Kip Crosby wrote:
>At 09:52 11/15/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>Came across an interesting find recently....a
>>Pertec-interface TBU that uses, of all things, a VHS cassette mechanism to
>>back up as much as 2 gigabytes to a normal T120 VHS tape.
>>
>> I'm just curious if anyone else has crossed paths with this unit. It's
>>called a 'Gigastore.'
>
>Such a device, maybe not this particular make, was the standard OEM backup
>for Alpha Micro minicomputers. Mid-eighties. Not madly reliable.
The backup unit an Alpha Micro sysadmin _i_ knew converted the data to
video to get it onto the tape; i.e., it wasn't a Pertec interface, but used
standard everyday VCRs.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
It seems that my initial post about a couple of hard drives and enclosures
looking for a home was partly in error. The fellow's just offering the
drives, and intends to keep the enclosures.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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>To: Bruce Lane <kyrrin2(a)wizards.net>
>From: Tom Ray <cyber(a)prismnet.com>
>Subject: Re: OLD hard drives and enclosure need RESCUE!
>
>actually, Bruce, what I was offering specifically was just the drives
>themselves, not the external SCSI cases. I plan on using those. I'll send
>the cables with the drives but there was nothing fancy about the enclosure.
>They don't even have a fan to keep them cool, just a powersource and the
>external SCSI connector. I'm still fairly new to SCSI so I am not sure what
>I do or don't need out of the case. Let me describe as best I can.
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Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272)
(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net)
http://www.wizards.net/technoid
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
>In a message dated 97-11-14 13:04:53 EST, you write:
>
><< I can supply original DOS disks for 3.31 >>
>
>I would most certainly appreciate it. The computer these would be used on
is
>actually a Visual Technologies Commuter--a colleague noted that although
this
>unit runs intel 8086, 8088, 80286, it can boot into DOS 6.22. I have yet
to
>find out if this is true or not; however, what can we work out so that I
may
>get those disks?
Even a PC (8088) will run DOS 6. E-mail me privately with your address, and
we'll work out details.
manney(a)nwohio.com
off topic, but speaking of JTS, egghead is/was selling JTS 1gig drives for
$99. i bought one, and works great! quiet, and has a 3 year warranty. all i
got was the drive in a box, but then again, that's all i wanted.
david
In a message dated 97-11-14 05:22:36 EST, mr hotze put forth:
> Well, it won't help you now, but a company called JTS Corporation has the
best
> HDDs I've seen in a LONG time. I was using a WD Caviar 2.0 GB, and it was
> LOUD!!! It also had a fairly good HDD Test Score: 2.6 by the Norton
> Utilities
> benchmarks. I ran the test with my NEW 2.0 GB JTS, which got a 4.0!!!
Also,
>
> it's about $20-$40 cheaper than the equivelent Caviar. The best part: It
> has a
> cover with rubber on the outside. I had it IN THE OPEN for about 3 weeks,
> and
> it still worked just fine. The cover protects it from static electrictity
> form
> jerks like me, and from shock, stuff like that.
>I've recently heard of someone who told me about an 8080 laptop from
>someone who has been into computers longer than I have. He said that
>there was a laptop... in the 1970's, that was smaller than the origional
>Compaq. It was soupossed to only have a little RAM, and it was used by
>journalists, who would connect with a modem an upload the files. Is
>this true? If so, what on earth ever happened to these? (Does this
>sound like something else... H/PC come to mind?
Journalists around here used the Radio Schlock thingie (Tandy 100?) Don't
know the processor, tho'.
>On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Tim Shoppa wrote:
>
>> Tim Shoppa | Internet: shoppa(a)triumf.ca
>> TRIUMF, Canada's National Meson Facility | Voice: 604-222-1047 loc 6446
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Hey Tim, what is a Meson Facility anyway?
>
Mesons are simply either pions, muons, or kasons!
That's all!
LeS
At 11:16 AM 97/11/15 -0500, you wrote:
>> > The most amazing thing is being in a real computer room (i.e. dozens
>> > of 14" drives) when the power suddenly goes *off*. The silence is
>> > astonishing.
>>
>> What would be even MORE amazing is when the power comes back ON a second
>> later, with all the power switches still on, and everything tries to spin
>> up at once...
>> Or is there some safeguard against that?
A lot of mainframe/mini drives have a configuration option called "spindle
delay" that allows for a settable delay between power on and spin up. One
sets the drives to spin up individually rather than all at once.
Kevin
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Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD
mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca
>On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, PG Manney wrote:
>
>> Our local NASA is selling off older PC and other stuff. I'm local, if
anyone
>> wants anything.
>>
>> Stuff is at
>>
>> http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/Logistics/sales.htm
>
>Lots of stuff I'd like to see preserved, however if I read the details on
>the site correctly the bidding closed yesterday (13-Nov.)
>
>DRAT!
...but look at the other one, under Plum Brook. It has some Zeniths, closing
on the 23rd, I think.
Hi Daniel:
I've copied the manual and will mail it today or Monday! Sorry for the delay,
Kevin
At 07:29 AM 97/11/15 -0600, you wrote:
>I was the guilty party.
>
>Daniel Seagraves
>106 West Forest Ave
>East Peoria, IL 61611
>
>I've lost addresses before, this is nothing new...
>
>
>
>
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Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD
mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca
I dunno...I dropped one off my desk (2 1/2 ft), and it survived fine.
I dropped a 1.2 GB HDD (WD, I think) BRAND NEW off my desk onto a carpet,
and it died (couldn't have been a ST-157, no-o-o-o.) Depends on how it
bounces, I guess.
Anyone wanna try this with a 9 gig, in the interests of science?
>Now.... just for fun, try to get a modern PC, drop it on your toe (A
>sacrifice for science) and then watch it break into DOZENS of piece. Chip
>out of socket, RAM out of socket, motherboard out of case, power supply out
>of case, HDD crashed, disk drive not in a working condition, CD-ROM drive's
>laser swears that there's no disk in. They don't make 'em like they used
>to!!!
>
>----------
>From: Jeff Beoletto <jbeolett(a)ssi.net>
>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Subject: Re: Classic Computer Rescue Squad
>Date: Saturday, November 08, 1997 6:28 PM
>
>
>
>On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Hotze wrote:
>>
>> > At 23:18 11/7/97 +0000, you wrote:
>> > >I am conviced that a lot of people (probably not on this list)
>wouldn't
>> > >know a well-designed or well-built computer if it was dropped on
>them...
>> >
>> > Naturally not, they'd be too busy limping around howling.
>> >
>>
>> I DID THAT! I DID THAT! I successfully managed to crush Jeff Beoletto's
>> (One of my friends) toes with
>> a PDP-11/44. We were trying to move it sideways. BTW, his foot healed
>up
>> quite well. And he wasn't limping around, he was curled up in a little
>> ball on the floor, cussing a blue streak :) A week ago we were moving
>the
>> RA81, and I almost did it again...
>>
>>
>>
> Seeing how it was me that Dan managed to drop it I can agree to
>the limping, and ironically enough it's the same foot that I had broken 3
>times in the month before he crushed it. And just yesterday hauling a pc
>down to our storagge office on the 5th floor I tripped and fell down the
>steps and have just re-broken that very same ankle. Computers are
>hazerdous to your health. =+)
>
>
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