21 Mar
2023
21 Mar
'23
4:38 a.m.
Can anyone point me to the source paper tapes for the classic Paper Tape Software
programmes packages ?
The IOX, ODT, FPMP and loader/dumper source paper tapes [e.g. DEC-11-XIOXA-A-PA1 & 2]
are on bit savers, but those for the assemblers / linkers seem not to be.
That the assembler / linker sources were distributed is attested by the 1970's
software catalogs; from their evident rarity I infer purchases were uncommon.
While any archive of -PA tapes is of interest, those I'm particularly seeking are:
- DEC-11-UPLAA-A-PA1 to 12 PAL-11A (8k) (V007A) Source PTs [~= ASXA]
- DEC-11-ASPA-PA1 to 11 PAL-11A (4k) (V002A) Source PTs [~= ASPA]
- DEC-11-XIXLA-A-PA1 & 2 IOX LPT (V004A) Source PTs
- DEC-11ULKSA-A-PA1 to 6 Link11S (V002A) Source PTs
- also PAL11S sources, however they are not listed in the catalogs
Equally, listings would be of value, e.g.:
- DEC-11-ASPA-LA PAL-11A (V002A) (4k) Listing
Electronic copies are all I require, although if someone has a cupboard full of
untranscribed physical paper tapes I could oblige.
Yours in anticipation of being able to, hopefully, add the EIS instructions to
PAL-11A's repertoire.
Martin
21 Mar
21 Mar
6:37 a.m.
A while ago there was a reference to PDP-10 DECtape images (on Bitsavers?) from that era.
I remember it has early RSTS sources on it. It may have what you're looking for as
well. You'd want to look for files with the .P11 extension because they were fed to
the MACX11 cross-assembler. (I think the sources for that cross-assembler are also on one
of those tapes. Not those for MIMIC, unfortunately.)
paul
On Mar 21, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Martin Bishop via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Can anyone point me to the source paper tapes for the classic Paper Tape Software
programmes packages ?
The IOX, ODT, FPMP and loader/dumper source paper tapes [e.g. DEC-11-XIOXA-A-PA1 & 2]
are on bit savers, but those for the assemblers / linkers seem not to be.
That the assembler / linker sources were distributed is attested by the 1970's
software catalogs; from their evident rarity I infer purchases were uncommon.
While any archive of -PA tapes is of interest, those I'm particularly seeking are:
- DEC-11-UPLAA-A-PA1 to 12 PAL-11A (8k) (V007A) Source PTs [~= ASXA]
- DEC-11-ASPA-PA1 to 11 PAL-11A (4k) (V002A) Source PTs [~= ASPA]
- DEC-11-XIXLA-A-PA1 & 2 IOX LPT (V004A) Source PTs
- DEC-11ULKSA-A-PA1 to 6 Link11S (V002A) Source PTs
- also PAL11S sources, however they are not listed in the catalogs
Equally, listings would be of value, e.g.:
- DEC-11-ASPA-LA PAL-11A (V002A) (4k) Listing
Electronic copies are all I require, although if someone has a cupboard full of
untranscribed physical paper tapes I could oblige.
Yours in anticipation of being able to, hopefully, add the EIS instructions to
PAL-11A's repertoire.
Martin
6:46 a.m.
search for PDPGUI software. This is a good place to start to look for
papertapes.
Bill
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:39 AM Martin Bishop via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Can anyone point me to the source paper tapes for the
classic Paper Tape
Software programmes packages ?
The IOX, ODT, FPMP and loader/dumper source paper tapes [e.g.
DEC-11-XIOXA-A-PA1 & 2] are on bit savers, but those for the assemblers /
linkers seem not to be.
That the assembler / linker sources were distributed is attested by the
1970's software catalogs; from their evident rarity I infer purchases were
uncommon.
While any archive of -PA tapes is of interest, those I'm particularly
seeking are:
- DEC-11-UPLAA-A-PA1 to 12 PAL-11A (8k) (V007A) Source PTs [~= ASXA]
- DEC-11-ASPA-PA1 to 11 PAL-11A (4k) (V002A) Source PTs [~= ASPA]
- DEC-11-XIXLA-A-PA1 & 2 IOX LPT (V004A) Source PTs
- DEC-11ULKSA-A-PA1 to 6 Link11S (V002A) Source PTs
- also PAL11S sources, however they are not listed in the catalogs
Equally, listings would be of value, e.g.:
- DEC-11-ASPA-LA PAL-11A (V002A) (4k) Listing
Electronic copies are all I require, although if someone has a cupboard
full of untranscribed physical paper tapes I could oblige.
Yours in anticipation of being able to, hopefully, add the EIS
instructions to PAL-11A's repertoire.
Martin
24 Mar
24 Mar
1:02 p.m.
Thank you for the suggestion http://retrocmp.com/tools/pdp11gui
My usual first stop for program sources and images is
http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/mixed_media/ and the more obvious
http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/
Other repositories I'm acquaint with include:
http://iamvirtual.ca/PDP-11/PTS-11/PTS-11.htm
https://www.pcjs.org/software/dec/pdp11/tapes/
http://pdp-11.trailing-edge.com/www/freewareFAQ.html
https://www.pdp-11.nl/
https://ak6dn.github.io/PDP-11/
If there are other places I should look, my ears and eyes are open : esp for PDP-11 native
assembler source code
Martin
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From: Bill Degnan via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
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Subject: [cctalk] Re: Wanted PDP-11 Paper Tape Software Source Tape Images
search for PDPGUI software. This is a good place to start to look for papertapes.
Bill
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:39 AM Martin Bishop via cctalk < cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Can anyone point me to the source paper tapes for the
classic Paper
Tape Software programmes packages ?
The IOX, ODT, FPMP and loader/dumper source paper tapes [e.g.
DEC-11-XIOXA-A-PA1 & 2] are on bit savers, but those for the
assemblers / linkers seem not to be.
That the assembler / linker sources were distributed is attested by
the 1970's software catalogs; from their evident rarity I infer
purchases were uncommon.
While any archive of -PA tapes is of interest, those I'm particularly
seeking are:
- DEC-11-UPLAA-A-PA1 to 12 PAL-11A (8k) (V007A) Source PTs [~= ASXA]
- DEC-11-ASPA-PA1 to 11 PAL-11A (4k) (V002A) Source PTs [~= ASPA]
- DEC-11-XIXLA-A-PA1 & 2 IOX LPT (V004A) Source PTs
- DEC-11ULKSA-A-PA1 to 6 Link11S (V002A) Source PTs
- also PAL11S sources, however they are not listed in the catalogs
Equally, listings would be of value, e.g.:
- DEC-11-ASPA-LA PAL-11A (V002A) (4k) Listing
Electronic copies are all I require, although if someone has a
cupboard full of untranscribed physical paper tapes I could oblige.
Yours in anticipation of being able to, hopefully, add the EIS
instructions to PAL-11A's repertoire.
Martin
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