30 Dec
2011
30 Dec
'11
7:48 a.m.
A friend of mine who was a software engineer at Digital Equipment
Corporation gave me a console panel for a System/360 model 65 that they had
in their office (the console panel, not the system).
I am restoring the console panel, and I'm creating an interface to a PC to
make all the lights and switches work as originally intended. I'm keeping a
blog of my progress at <http://ibm360-console.blogspot.com>
http://ibm360-console.blogspot.com.
I'm now looking for field engineering documentation (hardcopy or scans/pdfs)
in order to make the emulation as faithful as possible to the original.
These are some of the document titles I'm looking for:
System/360 Model 65, 2065 Processing Unit, Field Engineering Maintenance
Manual
System/360 Model 65, 2065 Processing Unit, Field Engineering Diagrams Manual
System/360 Model 65 Field Engineering Manual of Instruction
System/360 Model 65 Field Engineering Theory of Operation Manual
System/360 Model 65 CPU and Channels Training, Field Engineering Education
Supplementary Course Material
The same material for the model 60, 62 or 67 instead of the 65 would help
too, given the similarities between these machines.
One thing in particular that I'm looking for that would help a lot is a data
flow diagram showing the register and bus names. Another thing that would be
very useful is a listing of the BCROS microcode.
The functional characteristics manual (which is available on Bitsavers)
doesn't offer the level of detail I'd like.
Cheers,
Camiel
30 Dec
30 Dec
10:53 a.m.
On 30 December 2011 15:48, Camiel Vanderhoeven <iamcamiel at gmail.com> wrote:
A friend of mine who was a software engineer at
Digital Equipment
Corporation gave me a console panel for a System/360 model 65 that they had
in their office (the console panel, not the system).
I am restoring the console panel, and I'm creating an interface to a PC to
make all the lights and switches work as originally intended. I'm keeping a
blog of my progress at ?<http://ibm360-console.blogspot.com>
http://ibm360-console.blogspot.com.
I'm now looking for field engineering documentation (hardcopy or scans/pdfs)
in order to make the emulation as faithful as possible to the original.
These are some of the document titles I'm looking for:
System/360 Model 65, 2065 Processing Unit, Field Engineering Maintenance
Manual
System/360 Model 65, 2065 Processing Unit, Field Engineering Diagrams Manual
System/360 Model 65 Field Engineering Manual of Instruction
System/360 Model 65 Field Engineering Theory of Operation Manual
System/360 Model 65 CPU and Channels Training, Field Engineering Education
Supplementary Course Material
The same material for the model 60, 62 or 67 instead of the 65 would help
too, given the similarities between these machines.
One thing in particular that I'm looking for that would help a lot is a data
flow diagram showing the register and bus names. Another thing that would be
very useful is a listing of the BCROS microcode.
The functional characteristics manual (which is available on Bitsavers)
doesn't offer the level of detail I'd like.
Wow! That is quite some project - and lavishly documented, as well.
Good work so far and good luck with it!
You should talk to Lawrence Wilkinson (ljw-cctech at ljw.me.uk) who is
building an FPGA emulation of an early S/360 - a model 30, I think.
Perhaps once he has that working, you could cooperate on a Model 65
version and interface actual hardware to your control panel! :?)
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3:33 p.m.
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 18:53 +0000, Liam Proven wrote:
On 30 December 2011 15:48, Camiel Vanderhoeven
<iamcamiel at gmail.com> wrote:
(Thanks Liam)
Well done for getting this far!
I was lucky to get microcode listings for the /30, and the internal
dataflow is documented in the manuals available on BitSavers.
It's one of these things where you have to decide how faithful you want
your re-creation to be. Are you going to attempt to model the
multi-function lights, so you can flip the rollers around? Do you want
an entire CPU hiding behind that panel, or just something to flicker the
lights appropriately? Some of the lights would be for the channels -
are you going to model those, and if so, what about the peripherals?
And so on....!
Another possible source of info:
http://www.glennsmuseum.com/ibm/ibm.html
[Coincidentally, I have been doing some work on my emulator today, and
have got the initialise-storage-from-platform-flash working. That,
together with using 64k external RAM rather than the FPGA's internal
RAM, makes it a bit more useful as it is now possible to build FPGA
images containing an initial RAM image without recompiling all the
VHDL.]
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk
The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
A friend of mine who was a software engineer at
Digital Equipment
Corporation gave me a console panel for a System/360 model 65 that they had
in their office (the console panel, not the system).
I am restoring the console panel, and I'm creating an interface to a PC to
make all the lights and switches work as originally intended. I'm keeping a
blog of my progress at <http://ibm360-console.blogspot.com>
http://ibm360-console.blogspot.com.
<snip>
One thing in particular that I'm looking for
that would help a lot is a data
flow diagram showing the register and bus names. Another thing that would be
very useful is a listing of the BCROS microcode.
The functional characteristics manual (which is available on Bitsavers)
doesn't offer the level of detail I'd like.
Wow! That is quite some project - and lavishly documented, as well.
Good work so far and good luck with it!
You should talk to Lawrence Wilkinson (ljw-cctech at ljw.me.uk) who is
building an FPGA emulation of an early S/360 - a model 30, I think.
Perhaps once he has that working, you could cooperate on a Model 65
version and interface actual hardware to your control panel! :?)
31 Dec
31 Dec
10:22 a.m.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Lawrence Wilkinson
<ljw-cctech at ljw.me.uk> wrote:
I was lucky to get microcode listings for the /30, and
the internal
dataflow is documented in the manuals available on BitSavers.
It's one of these things where you have to decide how faithful you want
your re-creation to be. ?Are you going to attempt to model the
multi-function lights, so you can flip the rollers around? ?Do you want
an entire CPU hiding behind that panel, or just something to flicker the
lights appropriately? ?Some of the lights would be for the channels -
are you going to model those, and if so, what about the peripherals?
And so on....!
Hi Liam, Lawrence,
Thanks for the encouragements. It seems to me that you've come quite a
way with the FPGA implementation. I've taken the liberty of posting a
link to it on my blog.
I'd like the implementation to be as faithful as I can, but without
the model 65 specific info, I can only make it faithful to the 360
architecture. I definitely want to be able to flip the rollers around
to look at different registers. I'm hoping to get access to ROS (BCROS
in the case of the '65) listings, together with the data flow diagrams
that's probably enough to figure things out (CPU wise, channels are
step 2). If not the listings, then some scans or photographs of each
plane of BCROS should do the trick too. Of course, the easiest to
decipher would be to get access to the whole set of field docs
(maintenance and diagrams manual) and the listings (annotated, while
we're on the subject of what would make life easier).
I am planning to do everything in software (hence the USB interface to
control the lamps and switches). I think my approach would be to take
a working emulator (Hercules) and replace it's cpu implementation with
a new one that matches the model 65's microarchitecture. That should
make it possible to execute instructions one ROS-step at a time. If I
can find the docs, I can also replace the channel implementation in
Hercules. I could hook up a serial terminal as the console ( I don't
have a 2260, and I'm not sure if my wife'd appreciate it if I spent
the next few weeks worth of evenings in my attic creating an interface
for it). For the visibility of tapes, disks, printers and such, I
guess an LCD panel showing some graphics wil have to do.
Incdentally, I've just completed the hardware part of the project;
I've put the new electronics kit together, mounted it inside the panel
and hooked it up to the pc; the hardware bit works perfectly. Need to
update the blog.
Cheers,
Camiel
P.S. I'll make sure to check the museum site you mentioned.
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