26 Oct
1998
26 Oct
'98
1:55 p.m.
process. (except what you are willing to dumpster dive
for) Not that I
would ever do such a thing.:) ( I have made several thousand from such dives
over the years)
So have I - several of the RSX-11 DECUS tapes that are now available
from
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11
were rescued from TRIUMF when they dumped all the 9-tracks they had
in the Chem Annex.
Hint for those who haven't done much dumpster diving: back your car
or truck up to the dumpster, climb into the dumpster via your rear
bumper, and start tossing :-).
Tim.
26 Oct
26 Oct
7:03 p.m.
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com wrote:
Hint for those who haven't done much dumpster
diving: back your car
or truck up to the dumpster, climb into the dumpster via your rear
bumper, and start tossing :-).
I did this at my office just before they closed it down and couldn't
believe what they tossed. The deeper I dug the more expensive the stuff I
started pulling out. But I ended up getting a visit from my friendly
neighborhood police. It seems some local concerned citizen saw me pulling
out all sorts of computer gear from the trash and decided something evil
was being perpetrated. Go figure.
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11 p.m.
Sam wrote:
But I ended up getting a visit from my friendly
neighborhood police. It seems some local concerned citizen saw me pulling
out all sorts of computer gear from the trash and decided something evil
was being perpetrated. Go figure.
What did the police have to say about it?
At what point does the contents of the dumpster become publicly available?
I imagine that this might be a different point than the one at which police
are aloud to search for evidence, but IANAL.
Eric
27 Oct
27 Oct
3:28 a.m.
New subject: Dumpster Diving was Re: Washington DC area vintage sources (was RE:ebay)
At 10:00 AM 10/27/98 -0000, you wrote:
Sam wrote:
I know a couple of guys that dumpster dive nearly every night. The
police have pulled them over numerous times. They usually check them and
their stuff then let them go. Sometimes they tell them to leave but that's
all. They've never been taken in or arrested. FWIW There was a court case
(supreme court?) some years ago that involved the police searching trash
cans for evidence. The court ruled that stuff thrown into the trash and and
placed on the public right of way (street) for pickup was publicly
available and no longer private property. Of course, many commercial trash
dumpsters are still located on company property so this may have no bearing.
Joe
But I ended up getting a visit from my friendly
neighborhood police. It seems some local concerned citizen saw me pulling
out all sorts of computer gear from the trash and decided something evil
was being perpetrated. Go figure.
What did the police have to say about it?
At what point does the contents of the dumpster become publicly available?
I imagine that this might be a different point than the one at which police
are aloud to search for evidence, but IANAL.
6:09 a.m.
On 27 Oct 1998, Eric Smith wrote:
Sam wrote:
They were cool enough. By that time I was up in my office getting a few
items out of my desk (it was about 6pm). They came up and knocked on the
door. I just showed them my ID and a business card and they took a
report. A pain in the ass.
But I ended up getting a visit from my friendly
neighborhood police. It seems some local concerned citizen saw me pulling
out all sorts of computer gear from the trash and decided something evil
was being perpetrated. Go figure.
What did the police have to say about it? At what point does the contents of the dumpster become
publicly available?
I imagine that this might be a different point than the one at which police
are aloud to search for evidence, but IANAL.
There's been a court decision that has emphatically stated that once it
goes in the garbage, and the garbage is publicly accessible (ie. you can't
go onto private property) its up for grabs. Local laws may differ, so its
always worth knowing what the laws are in your area before you decide to
go scrounging in the trash.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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7:45 a.m.
Sam Ismail wrote:
There's been a court decision that has
emphatically stated that once it
goes in the garbage, and the garbage is publicly accessible (ie. you can't
go onto private property) its up for grabs. Local laws may differ, so its
always worth knowing what the laws are in your area before you decide to
go scrounging in the trash.
Yah. Definitely. Especially in municipalities with mandatory
recycling near areas where recycables can bring a decent price.
(The Bay Area was lousy with them last time I lived there).
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