Is there a way to disable the M8190 console SLU so as to use another
serial in it's place? The bulkhead adapter for the SLU has been
cannabalized to fix another machine, and I want to get this one running.
I have the DLV-11J that was in my 11/23, I plan to use it.
Any ideas?
<> <Ever read, say, _Soul of a New Machine_?
<>
<> Good read, still have my copy!
<>
<Me too. But I've also got a hard-cover now!
I was given mine when it was first releassed and is hard cover.
<<This prompted me to dig up a Nov 81 copy of a mag called Datamation
<whose feature article was a history of the Route 128 companies and a
<companion piece "Rte128's new Wave Startups" which included Apollo,
<Stratus, SOLV-vation, and the 'revamped"Charles River Data Systems..
<The push was on to 32bit and Data General was offering it"s
<"brand-new" medium-priced supermini,the MV 6000 whose price was on
Therein lies a peice of the story. From 79 to recent I and friends worked
for companies involved in the 128 race. It's amazing how few are left and
how different some are.
< Another "cute" blurb, "CP/M-86 is the 16 bit version of the de facto
<industry standard microcomputer operating system, CPM. Once a user
<slips the 8-inch floppy containing CPM-86 into a (IBM) Displaywriter,
<an entirely new world of data processing will open up on the typist's
<desk." Sounds almost pornographic. ; ^ ))
Call that a snapshot in time before the PC explosion.
What I miss is hearing about Honeywell, RCA, Univac, Borroughs and Sperry
to name a few here in the USA where it started. There are machines that
were unique than and by standards now made by these companies. A example is
the RCA machines from what little I know were patterned after the TX series
of mit. I'd love to hear more.
Allison
On Sat, 08 Nov 1997 02:38:31 -0300, Mr. Richards made the following
statements:
> I have to tell you all about the sad fate of a beautiful machine.
> [...] It was an Intergraph 250 [...]
> I want to add to my misery by finding out exactly what it was, what
> it's speed was, what it was comparable to.
The brains of the machine were a MicroVAX II (KA630-AA). Disks
were primarily Fujitsu 8" Winchester drives controlled by an Inter-
graph proprietary controller called an "InterBus File Processor".
A SCSI tape drive was standard on the 250, also of Fujitsu manufacture
if I recall correctly.
A nice enough little box, but hobbled for the hobbyist community
by the proprietary controller for which no schematics of firmware
listings will _ever_ be available from Intergraph.
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I picked up an Osborne-1 last night, but no software. Is anyone willing to
cut me a copy of some 5 1/4" CP/M operating system and utility disks?
I'd gladly replace the disks supplied...
Thanks in advance,
-- Tony Eros
Internet Consultant - Financial/Pharma Services Practice
Digital Equipment Corporation
I wondering if anyone had any info on the Laser 128ex. I lugged an EGA
monitor to a friend of mine this week with the intentions of trading it for
a couple of hard drives, as I really need to clear some space (two bedroom
apartment, and I'm sleeping on a loveseat in the living room). Anyway, when
I got down there, I noticed the Laser on a shelf. I have never heard of this
machione before, so of course I had to have it right then and there :)
It resembles an Apple//c in layout; CPU, keyboard and 5 1/4" floppy in one
unit. As a bonus, the power supply I got with it also fits, my Apple//c. I
also noticed that on the bottom, there is a switch for LCD screen. The
similarities between this and the Apple makes me wonder if this wasn't some
sort of copy.
Does anyone have any ideas about this machine, specificaly I would like to
know how to break into the BASIC. On the Apple, I press CRTL and reset, but
this doesn't work on the Laser.
I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance...
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Tim Hotze wrote:
> Also, 88 (8088), 87 (487, 8087, etc.) and many other numbers. With macs,
> there's a whole slew of numbers that I don't want to get into.
Riccardo quoted Tony Duel as having written:
> >Which reminds me. Which word lengths have been used by (binary) computers?
> >Off the top of my head :
> >
> >4 (Intel 4004, etc)
> >8 (Far too many to list)
> >12 (PDP8, PDP12, etc)
> ..omissis...
> >What others?
>
> 9 (Texas 99/4, 990/10, TMS 9900)
> 86 (Intel Docet again)
I think some of you have misinterpreted Tony's question. He was asking
about word lengths. I do not believe that the Texas 99 series had a
word length of 9 bits (16 wasn't it?)
