At 06:40 PM 9/4/97 -0400, I wrote: Yes, I'm quoting myself... Around my house, it's the only way I'm assured a halfway intellegent conversation..... ;^> Yes, and I forgot to mention that they are CMOS parts, as well. The look to be standard, _except_ they are all inserted into a special carrier-like thingamabob that made it easy to insert/remove the ROM packages and has a .1 or .01 microFarad capacitor soldered betwen Vcc and ground on each chip... I guess that's why they're heavier than normal. Uh, and did I mention that there's _-_-Lots-_-_ of them!?!?!?!? You could desolder the cap, straighen the pins and remove the plastic carrier and voila! you have a chip that will directly plug into an e-prom burner (provided it handles it...) and Bammo! You can upgrade whatever you want. Remember I mentioned this URL: Well, I just fired off an e-mail to the lady that's in command of the licensing and re-printing of articles in Byte, to see if she'd give permission to reproduce this article on the Web. I'll wait and see if I get any response. Barring that, does anyone out there in ClassicLand have that issue of Byte? At the very least, you could educate us on just what it had, and maybe scan in a picture if you have access to a scanner... (or even, if someone has an extra issue of that one, I'd be willing to trade something for it). Anyway, the closest I have in my collection is March 1981, so that won't quite do. Just a reminder to anyone who wants some... they're cheap! Thanks, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed, Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* zmerch(a)northernway.net | be your first career choice.