On Saturday, October 09, 1999 5:59 PM, LordTyran [SMTP:a2k@one.net] wrote:
>
> On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Mike wrote:
>
> Anybody have a favorite? Why?
>
> - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
For most tasks, I prefer a PC running a terminal emulator.
Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
Is there a good place to find boards that plug into a 16bit ISA slot and
let you have another 8 or so slots? (without building your own)
I would think there'd be a fair number of these floating around now that
ISA is nearly dead in the mainstream, but aparently not. The
cheapest I saw one new for $496. Bit ridiculous, imho.
All I need is both end-boards (host end and backplane end) and a
backplane. (I certainly don't need anymore cases...)
Can anyone help?
af
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"Something in my systray is blinking wildly." -- DS
Ooops, was working on my SparcII and realized that I had forgotten that
I'd done a setenv input-device ttyb and setenv output-device ttyb in the
kernel... cable's fine 8-).
Now all I have to do is get the NIC on my other linux box to work and I
can use it as an xterm...
Kevin
Today was a good day, as it was the Fall CP/M Users Group Swap Meet.
I managed to get a PDP-11/23+ in a nice BA23 chassis, though not sure that
counts since I'd arranged to pick the system up there, as I don't have a
lot of time at the moment. He wanted to keep the 1Mb RAM board, which
wasn't a big deal for me, especially as it still has 2 128k RAM boards.
More importantly it's got the RL02 controller I needed.
I stocked up on small SCSI Hard drives, I'm no longer worried about not
having enough drives in the 100-200MB range :^)
Got a HP LaserJet ethernet card, but it turns out I got my model mixed up
with another :^(
BUT the find of the day was the AIM 65, still in the original box and
packing material with what I assume is all the paperwork/papers. The only
downside is the plastic over the LED display is cracked. It's got the
printer on the board, and a roll of paper even. Now I just need to find
out what an AIM 65 is!
Zane
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<inner metal chassis, with the two plastic end pieces :^) Better yet, it's
<the first Q-Bus chassis I've gotten with a PDP badge instead of a VAX badg
<on it.
Must never have gotten any of the BA11 boxes with 11/03 or 11/23 on them.
I have a nice BA23 that was MicroPDP-11 then modified to MicrovaxII.
Allison
--- Aaron Christopher Finney <af-list(a)lafleur.wfi-inc.com> wrote:
> Agreed...a cheap laptop makes a fantastic flexible and portable terminal.
> I don't have a working HP terminal, so I use a 486 AST laptop I got for
> free with QCTerm to work on my 3K...
I bought a Zenith XT laptop (dual pop-up 720K drives) at a local used place
for $15 (no battery) for just this purpose. I use Kermit which is why I
want to lay my hands on a Xircom Pocket Adapter III (low power, runs off
of a parasitic power cable, not a wall wart) so I can turn it into a telnet-
capable terminal, too.
-ethan
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-----Original Message-----
From: emanuel stiebler <emu(a)ecubics.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:19 AM
Subject: DS1386-8-150, DS1287A
>Hi all,
>
>anybody knows a source for this chips ?
>
>(are dallas timekeeping chips)
>
>thanks,
>emanuel
>
>
>
At 03:01 PM 10/09/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>Anybody have a favorite? Why?
About 20 years ago, my favorite was an HP264X.
For some reason, I really liked the feel of the keyboard then. Hate it now.
For a basic terminal, its the HP2392A.
Its boxlike shape lets you stack stuff on top of it, or put a small printer
(like a thinkjet) on it. Optional serial (and IIRC parallel)
printer port modules.
For general use, I'll stick with a PC and a decent terminal emulator package.
I still use my old CompuAdd 286 and DOS mode HPTERM program as a console
for the 3000/9X7 under my desk.
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From: "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)smarty.smart.net>
> ... slight problem with Seagate's web page: their documentation for
> older drives, such as the jumper info., is somewhat undecipherable for
> someone using UNIX...
When you get to a page like
"http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/st41200n.shtml", try
following the link which says "A version of this specification with the
linedraw characters approximated by text is available by clicking here."
It takes you to a page like
"http://www.seagate.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/scsi/st41200n.txt", which
looks fine on my Netscape Navigator 3.03. Of course I'm running VMS,
not UNIX, but I suspect that that matters little.
For example:
ST-41200N (94601-1200) Wren 7 SCSI and SCSI-2
+-- Some 16-pin configurations may not have these pins.
|
| +-----------------------------+ /-4-3-2-1-\
-----P-W-A-----+--+:::SCSI:Cable:::::::::::::::1+-+ 0 0 0 0 +--
+-+ | +-----------------------------+ +-5-G-G-12+
|o|o o o o o o(o)o +--------1+--------1+--------1 Power
+o+o o o o o o(o)o +--------++--------++--------+
+-+ 4 2 1 M P | | Terminator Resistor SIPS
| --+-- | | | |
| | | | | +- Reserved
| | | | +--- Motor Start Delay ( 16 sec * ID)
| | | +----- Parity option enable
| | +------- Motor Start option enable
| +----------- Drive ID's, ID 0 (none) if only SCSI device
+----------------+ Terminator power from Drive (vertical)
+ Terminator power from Bus (lower horizontal)
...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"Mike" <dogas(a)leading.net> wrote:
> Anybody have a favorite? Why?
Several.
If I want a small, light VT100-like terminal that's easy to move and
doesn't take up a lot of space, I use an HP200LX palmtop PC. Why?
Because it's there. I use it heavily anyway, and the serial cable and
adapter bits are usually not too far away if I'm at home or the office.
If I want something with HP terminal emulation or something closer to
a real keyboard, I use one of a couple HP Portable Plus systems that I
have around with WRQ's Reflection in ROM. Guess I could find a copy
of Reflection for DOS and install it on the 200LX but I haven't.
If I want something that looks like a terminal, the HP 2382 is
nice because it's small and light.
If I wanted a printing terminal, I'd probably pull one of the newer,
smaller TI Silent 700s out of storage and use that. Or I have a 3M
Whisper Writer stashed somewhere in the car right now. Just drop in a
roll of FAX paper and I'd be ready to go, and again they're fairly
small and light. Of course FAX paper isn't really good as a long-term
storage medium, you need a plain-paper printer for that.
For just plain neat-o keen-o terminals, there are the HP 264X series
of terminals. They don't emulate DEC VT-anything but who cares, if
you have a 2645 or 2648 (maybe a 2641 too, not sure) there's an 8080
in there and there are games that can be downloaded to run in the
terminal. It's also amusing to note that the display memory isn't
fixed as a number of rows of characters -- the displayed text is
actually stored as a linked list of 16?-byte chunks, so you can have
lots of short lines or fewer long ones, and it's easy to scroll the
display window through memory.
-Frank McConnell
