18 Oct
2012
18 Oct
'12
10:41 a.m.
I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
Francois
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18 Oct
18 Oct
1:34 p.m.
On 18 October 2012 15:41, Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com> wrote:
I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently
not. There are now
3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
I was going to guess Apple II or that era from the BASIC prompt of ]
but not given the later hints...
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1:54 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
On 18 October 2012 15:41, Francois Dion
<francois.dion at gmail.com> wrote:
I don't recognize the patch panel in #3, but the "CALL -151" and the
color structure in #2 are a dead giveaway as to the architecture. Was
there some embedded or appliance device with a particular machine at
its core? Something used in a classroom or lab setting perhaps?
-ethan
I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but
apparently not. There are now
3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
I was going to guess Apple II or that era from the BASIC prompt of ]
but not given the later hints... 
2:04 p.m.
On Oct 18, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 18 October 2012 15:41, Francois Dion
<francois.dion at gmail.com> wrote:
I'd count Apple II out because none of the Apple IIs which had the
ability to use lowercase required a manual reset at startup.
However, call -151 to get to the monitor is definitely an Apple II
BASIC thing.
- Dave
I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but
apparently not. There are now
3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
I was going to guess Apple II or that era from the BASIC prompt of ]
but not given the later hints... 
2:04 p.m.
Yeah clue 2 with call -151 from basic to a microassembler makes it an apple II to me
though I don't know what edition or version of a 2 if that's necessary.
Are you emulating it on a raspberry pi?
-----Original Message-----
From: Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com>
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Subject: It lives!
I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
Francois
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19 Oct
19 Oct
9:02 p.m.
The first hint could have been done on the Raspberry Pi. I've compiled
AdvanceMESS for the ARM with hard float support. Took many many hours,
even with the Pi overclocked at 1GHz. Runs well anyway at emulating
the Apple //e.
Francois
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:04 PM, <barythrin at gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah clue 2 with call -151 from basic to a
microassembler makes it an apple II to me though I don't know what edition or version
of a 2 if that's necessary.
Are you emulating it on a raspberry pi?
-----Original Message-----
From: Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com>
Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.orgDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:41:22
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: It lives!
I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
Francois
--
solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
7:04 a.m.
The fourth clue is up. Some of the innards.
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-4.html
Francois
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solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com> wrote:
I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently
not. There are now
3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
Francois
--
solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
8:45 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 07:04:42AM -0400, Francois Dion wrote:
The fourth clue is up. Some of the innards.
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-4.html
Oh my.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac00239a855
http://tinyurl.com/9zela85
http://search.informit.com.au/documentSummary;dn=482239336346639;res=IELENG
Francois
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
> 3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
>
>
> Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
>
> http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
>
> I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
> Just a simple screenshot to start with...
>
> Francois
>
>
> --
>
> solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
Diane
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8:53 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 07:04:42AM -0400, Francois Dion wrote:
The fourth clue is up. Some of the innards.
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-4.html
http://www.macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html
I know, it's not the one. However, I am finding it interesting just
how many Apple ]['s were grafted into gear.
Francois
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
> 3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
>
>
> Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
>
> http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
>
> I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
> Just a simple screenshot to start with...
>
> Francois
>
>
> --
>
> solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
--
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Nowadays tar can compress using yesterdays latest technologies!
8:49 p.m.
You were on the right track, as far as something for the educational
market. Bell & Howell actually licensed the board from Apple
(authorized). They apparently sold over 10,000 of these. While CES
either got bare boards from Franklin, or they converted full machines.
Serial numbers match on power supply and motherboard.
Francois
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Diane Bruce <db at db.net> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 07:04:42AM -0400, Francois
Dion wrote:
The fourth clue is up. Some of the innards.
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-4.html
http://www.macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html
I know, it's not the one. However, I am finding it interesting just
how many Apple ]['s were grafted into gear.
Francois
--
solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
> 3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
>
>
> Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
>
> http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
>
> I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
> Just a simple screenshot to start with...
>
> Francois
>
>
> --
>
> solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
--
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Nowadays tar can compress using yesterdays latest technologies! 
11:02 a.m.
On 10/19/2012 4:04 AM, Francois Dion wrote:
The fourth clue is up. Some of the innards.
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-4.html
Francois
ED LAB microcomputer training systems with a Franklin motherboard and
video card.
Bob
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
> 3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
>
>
> Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
>
> http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
>
> I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
> Just a simple screenshot to start with...
>
> Francois
>
>
> --
>
> solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
11:19 a.m.
On Oct 19, 2012 8:05 AM, "Bob Rosenbloom" <bobalan at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
ED LAB microcomputer training systems with a Franklin motherboard and
video card.
Bob
Oh, this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200832204275
8:43 p.m.
Wow, another one in the wild. They did make several hundreds of them
(I'm guessing - I tried to contact CES but I think they closed shop),
so that is not super unusual, but I had never seen another one before.
Did somebody on this list buy that one?
The ebay seller did something bad on that one though, from a
historical perspective, he removed the obfuscation that CES had put on
the board (hiding with labels, paint etc). CES had even cut with a
blade the Franklin labels, but left the serial numbers. There was no
need to do that, the moment I opened mine I saw right away it was an
ACE 1000 (the video modulator board is pretty obvious Ace 1000 if
you've ever seen one in person).
Regarding the ebay listing, it mentions something unusual about the
power plug, but on the last image, that's a regular recessed Hubell,
just like mine.
Francois
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 19, 2012 8:05 AM, "Bob Rosenbloom"
<bobalan at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
ED LAB microcomputer training systems with a Franklin motherboard and
video card.
Bob
Oh, this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200832204275
8:28 p.m.
You have to tell me how you figured it out from the 4th clue. Do you
own one, or did you repair one in the past?
CES Industries is the brand, in case anybody was wondering. LC (on
this list? posted and identified correctly the motherboard. Not just
any Franklin board, but one from a Franklin ACE 1000. The 4th clue
made that very obvious.
Francois
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Bob Rosenbloom <bobalan at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 10/19/2012 4:04 AM, Francois Dion wrote:
The fourth clue is up. Some of the innards.
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-4.html
Francois
ED LAB microcomputer training systems with a Franklin motherboard and video
card.
Bob
--
solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Francois Dion <francois.dion at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
> 3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
>
>
> Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
>
> http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
>
> I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
> Just a simple screenshot to start with...
>
> Francois
>
>
> --
>
> solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
8:49 p.m.
On 10/19/2012 5:28 PM, Francois Dion wrote:
You have to tell me how you figured it out from the
4th clue. Do you
own one, or did you repair one in the past?
CES Industries is the brand, in case anybody was wondering. LC (on
this list? posted and identified correctly the motherboard. Not just
any Franklin board, but one from a Franklin ACE 1000. The 4th clue
made that very obvious.
Francois
I've had them in the past. The banana jacks gave it away. I still have
many of their analog and digital trainers,
including one based on the Intel 8085.
Bob
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Bob Rosenbloom <bobalan at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 4:04 AM, Francois Dion wrote:
>> The fourth clue is up. Some of the innards.
>>
>> http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-4.html
>>
>> Francois
>>
> ED LAB microcomputer training systems with a Franklin motherboard and video
> card.
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>> --
>>
>> solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Francois Dion <francois.dion at
gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I thought I had sent this to cctalk, but apparently not. There are now
>>> 3 clues up, because I posted about it on tuesday, one hint a day.
>>>
>>>
>>> Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
>>>
>>> http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
>>>
>>> I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
>>> Just a simple screenshot to start with...
>>>
>>> Francois
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> solarisdesktop.blogspot.com - raspberry-python.blogspot.com
>
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