>
</MODE>
Sorry, but *my* T600 was built in September of 1985! AAMAF, I have a 1989
sale flyer yet that shows the T600 in "where-is-as-is" status, for the same
$$$ or cheaper than the T200. (one of which I also have!)
Processor was an 80c88 and standard memory was 32K (which was close to
useless, from what I hear. Mine came with 128K, so I wouldn't know.) which
was expanded with up to 2 banks of 96K.
Yes, the floppy was 360K, as it was single-sided with double-density.
Power: 4 internal D-sized nicads giving 11 hours use with no floppy
activity. Files are stored in RAM (like the 100/200/102/NEC 8201A/Olivetti
M10/etc.) and can be copied to floppy using the copy command.
More questions? You can ask me or the list, with the details below.
There is an FTP site for the Tandy 600 at:
ftp://ftp.northernway.net/Tandy600/
and there is a listserve dedicated to the Tandy 600. To find out more about
the listserve, send a message to:
m600-request(a)list.northernway.net
with the word "info" or "help" in the subject.
To subscribe, send a message to:
m600-request(a)list.northernway.net
with the word "sub" or "subscribe" in the subject.
To post a message to the listserve, send a message to:
m600(a)list.northernway.net
and it will automatically go to several people (always looking for more,
folks!) including a man named Larry Kollar, who wrote and maintains a Tandy
600 FAQ.
URL for the FAQ: http://www.nyx.net/~lekollar/t600/t600faq.html
Hope this helps!
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed,
Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should
zmerch(a)northernway.net | *not* be your first career choice.
Hi all...
I just picked up an Atari 2600 with 3 catridges but there's no power
supply or joysticks. I'm not complaining though, as it only cost 5
Pounds from from a charity shop here in London!
So, the predictable question is what are the specs
for the power supply? (i.e. voltage, current and polarity of what
appears to be a 3.5" jack).
Also can i use the joysticks from a ZX Spectrum or TI-99/4A with it?
If not, can anyone give me details of the pin-out so i can wire up my
own?
TIA...Nick.
PS I've been having a little surf trying to find this info, and in my
travels came across a site that has a 2600 emulator for download on
various platforms! It's at
<http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ahornby/v2600.html>
--
Nick Challoner nickc(a)ladyland.demon.co.uk
Aviation photographs at: http://www.ladyland.demon.co.uk
"Bother" said Pooh, as he deleted his root directory.
At 08:51 AM 6/12/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Oh yea, I should mention the last time this thing was fired up about
>5-7 years ago it had some sort of problem with it staying powered up
>or something. They where not able to get the data off their disks.
>Other then that I don't know anymore details. The original owners of
>this thing was Robert Mueler(sp?) Airport(ATC at its best).
>
>---
>
>So, anyone in the Austin, TX area want to grab this one either for their
>collection, or for holding while it seeks a home?
>
>-jim
>---
>jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
>The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
>Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
>
>
Jim,
I have already emailed Micah, and am waiting for a response. Here a
conincidence for you. My dad works for the FAA, at Robert Mueller as the
Radar Technician. If I get this, I will see if he knows about it. I will
let everyone know how it goes.
Isaac Davis
idavis(a)comland.com
indavis(a)juno.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 02:38:43 GMT
From: Micah Voiers <micah1(a)flash.net>
Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8
Subject: FS: pdp 8
I have what I think are 2 pdp 8(a I think) I see two omni hex
processor boards, 2 rko 5 drives( one has some rust on one side), two
case things with power supply, 4 or 5 memory boards a few controllers,
1 face plate. FREE, OBO.
The pdp is in Austin, I am in Ft Worth, Texas. I would rather not
haul this thing up here. I won't ship it cause that would seem like a
major pain in the neck., unless ya pay, a lot. Also got about 10
trs-80 model 3's. I would like to keep this for historical sake but
it is heavy and takes up a lot of space.
Let me know
micah1(a)flash.net
Oh yea, I should mention the last time this thing was fired up about
5-7 years ago it had some sort of problem with it staying powered up
or something. They where not able to get the data off their disks.
Other then that I don't know anymore details. The original owners of
this thing was Robert Mueler(sp?) Airport(ATC at its best).
---
So, anyone in the Austin, TX area want to grab this one either for their
collection, or for holding while it seeks a home?
-jim
---
jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
The joysticks, for the c64, atari2600, atari 400,800,1200 series of
computers are all identical. Any joystick that is rated for these machines
will work just fine. I'll have to double check, but im pretty positive the
power is 9vDC around 300mv, possibly up to 500mv, not sure.
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> From: Nick Challoner <nickc(a)ladyland.demon.co.uk>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Atari 2600 questions
> Date: Thursday, June 12, 1997 8:01 AM
>
> Hi all...
>
> I just picked up an Atari 2600 with 3 catridges but there's no power
> supply or joysticks. I'm not complaining though, as it only cost 5
> Pounds from from a charity shop here in London!
>
> So, the predictable question is what are the specs
> for the power supply? (i.e. voltage, current and polarity of what
> appears to be a 3.5" jack).
>
> Also can i use the joysticks from a ZX Spectrum or TI-99/4A with it?
> If not, can anyone give me details of the pin-out so i can wire up my
> own?
>
> TIA...Nick.