The Intel 8088 was 8 bits, the 8086 16; the 80x87, as I recall, are 80
bits internally (another one for your list, Tony, if coprocessors
count!)
I believe that there are some CPU chips now with 64-bit internal buses.
Any advance on 64?
At the other end, do the processors in the AMT DAP count as 1-bit
machines? Or are they bit-slices of a 32 bit machine? Or a 1024 bit
machine?
Philip.
I have to tell you all about the sad fate of a beautiful machine.
I was at an auction last Saturday, and immediatly started to drool over
this beautiful piece of equipment. It was an Intergraph 250 (No, I have
never seen one before) and it look to be in excellent shape. It was about 6
top 7 feet wide, by about 3 feet deep, and 5 feet high, with a beautiful
blue and white finish. On one side, behind a large black panel, was four
large, rack mounted drives; 2 were 557mb, and the other 2 were 337mb. I
believe the drives were old SCSI drives. On the other side, was a large reel
tape backup system, and below that, the guts of the machine behind another
black panel. Everything look to be there, and in working order.
Now for the sad part. It went for $2.50 (Converted to US, that is like
-$0.45 :) The person who bought it... some low, greasy guy with the name of
his autobody shop on his greasy ball cap (no, I didn't bid on it, I have no
place to put it) my friend asked him what he was going to do with it, and
you could tell by looking at the guy that he couldn't wait to try out a new
cutting saw on the thing, according to my friend (I was busy banging my head
agianst the wall :<
It is dead by now, and now I want to add to my misery by finding out
exactly what it was, what it's speed was, what it was comparable to. Anybody
out there know?
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I'm interested in the 386's.
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From: Zeus334(a)aol.com
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: STuff
Date: Saturday, November 08, 1997 4:36 AM
>have a bunch of wyse 60 terminals, a couple of 386's, an old printer
>and various boards etc. Anyone interested.
>"Janet Paganelli" <info(a)msnyc.org>
What's a wyse 60?
What kind of boards do you have?
Is it a dot matrix printer?
In a certain supply room, there are in storage some computers of interest to
me. There used to be some XTs and PCs, but they were given to a school. The
stuff that's still there:
A ton of printers, generally IBM dot-matrix
A ton of manuals and books, including manuals to Quattro-Pro, the manuals to
some of the IBM printers, etc. Also, books on C and pascal
A few cartons of floppies, with the original disks to DOS 3.3, and a bunch of
programs I have never heard of.
About 15 IBM network cards. I can't tell what they are, but they are brown
full- length eight bit things with round connectors on the back.
An IBM System/74, with three terminals.
I believe that the administration will part with all of these without much
difficulty. I could personally use the first 4 items. The System/74 is about
the size of a closet, and I doubt I would find much use for it (If only I had
room...)
I know nothing about it, and I would appreciate if you people would tell me
what the heck a System/74 is. It has a big floppy drive (14" or 8") built in
to the front panel, mounted on its side.....
>> I have at home a memory bank from a CDC Cyber two-hundred-and-something
>> (?) which is 18 bits wide. I had always assumed that this was 16 bits
>> plus two parity but it doesn't fit into 60 bits either way. (Memory
>> bank is huge quantities of 40ns and 45ns 64k x 1 static RAMs surface
>> mounted on both sides of numerous daughter boards. Each daughter board
>> is 64k x 18 and they stack four deep all over the "mother board" of the
>> bank.) I always meant to use this in something, but somehow I never got
>> around to it...
>
> That is perhaps from one of the Cyber 203/205/215 supercomputers. These
> were HUGE vector machines, from the same period (and a rival of) the later
> Cray-1s. They were 60 bit machines, so I am confused about the x18
> organization. Perhaps error checking was involved.
This one was thrown out by the Technical University of {better not say
where} in 1993. Not very old - date code on some of the memory chips is
1992.
My friend, a student there, whom I visited in August of that year, had
eight of these memory banks, eight megabytes each (64k x 2 bytes x four
boards deep x sixteen stacks per bank). I swapped him a Keithley 417k
electrometer (a very sensitive multimeter) for mine.
He also threw in a card from the CPU, which I think I've mentioned here
before. The technology is 100k series ECL so should have been faster
than Cray 1. (The Cray 1 in the {museum of same town} was 10k series.)
