26 May
2019
26 May
'19
9:09 p.m.
I've been doing more work on my 9000/350 now that I have actual space to
do work on it in. Although the 10b2 is flaky, I can usually coax it to work.
However, the damn thing won't query DNS even though I have a populated
/etc/resolv.conf. It can ping the name server, and if the name server's
name is in /etc/hosts it will resolve it (and even telnet to it), but it
won't talk to it for anything else.
I'm not as adept at HP/UX before 10.20 (my first experience with the OS),
but I understand 8.0 "fails over" to /etc/hosts if it has some issues with
DNS. Fine, but how can I get it to switch *back*? There's no /etc/nsswitch.conf
and I don't think this version supports it anyway.
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26 May
26 May
9:52 p.m.
On 5/26/19 10:09 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
However, the damn thing won't query DNS even
though I have a populated
/etc/resolv.conf. It can ping the name server, and if the name server's
name is in /etc/hosts it will resolve it (and even telnet to it),
but it won't talk to it for anything else.
I'm not as adept at HP/UX before 10.20 (my first experience with the
OS), but I understand 8.0 "fails over" to /etc/hosts if it has some
issues with DNS. Fine, but how can I get it to switch *back*? There's
no /etc/nsswitch.conf and I don't think this version supports it
anyway.
At the risk of showing my ignorance, how much has DNS changed since
HP-UX 8 was using DNS?
Have you sniffed the wire to see if it's sending DNS queries and waiting
for them to fail?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
9:57 p.m.
Before HP-UX 10.10, you could only use nsswitch.conf to configure the
order of resolution for the hosts source. From 10.10 on, you can also
use nsswitch.conf to configure resolution order for the services,
networks, protocols, rpc, and netgroup sources. hosts: dns
[NOTFOUND=return] nis [NOTFOUND=return] files"
On 5/26/19 11:09 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
I've been doing more work on my 9000/350 now that
I have actual space to
do work on it in. Although the 10b2 is flaky, I can usually coax it to work.
However, the damn thing won't query DNS even though I have a populated
/etc/resolv.conf. It can ping the name server, and if the name server's
name is in /etc/hosts it will resolve it (and even telnet to it), but it
won't talk to it for anything else.
I'm not as adept at HP/UX before 10.20 (my first experience with the OS),
but I understand 8.0 "fails over" to /etc/hosts if it has some issues with
DNS. Fine, but how can I get it to switch *back*? There's no /etc/nsswitch.conf
and I don't think this version supports it anyway.
10:25 p.m.
However, the
damn thing won't query DNS even though I have a populated
/etc/resolv.conf. It can ping the name server, and if the name server's
name is in /etc/hosts it will resolve it (and even telnet to it),
but it won't talk to it for anything else.
I'm not as adept at HP/UX before 10.20 (my first experience with the
OS), but I understand 8.0 "fails over" to /etc/hosts if it has some
issues with DNS. Fine, but how can I get it to switch *back*? There's
no /etc/nsswitch.conf and I don't think this version supports it
anyway.
At the risk of showing my ignorance, how much has DNS changed since
HP-UX 8 was using DNS? Have you sniffed the wire to see if it's sending
DNS queries and waiting
for them to fail?
That's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure when to do this. By the time
I actually get a root prompt, nslookup says it's already checking hosts
and refuses to do otherwise.
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------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com
-- The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. -----
10:31 p.m.
I'm not as
adept at HP/UX before 10.20 (my first experience with the OS),
but I understand 8.0 "fails over" to /etc/hosts if it has some issues with
DNS. Fine, but how can I get it to switch *back*? There's no
/etc/nsswitch.conf and I don't think this version supports it anyway.
From https://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/dns/ch06_04.htm
Before HP-UX 10.10, you could only use nsswitch.conf to configure the
order of resolution for the hosts source. From 10.10 on, you can also
use nsswitch.conf to configure resolution order for the services,
networks, protocols, rpc, and netgroup sources. hosts: dns
[NOTFOUND=return] nis [NOTFOUND=return] files" 
10:46 p.m.