>
> PS I've been having a little surf trying to find this info, and in my
> travels came across a site that has a 2600 emulator for download on
> various platforms! It's at
> <http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ahornby/v2600.html>
>
> --
> Nick Challoner nickc(a)ladyland.demon.co.uk
> Aviation photographs at: http://www.ladyland.demon.co.uk
> "Bother" said Pooh, as he deleted his root directory.
I can see that we are going to inundate this list with our home locations.
I will go ahead and volunteer to keep the list, and put it up on my web
site. If you want to be added to this list, email me idavis(a)comland.com
with your name, city/area, and a way to contact you - email or phone. After
the list is compiled, I will put it on the web, and will be able to email it
to anyone involved. Maybe I can try and get some outside exposure with web
search engines to help people outside of this list to be able to contact us
before they take their "junk" to the landfill. Feel free to give me any
contact information you want. I will only include what you tell me to.
Isaac Davis
idavis(a)comland.com
indavis(a)juno.com
Hey!
I put an old 10 MB hard drive case on AuctionWeb last week. Nobody is bidding on
it so if it doesn't sell, it's free. It's just a white case with a fan and power
supply. A really nice guy wrote and offered the drive that goes in it for
shipping only (see bottom of message). Auction ends tomorrow-hurry!
Here's what you do, go to the auction link:
http://www2.ebay.com/aw/itemfast.cgi?item=dkq99203
Bid $1. If nobody outbids you, it's yours for shipping only. Just remind me if I
don't recognize your email address. Shipping should be less than $5. You could do
the whole thing for less than $10. Worth it? I dunno.
? By the way, there's an Imagewriter I that's only up to $3+shipping at:
http://www2.ebay.com/aw/itemfast.cgi?item=qpa201
? And a cool like new thermal printer for laptops (circa 1984) at:
http://www2.ebay.com/aw/itemfast.cgi?item=yrk8174
? And I have a few C-64's and 1541 drives that are dead. Free + shipping if
anyone's interested. Oh and a Okimate 10 printer that's laying around too.
*** The guy with the drive that goes in it is:
> Subject: tandy hd case
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 97 21:03:20 PDT
> From: "Roger LaPointe" <eldens(a)concentric.net>
> To: gmast(a)oboe.aix.calpoly.edu
>
>
> I've got a 10 meg hd (tandon) that came in one of the cases.
>
> if you can use it, you can have it for the actual ups costs. ($3 or $4 ???)
> it just sits on the shelf, and I hated to throw it away (along with all the
> Seagate ST-225's)
>
> thanx Roger
>
>
Hi all,
I'm looking for a power cable for my Cromemco System 3. It's kind of a
bizarre cable. The recessed male panel jack is a flattened oval, 1" by
1/2", with 3 conductors. The center ground pin is very slightly offset
>from the other two pins.
Any thoughts where I can get one of these?
thanks
Kai
I couldn't resist going into a favorite thrift store today, and boy what
a find I made. First there's the Tandy 1000EX. Cool, but definitely not
as cool as the Burroughs adding machine! I have no idea what year this
thing is from, but it's case is made of a steel frame with glass sides so
you can see the mechanisms inside. I don't know how much it's worth, but
I picked it up for $50. This thing is heavy (about 50-60lbs). I love
it! I'm going to make it the centerpiece of my in-home museum (someday).
Sam
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At 04:25 PM 6/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Somewhere in the back of my head I had the idea that a TDP-100
>was a Coco with added serial hardware included so that Radio
>Shack could sell it as a color video terminal. Does anyone
>else remember this, or am I completely out of my mind?
They did sell a "VideoTex" terminal that sure looked like a coco. Sold it
for use with CompuServe, (among others,) as I recall. Perhaps this is what
you're thinking of?
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
Hi Issac, thanks for volunteering to maintain the list! I think this is
a wonderful idea and one that will help us all.
Marvin Johnston
marvin(a)rain.org
(805) 6897-8881
Santa Barbara, CA
Primary Interest: Early Microcomputers from the 70's and associated
documentation.
Found one! Vetco here in Bellevue had a box of 'em... at the usurious
price of $9.50, but what can ya do?
At least I picked up some interesting 8-bit ISA cards for $1-$4 apiece,
namely:
- Silicon Valley ADP50 (IDE drives in PCs!)
- Kaypro NEC V20 accelerator/Z80 emulator card
- Kraft dual joystick adapter
- Ad Lib sound card
Kai
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> From: James Willing[SMTP:jimw@agora.rdrop.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 4:48 PM
> To: Kai Kaltenbach
> Cc: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: Power cable for Cromemco
>
> On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Kai Kaltenbach wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a power cable for my Cromemco System 3. It's kind
> of a
> > bizarre cable. The recessed male panel jack is a flattened oval, 1"
> by
> > 1/2", with 3 conductors. The center ground pin is very slightly
> offset
> > from the other two pins.
> >
> > Any thoughts where I can get one of these?
>
> Actually, not too odd at all. Don't know about currently (as I've not
> looked for a while) but these used to be quite common on office
> equipment.
>
> And... (if you did not see this coming) I think I have a spare or two
> around... (gotta turn over *all* of those rocks!)
>
> Bad ASCII art warning!
>
> /-------------\
> | O O |
> | O |
> \-------------/
>
> Looks something (nothing?) like this? eh?
>
> If you don't turn one up local, let me know and I'll try to find one
> to
> send along with the other stuff...
>
> -jim
> ---
> jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
> The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
> Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
>
