[cctalk] Re: The Mac at 40

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 5:29 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk < cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; wrote: I can't believe people still don't have a solid grasp of these things after People likely don't have the solid grasp you feel they should because it's probably not that important to them. Hence some of the myth's live on. No-one mentioned "steal"ing in this thread AFAICT until now so I assume you're talking in the general population sense rather than members of this list. Also it's pretty subjective what "steal" means. Hertzfeld when asked took a very literal view "literally no code was taken, I mean not a single line of code". By that definition I doubt Microsoft took a line of code from Apple either but it didn't stop Apple suing them for copyright infringement :-) I think Atkinson is on record as saying the Goldberg demo was just a confirmation (for him) that a more graphical approach was the way forward. I believe until then the Lisa project had been text based. I would not be the slightest bit surprised to find out that Atkinson had already seen demo's of Smalltalk 76 or 78. I get the impression PARC people smuggled outsiders in late at night to see what they were working on.. It really was all about getting Jobs on the same page.