On May 26, 2019, at 21:09, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
I've been doing more work on my 9000/350 now that
I have actual space to
do work on it in. Although the 10b2 is flaky, I can usually coax it to work.
However, the damn thing won't query DNS even though I have a populated
/etc/resolv.conf. It can ping the name server, and if the name server's
name is in /etc/hosts it will resolve it (and even telnet to it), but it
won't talk to it for anything else.
I read this far and thought "someone put nameserver host names in resolv.conf".
-Frank McConnell
11:09 p.m.
On 5/27/19 12:31 AM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
Appreciated, but from the same
resource,
"HP-UX 10.00 introduced Solaris's nsswitch.conf functionality"
so this won't apply to HP/UX 8. It was available for in 9.x, but not at first
first release.? It was
introduced through patches.
I don't know if 8.x received the same/similar patches.
I'm not as adept at HP/UX before 10.20 (my first
experience with the OS),
but I understand 8.0 "fails over" to /etc/hosts if it has some issues with
DNS. Fine, but how can I get it to switch *back*? There's no
/etc/nsswitch.conf and I don't think this version supports it anyway.
From
https://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/dns/ch06_04.htm
Before HP-UX 10.10, you could only use nsswitch.conf to configure the
order of resolution for the hosts source. From 10.10 on, you can also
use nsswitch.conf to configure resolution order for the services,
networks, protocols, rpc, and netgroup sources. hosts: dns
[NOTFOUND=return] nis [NOTFOUND=return] files" 
27 May
27 May
2:05 a.m.
s?n 2019-05-26 klockan 21:09 -0700 skrev Cameron Kaiser via cctalk:
I've been doing more work on my 9000/350 now that
I have actual space
to
do work on it in. Although the 10b2 is flaky, I can usually coax it
to work.
HPUX 8 has smit, doesn't it ?
I did some works with HPUX almost 30 years ago but only used smit....
2:06 a.m.
s?n 2019-05-26 klockan 21:09 -0700 skrev Cameron Kaiser via cctalk:
I've been doing more work on my 9000/350 now that
I have actual space
to
do work on it in. Although the 10b2 is flaky, I can usually coax it
to work.
However, the damn thing won't query DNS even though I have a
populated
/etc/resolv.conf. It can ping the name server, and if the name
server's
name is in /etc/hosts it will resolve it (and even telnet to it), but
it
won't talk to it for anything else.
I'm not as adept at HP/UX before 10.20 (my first experience with the
OS),
but I understand 8.0 "fails over" to /etc/hosts if it has some issues
with
DNS. Fine, but how can I get it to switch *back*? There's no
/etc/nsswitch.conf
and I don't think this version supports it anyway.
look for sam(8) i believe.
9:27 a.m.
On 5/26/19 11:25 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
Irrelevant here, because it's a BIND 4 server on
the other end too
(on purpose since I have other older systems that need it). HP/UX 8
is also BIND 4.
ACK
That's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure
when to do this. By the
time I actually get a root prompt, nslookup says it's already checking
hosts and refuses to do otherwise.
I have no idea what sort of sniffers exist(ed) for HP-UX. But based on
timing, it sounds like you need something off box.
I keep an old hub around just for things like this. Machine in
question, uplink, and the sniffer. Then I start tcpdump or wireshark on
the sniffer before booting the machine in question.
I've learned to trust the bits on the wire. At least until I have
something to suggest that they are corrupted.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
9:33 a.m.
Yes SMIT is an AIX system management utility first introduced with AIX
for RS/6000 Ver 3, start with HPUX 10 HP did however include Logical
Volume Manager (LVM) which was also introduced in AIX 3.0
Paul.
On 2019-05-27 1:23 p.m., Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 5/27/19 3:05 AM, Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote:
HPUX 8 has smit, doesn't it ?
Do you mean "sam"?
I thought "smit(ty)" was AIX's counterpart to HP-UX's "sam".
5:46 p.m.
HPUX 8 has smit, doesn't it ?
Do you mean "sam"?
I thought "smit(ty)" was AIX's counterpart to HP-UX's "sam".
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